CBC's "Battle of the Blades" is coming back!

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  1. sequins

    sequins New Member

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    Sad about Oksana and Vlad as well, but I agree that performance this week was lacking. As soon a they said M-F and Mat were skating to Psy I knew it was over. Loved that performance as well as Violetta & Jason and Sinead & Grant, despite his fall he just looks like he's so in to this and really trying hard, love to see that. Really enjoyed Amanda and Scott too. Shae and Anson were a bit disappointing, the judges are right when they say Shae over shadows Anson, he needs to step it up cause I really want Shae to win.
  2. liv

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    Thought Oksana and Vlad were unfairly booted. I remember hearing the comments/attitude of the judges towards them from the beginning of the season and knew they would not last long. As soon as I saw it was Marie-France in the skate off I knew Oksana would go, without even seeing the final skate.

    Can I say I really dislike jaime as a judge? I only watch the skating and then the marks, I mute the comments.
  3. rvi5

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    Agree.

    Last week they landed a single axel throw, but this week it appeared to be a single flip throw which IMO came across as less impressive. They did add the 1/2 twist, but that was overshadowed by Amanda and Scott's earlier twist which the judges had raved over. Their performance was also not as upbeat/energetic as many of the other couples, which may have had a negative impact. As Jaime mentioned, they were out of sync (during their side-by-side twirling), and overall (since the onset of BOTB) Vlad appears to be less expressive than most of the other hockey players by comparison. Many of the other hockey players seem to be more into the performance aspects. Vlad tends to be more formal.

    Anson has his work cut out for him. Jamie mentions he needs to appear bigger. Perhaps more than the other hockey players, considering his partner is Shae.

    I was surprised Marie-France and Mathieu were in the bottom two. They were scored at 17.0 by the end of last weeks show (3rd from the top). I guess many voters were trying to save Jessica/Brian who were at the bottom ...anything can happen.


    P.S. Did anyone spot Piper & Paul in the audience?

    ETA: Near the start of Amanda & Scott's performance, he is on his knees while lifting Amanda above his head, then throws her backward. The next camera angle shows them rising to begin their side-by-side in-line step sequence. If you watch the first row of the audience between Amanda and Scott, you will see Piper and Paul.
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  4. Alvyne

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    Facebook pages:

    Marie-France and Mathieu: https://www.facebook.com/DubreuilDandenaultBOTB
    Amanda and Scott: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Team...e-Blades/418658901589421?directed_target_id=0

    I also found some performances from week 2 and 3, but it looks like nobody is posting the show in its entirity.

    Violetta and Jason 2nd routine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idZNUhTg1-I&feature=c4-overview&list=UUDUkwlA3B_7lszeRbSuYM8w

    Oksana and Vladimir 2nd routine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b08_kJCf8Wk&feature=c4-overview&list=UUwPaCfLVcgy7-NxIJ850apQ
    Oksana and Vladimir 3rd and last routine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv4vkcGErSk&list=FLq4UzfmEB0jZg31SCkSFV2g

    Amanda and Scott 2nd routine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJbsDzbATHo
    Amanda and Scott 3rd routine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXn1CW6NDA8
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  5. Andora

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    Sinead & Grant are amazing. Is he the only one doing back cross overs? Or is it just that his look the best, and come closest to being in sync with his partner? Plus he did a spread eagle, plus, plus, plus. I hope they go far! Amanda Evora is also a revelation with her partner! I don't mind being wrong about her being on the show. :)

    Marie France is getting a little bit boring, though. :shuffle: I just have ridiculous expectations I think.

    Really digging the show this year, and am sad to lose Oksana and Vladimir. He brought the sexy.
  6. rvi5

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    The problem with Oksana and Vladimir was their routines tending to be too similar ie. formal figure skating. Although better appreciated by avid Figure Skating fans, it is lost on Hockey and Casual FS fans. That group is typically more interested in big tricks and entertaining fun routines. Big tricks for Oksana would be limited by what Vlad can safely perform. Also, "been there, done that" by other couples may negate the wow factor of what Oksana/Vlad may perform. A perfect example of that situation is Amanda and Scott's twist overshadowing Oksana and Vlad's.

