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  1. jlai

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    Chinese fed's Olympic selection criteria:
    中国花滑队索契冬奥选拔办法公布:庞清/佟健直通
    http://sports.sina.com.cn/o/2013-08-09/09366713776.shtml
    According to this, P/T will go to Sochi for sure because prior medalists are sure ins.

    庞清/佟健:短节目编排出问题 受制伤病进度滞后
    http://sports.sina.com.cn/o/2013-08-06/12026708480.shtml
    This article is about P/T. Some discussions about issues with the sp.
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    Wow, this is amazing! It says they will take 0.7*[highest international SP+LP score] + 0.3*[highest domestic SP+LP score], to decide whom to send. That means Han Yan might get to go instead of Nan Song, and maybe S/H instead of P/Z, if they do really well in their GP competitions! I was despairing for them, because Song and P/Z seem to have much stronger political backings. The international competitions that count are Nebelhorn, GP's and GPF, and Universiade.
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  3. jlai

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    From the article it seems JGPs are counted too (as well as Asian Games or Asian Cup or something), (I'm not always very good at telling the names of the comps based on what is said in Chinese.)

    According to the article, this is gonna be open, fair and just.
    There are five tiebreakers: (See if I can translate correctly)
    If scores are the same, then the first tiebreaker goes to LP score of the skater's highest scoring international event. Then the next tiebreaker is the short program score. Then the next tiebreaker is the lp score of the skater's highest scoring national event; then the next tiebreaker is the sp score of the skater's highest scoring national event; then if there's still a tiebreaker they are going to draw for the spot :eek: (
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    Awww.. adorable article. So their baby daughter 'Snow II'already developed musicality inside the womb, she is way ahead this one. Good to know she is going to be a September baby just like Asia's current leading ladies Yuna and Mao, ontop of who her parents is to the future legacy of Chinese figure skating, maybe just maybe in 16-20 years, China can have another great!?
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    Whee, baby news! Congratulations!
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    :cheer2:
    Wheeee!! Baby Shen/Zhao :) :)
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    Congratulations to Shen & Zhao!!!
  12. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    I started a separate news and congratulations thread in GSD: Shen/Zhao are proud parents of a daughter!

    Would someone like to translate/summarize any news or results from the current national "Grand Prix" competition? http://chnfs.org/
    There are videos on youku.com of Han Yan, Zijun Li, Nan Song, Sui/Han, etc. if someone wants to link them here.

    ETA tweets from Misha Ge who watched the Men's FS:

    "While ago back from Chinese National Grand Prix of FS . Mens Podium : 1.Nan Song , 2. Bo YanJin [Boyang Jin], 3 Han Yan .

    Han Yan skated with few mistakes(around 227),Great Skate for little JR Jumper-Talent Bo Yanjin with 4T ,4S,clean program 235 points 2nd.

    I'm happy for Nan Song, tough skate but he pull off clean program today.He was on recovery these few month, great to see him back. 237p, 1st"
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  13. joeperryfan

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    Do you have a link to the results of the chinese GP, Sylvia? I can't find it.
  14. DORISPULASKI

    DORISPULASKI Watching submarine races

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    And how did the pairs do?
  15. jlai

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    according to http://sports.sina.com.cn/o/2013-09-06/02196764576.shtml and http://sports.sina.com.cn/o/2013-09-07/04426767248.shtml
    Zhang/Cheng first 116.05 in LP 184.62 total
    Jin/Yu 111.85 LP and total 175.54
    Wang/Wang 163.79

    Men:
    Song Nan 157.05 LP 237.75 total
    Jin 159.51 235.75
    Yan Han 149.05 231.26

    Jr men:
    First 郝言
    second 臧文博
    third 李唐续

    Ladies:
    Zhang Kexin 106.17 164.26
    Zhao 赵子荃 96.15 140.57
    Li coming back from injury 86.69 137.31

    Jr ladies
    First 李香凝
    second 李佳殷
    third 赵明路。

    Dance:
    Huang/Zheng 78.72,138.28
    Yu/Wang 74.72, 122.31
    Zhang/Wu 张伊伊/吴楠 70.92 117.1
    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjA1MTA2MDcy.html

    Links to programs on the right at http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjA1MTA2MDcy.html
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  16. rosewood

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    Thank you very much for the information about National Grand Prix, jlai.:respec:

    Kexin Zhang SP
    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjA1NTIyMzQ0.html
    Kexin Zhang FS
    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjA1OTQzMDI0.html

    Zijun Li SP
    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjA1NTY1Mjg4.html
    Zijun Li FS
    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjA1OTQzODY0.html

    Nan Song SP 
    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjA1NTQ0ODQ0.html
    Nan Song FS 
    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjA2MDAzNTc2.html

    Boyang Jin SP
    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjA1NTcxNTQw.html
    Boyang Jin FS
    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjA2MDEyNTcy.html

    Han Yan SP
    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjA1NTM2MDAw.html
    Han Yan FS 
    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjA1OTk2MTUy.html


    Kexin was almost stopping her skating in the second half of her FS. I feel so sorry that she looks injured badly. Do you have any information about her injury, jlai? Hoping her quick and full recovery! I LOVE her big jumps. I was so happy to see she won silver medal at Asian Open this summer! Hoping she'll do well in GPS, too.:cheer2:
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  17. Marco

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    The men's event is certainly exciting. Song Nan produced decent programs which actually made him look mature and elegant instead of boring. Jumps were confident.

