Christina Gao- what does she have to do to be a factor

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  1. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

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    This is the 3rd straight year Christina Gao has finished 5th at Nationals. While after a difficult season that actually might have served as a personal victory of sorts for her, one has to wonder what she has to do to ever truly break into the U.S elite or be in contention for the World team. She is still young, talented, and hard working. However Agnes Zawadzki has left her in her dust at the moment, and is clearly seen as more of a future hopeful, while Gracie Gold is now emerging. That is not to mention all the reasonably young skaters still going strong like Wagner, Zhang, and Nagasu (well not so much this year, lol), and the strong vets who the U.S are still very high on like Czisny. It would seem if she doesnt make a move soon she is in danger of getting lost in the shuffle. What does she need to do in order to breakthrough.
     
  2. Sylvia

    Sylvia Bring on the JGP & Sr B comps!

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    I think first she has to decide if she will go to Harvard next year or defer for one year.
     
  3. Marco

    Marco Missing Ziggy

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    Listen to the music

    Take ballet

    Find music that she can skate to, not boring ones or ones that overwhelm her
     
  4. skfan

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    i'd say quit hunching over, but it's never affected the scores of a number of skaters :)
     
  5. fan

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    re-train technique on the double axel.
     
  6. liv

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    Well, I'd never seen her skate before last night and i have to say I found her far more interesting and full of potential than Agnes. Her 3-3 combo was amazing. I really enjoyed her skating and she stood out to me compared to most of the other girls.

    They said she'd grown, had injuries and had been sick, so I'm guessing those might be factors? You guys up on the American ladies' scene would know that better than I would.
     
  7. pinky166

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    Consistently deliver performances with the 3-3 in both programs and 7 triples in the FS.

    Get her 2a consistent.

    Project to the audience more.

    Improve her spins and flexibility.

    I think Christina can be a factor but I think for her hitting the 3-3 and delivering 7 triple LPs are going to be key, sort of like with Rachael, she could compete with the top but she needed everything, whereas someone like Alissa, Carolina, etc can afford mistakes and easier programs without being buried. Her jumps are very big and garner +GOE though, and she has a nice body line, so these are two advantages she has over Rachael, but they share similar weaknesses of not great spin or spiral positions. I think she could have a breakout season next season potentially if she can stay healthy and really address her weaknesses. She is similar to Yuna in many ways and we saw Yuna become a more well rounded skater as she matured.
     
  8. edonice

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    Christina has a light quality, skates with speed, and has gorgeous jumps. But she's a little noodly; she doesn't always look like she's in control of her limbs. She looks much more in control now than she did during the Grand Prix (coming off of an injury and what looked like a growth spurt), but she could still use some serious ballet lessons to get a stronger sense of line and control.
     
  9. Loves_Shizuka

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    I've just watched her LP and, though she is still a little hunched and scratchy, I see definite signs of improvement. She's not quite as awkward and gangly as before. Now I think she needs to straighten-up (if possible) and skate bigger. She also needs to extend her legs and knees to improve her line, and project. In other words, get some classical training.
     
  10. RumbleFish

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    Find a personality.
     
  11. Stephanie

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    My personal opinion is that she should go next year to avoid dealing with such a major lifestyle and coaching change in the Olympic year. I think this way she could also take the Olympic year off if she wanted to.

    I think Mark Mitchell and Peter Johansson could really help her basics, too.
     
  12. isamelia

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    I also think Christina should go this fall. Emily Hughes took time off during the heavy competition period. I agree with all points on getting acclimated to her new coaching and SC of Boston's new facility.
     
  13. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

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    I was curious to see your response especialy as I know you are a big fan of hers. I think that is a great assessment.

    One big advantage Rachael had is she was coming up at an all time low point for U.S Senior women (remember the 2008 Worlds) where their big star Meissner could barely land 1 triple per program, Emily Hughes was not even skating and basically an early flameout, Czisny was essentialy nowhere at the time, and Bebe Liang was an established journeywomen. This allowed her to establish herself quickly and entrench a reputation as a very consistent and solid skater which would hold her up in the coming years even as new and more talented skaters emerged, until her consistency and skating fell off in the last year or two. Gao is coming up at a time the U.S women are building and there are good teenage veterans, a popular and well liked 20 something veteran, and impressive newcomers all establishing themselves, so it isnt nearly as easy. Of course she has no control of that though, she can only worry about herself and what she needs.
     