    Unfortunately both Vlad and Oksana have somewhat formal personalities, which limits their range of potential performances. I can't imagine either stepping out of the "formal" box and doing the Gangnam. I think that may be what Kurt meant when he said they had the same theme for the three competition nights, and when he indicated they had reached a plateau. Oksana and Vlad had little chance against Marie-France and Mathieu's more crowd pleasing foot-tapping entertainment oriented Psy Gangnam routine.
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  7. AragornElessar

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    First off...Jamie wasn't the only one raving about Amanda and Scott's twist, as I nearly fell out of my chair when I saw that thing. Not only was it National Level, but did anyone else notice Amanda's arms were up the entire time during it and she didn't take Scott's hand again until the exit. For a team made up only a couple of months ago and the man not having any Figure Skating experience before this...Just...WOW!!!

    Then came along Sinead and Grant and kudos to Grant for wearing the kilt. Yes, we all know for a Scottish themed program it's the proper costume, but there are still many out there sadly who only saw "a male figure skater in a skirt and..." I said back in the day John wearing the kilt for their Scottish OD was one of the bravest things I've seen a male skater wear out there. He's now got Grant in the same category IMHO.

    Then came that footwork and I literally gasped out loud at what Sinead had Grant doing footwork wise. That was sooo great and then...Damn toe picks. Regardless, they and Violetta and Jason are the front runners in this house going into this week. Both teams have been both amazing and really entertaining to watch too.

    As sad as I was to see Oksana and Vlad go, Kurt was right, they had plateaued as far as what they could and through no fault of their own either. W/all of the various plates, screws and other Medical Metal keeping the respective body parts together after the surgical repairs done to them, Vlad was going to be pretty restricted w/what he was capable of doing to begin w/and I think they ended up going as far in this as they were going to go sadly. I really liked him too and it was lovely to see Oksana back out there as well. Just...Sigh. :(

    I have a bad feeling Jessica and Brian will be next to go. As a fellow Sudbarian, I *hate* saying that, but I also can see they aren't at the same level as the others. I also wish Brian was w/someone else for a partner, as all the issues we've hashed over the years when it comes to Jessica and her ability, and/or lack of, to show more than one kind of emotion out there is even more obvious now IMO.

    I hope I'm wrong, but don't think I am. We'll see Sunday night.
  8. rvi5

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    They have all performed backward crossovers in one or more of the episodes so far. Some of the Hockey players may have had an advantage in that area because they are defensemen who are accustomed to skating backwards (although not necessarily crossovers). eg. Jason Strudwick (Violetta's partner), Mathieu Dandenault (Marie-France's partner), and Vladimir Malakhov (Oksana's partner).
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  9. rvi5

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    That is my feeling also. However, in the previous week the judges had them at the bottom with Oksana/Vlad. Yet voters saved them, and pushed Marie-France/Mathieu into the bottom two instead. So, who knows what may happen. If two of the top teams get pushed into the bottom two instead, perhaps the judges may be forced to use that "Save".


    P.S. Although I don't live there now, I was born and raised in Sudbury also.
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  10. Alvyne

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    Maybe it's due the fact that they allowed international voting last week (don't know about this week, nobody mentioned it)? Brian now lives in Scottsdale, Arizona, and he seems to have a strong following both in Sudbury and in Scottsdale. I don't reallly understand why the producers are allowing international votes, I don't think it's fair that people that can't watch the show can influence on the outcome.

    Also, Jessica and Brian had a fall, which might have prompted their fans to vote more, whereas people might have asusmed that MF and Mathieu would be safe because they had a good skate and good marks. I agree that based on their overall skating and performance ability, Jessica and Brian should be next to go.

    In season 3, they used the save on the third performance show (to save Anabelle and Brad, who were elimated the following week), so there is a good chance they will use it this week.
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  11. rvi5

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    Perhaps with the new voting structure, there were fewer people willing to jump through hoops to get votes. Hence they needed to expand the voting population to compensate.