    But Jin Boyang was wonderful. Looks ready to rule Juniors. Is he eligible for Sochi? If Yan Han doesn't put his act together, this little kid can surpass him real quick even after Song Nan retires after this season.
  18. VarBar

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    I really liked Han Yan's SP step sequence but I think the whole program is quite enjoyable to watch. Good to see Han skating to better choreographies than in previous years.

    Thanks for all the video links, rosewood.:)
  19. jlai

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    The only thing I read was this
    http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2556732260?see_lz=1
    张可欣在上赛季离开赛场大半年再重新回归后虽然跳跃难度和稳定性都恢复得不错,但是跳跃存周问题开始严重起来,旋转步伐也屡次定级不理想
    I am bad at translating tech details. I think it's saying she's recovering well but she has trouble with some jumps and twizzles?

    Guan Jin Lin and Geng BinGwa still injured

    ETA: more video links at http://www.youku.com/v_showlist/t2c98g2361.html

    Found it. According to one of the articles, Zhang had a cramp in the second half of her program
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  20. Sedge

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    ..plus Kexin Zhang and Zijun Li ?

    That is all 4 ladies injured....not a good start to Olympic season!
  21. Jun Y

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    Rough translation: Kexin Zhang returned after being away from competitions for most of last season. Although her jumps and consistency have largely recovered, an issue with underrotation in jumps has emerged, and her spins and step sequences got low levels.

    赵子荃=Zhao Ziquan. She is on JGP last year and this year.
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  22. jlai

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    Thx, Jun Y. I was confused because it says "spin steps" but without a comma between the two, I took it to mean twizzle.
    (Should not expect better punctuation from e-reporting :) )
    Now I also know what 存周 and 定级 mean (rotation and levels)!

    eta: I'll also edit my post to add the name translations (please check to see if I mix up Z and ZH and such) :)

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  23. Jun Y

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    All the surnames are correct! :) Except Zhang Hao's partner's last name is Peng, first name Cheng. 彭程。

    IIRC, Li Xiangning is also on JGP this season.

    存=save, 周=revolutions/rotations. So 存周 = underrotation.
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    Yeah, that's right. I forgot because 程 (Cheng) can also be a last name. :eek:
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    Thank you for your kindness, jlai. :):) A cramp sounds not to be a serious injury. Well it's a bad but still a good information about her!

    BinGwa:wuzrobbed Hoping her full recovery. BTW I saw her photo on weibo recently. Glad to see her smiling with Kexin and a few other skaters at the rink in it. :cheer2:

    Thanks a lot for the translation, Jun Y. Yeah, her jumps are big but she has the underrotation issue. But she's still recovering from her injury. Hoping she's not damaged badly in this competion and recovers fully before GPS.:cheer:

    It's funny. 存=exist in Japanese. So Japanese speaking people would guess 存周 = rotated. Chinese characters came from China to Japan long ago and then many of them changed their meanings in each country to some extent. I sometimes visit Chinese news sites to see skating news but it's almost impossible to understand the content even with Google translator. So your translation is so helpful for me. Thanks again, Jun Y.:)
  26. jjane45

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    New face representing China on the JGP circuit: Christina Rae YAN from Canada...
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    Peng/Zhang look really good! So surprised that Peng catches up so quickly. They should do really well this season if the judges pay attention to them. Like Zijun Li's programs too.
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    I hope so. Hao Zhang is such a trouper for going from Olympic silver medalist to starting all over from scratch with a new partner!
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    I really liked their SP! Is there a video of their FS out there?
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    Sorry, I missed this. Where is the link of their short programme?
    thankss
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  34. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    His programs from the Chinese National Grand Prix competition are now on youtube - re-posting from the Han YAN fan thread in the Trash Can:
    SP: Minor Waltz from Doubles Jeux (Laurent Korcia) and Viper's Drag
    LP: Hannibal soundtrack - Gourmet Valse Tartare" mixed with "The Blue Danube" from Strauss II
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    Wow a Cannibal themed free-skate :inavoid:

    ;)
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    Full results should look like this (link: http://chnfs.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Results_2013-2014_NC_GP.pdf )

    Pairs
    1 Peng Cheng / Zhang Hao 184.62 11
    2 Yu Xiaoyu / Jin Yang 175.54 32
    3 Wang Xuehan / Wang Lei 163.79 43
    4 Sui Wenjing / Han Cong 161.79 24
    5 Zhang Mingyang / Xie Zhong 137.10 65
    6 Chen Xiaoxue / Guo Wenxiong 128.57 57
    7 Sui Jiaying / Yang Yongchao 115.30 86
    WD Wang Wenting / Zhang Yan 40.56 7

    Men
    1 Song Nan 237.75 22
    2 Jin Boyang 235.75 31
    3 Yan Han 231.26 13
    4 Wang Yi 190.01 44
    5 Liu Jiaxing 176.58 56
    6 Zhang He 169.52 85
    7 Guan Yuhang 164.84 67
    8 Jia Fengbo 161.53 78
    9 Xu Zuoren 152.60 99
    10 Teng Zijing 133.87 1011
    11 Kang Ziyu 133.27 1110

    Ice Dancing
    1 Huang Xintong / Zheng Xun 133.28 11
    2 Yu Xiaoyang / Wang Chen 122.31 22
    3 Zhang Yiyi / Wu Nan 117.10 33
    4 Wang Shiyue / Liu Xinyu 102.02 44
    5 Zhao Yue / Liu Chang 95.83 56
    6 Chen Hong / Zhao Yan 92.43 67
    7 Song Linshu / Liu Yu 89.06 85
    8 Cong Yue / Sun Zhuoming 88.97 78
    9 Zou Bingxin / Wang Meng 82.38 99
    10 Li Xibei / Xiang Guangyao 78.12 1010
    11 Sun Wenqian / Wang Kuo 74.92 1111
    12 Wang Xiaotong / Zhao Kaige 72.16 1213
    13 Gao Qianyue / Zhang Yu 71.48 1312
    14 Yai Lulu / Wu Yulei 54.68 1414
    15 Liu Hanmiao / Jin Yuanshi 47.92 1515

    Ladies singles
    1 Zhang Kexin 164.28 11
    2 Zhao Ziquan 140.57 32
    3 Li Zijun 137.31 24
    4 Guo Xiaowen 131.77 43
    5 Jiao Yunya 112.32 55
    6 Wang Jialei 107.60 66
    7 Zheng Lu 93.33 79
    8 92.60 107 Xiao Yan Fang
    9 Zhu Qiuying 92.08 98
    10 Kun Qian 89.00 811
    11 Zhang Ying 84.98 1210
    12 Gao Yunfeng 75.72 1112
    13 Xu Xiaoyi 69.79 1313

    Junior Men
    1 HAO Yan 153.03 12
    2 Zang Wenbo 146.63 41
    3 Teng Zijing 141.51 23
    4 Lu Yunda 134.75 34
    5 Wang Jinze 123.95 55
    6 Jia Ziqi 121.59 66
    7 Liu Runqi 116.46 99
    8 Yu Lingxiao 116.09 117
    9 Cui Hongming 114.96 128
    10 Li Zeen 113.32 1010
    11 Li Yuheng 110.92 712
    12 Li Zaixu 106.96 813
    13 Zhu Lei 100.25 1711
    14 Gao Zijian 99.93 1315
    15 Rong Qinglong 96.96 1614
    16 Guo Zhunzhi 91.95 1416
    17 Meng Bolin 89.70 1517

    Junior Ladies
    1 Li Hongning 132.47 11
    2 Li Jiayin 113.00 22
    3 Zhao Minglu 105.76 33
    4 Li Xiaoxue 95.44 44
    5 Guo Yuzhu 89.49 65
    6 Ren Junffei 88.74 56
    7 Li Ruoxi 83.43 79
    8 Du Ketong 82.31 98
    9 Zhao Ying 80.73 137
    10 Sun Tongqi 80.61 10 10
    11 Liu Yuqing 78.05 811
    12 Li Yutong 73.67 1112
    13 Yu Tinghui 70.19 1413
    14 Kong Fanxuan 64.30 1214
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    oh my, what's with zijun li? did i miss some injury or just a totally blackout?
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    She was injured most of the summer and hasn't gotten a chance to run through her new programs much because of it.
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    Wow. Fascinating to see SO MANY ice dance teams on the event results just posted. From the scores, obviously, so many of them are not up to par for competing at an international level though. In the past, several of the top teams have sought out help (choreographically, coaching) from top international coaches like Natalia Linunchuk (sp?). I wonder whether there will be an effort to push some of the younger teams out to coaching situations outside of China, where there is not history of success in the sport, in the lead up to the next Olympics, which will be in Asia.