  14. Jammers

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    I don't see anything from that Christina that stands out right now. She's one of the few American girls to do a 3-3 but her spins are meh and she doesn't really seem to have a personality yet.
     
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  15. victoriaheidi

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    Dude, Christina got into Harvard? Yay for her! That's hugely exciting, but how did I miss the announcement?
     
  16. jenny12

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    They mentioned it on the NBC broadcast and also that she got a perfect score on the math section of the SAT. Wow!
     
  17. smarts1

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    Did anyone else notice she jumping way up close to the boards? Even moreso than any other skater in the event?

    Other than that, she needs to find a way to make her skating less dry. Her skating skills are in dire need of improvement. When I first saw her, I thought her spins were probably the worst of any senior lady to date (besides her back open sit spin). I don't know. She's just missing that "it" factor for me besides that jumping.
     
  18. jlai

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    SAT Math is not that hard. my elder sibling got 800 twice before scores were recentered. Even I the mediocre Math student scored well
     
  19. UMBS Go Blue

    UMBS Go Blue KWEEN 2016! YES WE KWAN!

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    I got a perfect 800 on the math section of the SAT too. :encore:

    But, really, checking into this thread wondering what was up with Christina and Harvard (or any other school). She has until May 1 to decide whether to attend Harvard, so given the lack of news so far, we'll be speculating yet. :watch:
     
  20. Dilng

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    The above plus stop hunching over -- she really needs help in everything.
     
  21. victoriaheidi

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    Psh, speak for yourself! I got a 650. That was the absolute best I could do. No way I could get it over 700. I did score a perfect 800 on the writing, though.
     
  22. jlai

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    800 on writing, now that's a score I'm envious of. :)
     
  23. love_skate2011

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    how to become a factor ? easy

    STOP Packaging her into a Mini Yuna because she is NOT.
    hope Orser is listening !
     
  24. Nomad

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    It would help if she showed some personality. Maybe then I'd remember a performance. :shuffle:
     
  25. fan

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    she is a very, very shy, quiet girl. i can't imagine performing is easy for her. she's working every day with tracy wilson on the performance quality, on expression, and she's a very hard worker. I think she knows what she needs to do - just her personality prevents her from projecting more than she currently does.
     
  26. RD

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    Folks (particularly us American fans) seem to be ultra-quick in counting someone out/looking to the next talent if a particular promising skater happens to have a rough season. We have short memories. The Czisny case study and now the Zhang case study is showing that it IS possible to re-emerge and contend once again after being down & out.

    The message here is that Gao is still quite young, and the door isn't closed or even closing on her yet. That said, she has to continue to show improvement if she wants to contend. I think she's on the right track- she's finally starting to perform a bit more and isn't as shy as she used to be. Still has a ways to go, however. She has the jumps- if she can get them consistent, that will definitely play in her favor.
     
  27. Sylvia

    Sylvia Bring on the JGP & Sr B comps!

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    I think Christina has been/is making gradual improvements in the areas of expression, spins, and posture -- here's her FS from Nationals: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ldlLf_CHZc

    However, Tango is not the musical style I envision for her... maybe something more playful and quirky next season would bring out her personality more effectively in her skating performance?

    Best wishes to her at Junior Worlds this week! :)
     
  28. RD

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    Playful/quirky I don't see her pulling off right now. I still think she holds back a bit too much to truly sell such a program the way it would need to be sold to be effective.
     
  29. rhumba

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    She prob. will take one year off from school? She has major issue with her posture, her long arms and legs make it look more awkward. She has improved but still a major propblem. Maybe more ballet and dance classes will help. Please, no more tango music for her.
     
  30. kwanatic

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    I think Christina will be a late bloomer. She's still a bit awkward looking with her long arms and legs...she doesn't seem to have full control over them yet. I think ballet would help to improve her lines, posture and control, and she needs to work on her flexibility as well. Her jumps (sans the 2a) are very solid: good speed, good height, good coverage. She just needs to work on her packaging in terms of choreography and music. Christina doesn't really have a style yet. She'll have to continue to experiment to see what she comes up with and what works.

    I think she has a solid foundation to work with. None of her problems are so major that she needs a complete overhaul. She was fighting back from injuries this season so she was less than stellar, but her LP at nationals was really great. It's going to take improvements in her presentation, style and maturity to really push her into that next level of skaters but I wouldn't pull the curtain on her yet. She hasn't tapped into a 1/4th of her potential as a skater and performer...