    Without being able to see the performances, international voters would need to vote based on favorites only. Since it takes time to record BOTB into digital format, edit out the commercials, and upload the video onto Youtube, it is less likely international voters could view BOTB on Youtube before the Tuesday voting deadline. Assuming someone is even willing to make the effort to upload.

    I suspect geoblocking may be a decision controlled by CBC, and not necessarily BOTB producers. But I could be wrong. Certainly CBC would want to sell their programming to cable companies in the USA, which would be less likely if the shows are available free online. Still, as far as I know CBC does not appear to be making a serious effort to patrol Youtube for copyrighted uploads of BOTB.

    That was also my suspicion. After seeing what happened last Sunday, voters may become more cautious about how they distribute their votes.
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  12. badskater62

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    Sinead and Grant are the one's to beat now, I think. He just looks like he loves what he is doing out there and puts everything into it, but also love what Violetta and her partner are putting on the ice. Maybe this is the year of the ice dancer? (or adaggio)
  13. rvi5

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    Sinead and Grant do seem popular with the judges. Historically, BOTB beyond season 1 has always been won by a guest as opposed to a regular. However, this year Violetta and Jason have also been doing very well. If I am not mistaken, aren't they the only team who have yet to drop below 17.0 after the judges voting? Shae and Anson have been up and down. We know Shae always gives it 100%, so Anson will be the make-or-break deciding factor.

    P.S. According to a video clip, Amanda and Scott are planning to performing a throw double lutz this week. They seemed to be landing it OK in the video.
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  14. badskater62

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    BOTB has so far always been won by a pair skating team.. and yes that's what I thought about Amanda and Scott as well. Shae and Anson were outstanding in their first routine and I think will have to do something equally strong, just to match that. I also think that everyone is expecting too much from Shae and Marie-France - because we all know now what they can do. That's why I think the hockey players will have to do something exceptional, themselves, for the pair to stand out. Just my thoughts on it.
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    They got 16.6 the first week. I agree that Sinead and Grant and Violetta and Jason seem to be the front runners at this point. But in every season she's been in, both the judges and the public seemed to be in love with Violetta, but she never made it past the 4th week, and the reason I think is that her programs tend to be too similar, fun happy up beat numbers with great lifts, and I guess that after a few weeks people want to see more. Maybe it will be different this year. Still rooting for Shae Lynn to finally win, but it's looking doubtful unless Anson gets better.
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  17. Alvyne

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    True. I guess BOTB is like competition skating. You need to peak at the right time. However in competition skating, you are not at risk of being permanently eliminated after every competition if you didn't do well.

    P.S. Last weeks episode will be replayed on Sunday at 4:00pm EST
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  20. KatieC

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    Totally shocked by the bottom two tonight. Makes no sense to me, but perhaps the judges will use the save.
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    Me too, on both counts.
  22. victorskid

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    Count me in the same camp! Got home late so catching up on the PVR'd feed from Halifax.

    Theme - Canadian songbook

    First up - Violetta & Jason - 17.1
    Next up - Marie-France & Mathieu - 17.6
    Next up - Jessica & Brian (after finding out the Jessica has been skating with a sprained ankle since early in their partnership) - 16.9 (with a fall on a throw)
    Next up - Amanda & Scott - 17.3

    Next -

    In the bottom 2 for the skate-off:
    * Sinead & Grant - (with a slight stumble from Sinead at the very beginning) - 17.1
    * Shae-Lynn & Anson - [very long commercial break!!] - 16.9 - ING SAVE used!! - judges think the speed was great tonight but he's capable of more in terms of footwork, etc.
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  23. amy8

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    Me three. Just strange.
  24. badskater62

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    Totally suprised by that as well. Stanger is the high marks Jessica and Brian just got. Sinead and Grand got marked down because of his fall, last week
  25. KatieC

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    I thought Jessica landed the throw, and then almost fell out of the rink. Call me bitchy, but I don't think she was all that steady on her feet in amateur competition.
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  26. Dave of the North

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    I thought Sinead and Grant were pretty rough all through their skate tonight, surprised they were marked ahead of Shae-Lynn and Anson.
  27. Alvyne

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    Well it was obvious they were going to use the save tonight...

    I thought the best were Marie-France and Mathieu and Amanda and Scott. Violetta and Jason were a bit cautious tonight, but impressive lift. Brian is getting better, too bad about Jessica's fall after the throw. I thought Sinead and Grant were not as good as in previous weeks, they were going for something hot and steamy, but the chemistry was not really there. Shae Lynn needs a new partner, Anson is trying, but he is not at the level of her former partners Claude and Patrice.
  28. victorskid

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    I agree, Dave - it started with the slip on Sinead's part from the opening pose. I couldn't believe that Jamie gave them a 5.8 which is what she gave to Violetta & Jason and to Amanda & Scott. She gave Shae-Lynn & Anson 5.6 which is the same as her score for Jessica & Brian. Colour me confused...
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    I'm with all of you on shock over the bottom two.
    Was pretty sure they would use the save and they did. Hooray to P.J.Stock for scoring differently from Kurt and Jamie. My hope for the final 3 would be Shae, Sinead and M-F. I am not grabbed by Jessica but there is a large Savage contingent (bright pink tee shirts) so maybe that's where the votes are coming from.
    I have to say that Sinead has it in her to really sizzle! She can now try some things she just wouldn't do with her brother. And kudos to Shae for doing pair moves when she's not a pairs skater. Yes, I know she had some background in it but I really think she tries to push boundaries.
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    Probably a lot of casual fans who think a fall is the end of the world. When I saw the judges faces after the announcement of the bottom two, I figured they would use the save. Glad they did.
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    I just got back from the taping of tonight's episode. It was so much fun! If you're in the Toronto area it's totally worth it. Tickets are cheap ($12) but sell out quickly. We sat a couple of rows behind Patrice Lauzon. Maria Jelinek, Don Jackson, Annabelle Langlois and Yannick Bisson (from CBC's Murdoch Mysteries) were all in the audience and got shoutouts during the commercial breaks. I got some OK photos (though not many of the skaters stuck around after the show and all my photos of Kurt came out blurry, argh!) and I'll get around to posting them here over the next couple of days.
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  32. jenniferlyon

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    I'm glad they used the save tonight. I want to see what Shae comes up with for the Halloween show!
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    I was also at the show tonight! Anson and Shae were SUPER fast, sharp and immediately set a mood. I'm surprised at their marks being so low? But I'm relieved they got the save. Both teams in the bottom two were a shock and deserve to move on.

    Jessica and Brian, however... man... she looked like she wasn't keeping up with him at times.

    Everyone else was awesome! But Violetta is reaching her limit, just like she does every season about this time. Hopefully she and her partner do something other than slight variations of the same lift. He's really good.
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    I felt that the only judge who was giving the correct judges was PJ
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    I was a bit underwhelmed this week overall. Not surprised Anson and Shae were in the bottom but surprised by Grant and Sinead. Knew they would use the save. For me everyone was just ok or good this week. Anson sticks out like a sore thumb though, I know he's trying but he looks a bit clumbsy at times. I really like him and had high hopes but I just don't think it's in the cards for Shae this time. Poor Amanda got stuck with a 'Rush' song:scream:, sorry but I cannot stand them, Canadian icons or not. I agree about Jess struggling to keep up sometimes. She sometimes looks like she's the one learning to figure skate. Sorry.
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    Did the rest of you get the impression that there was going to be a Halloween show? I was waiting for the announcement but Ron Maclean seemed to downplay it. Now I'm confused. I don't know whether to dress up or not! Sounded like he mentioned the theme as being couples.
  37. Alvyne

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    According to my pvr guide, next week's theme is "Iconic Duos". Maybe they will do the Halloween episode on November 3rd.
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    But that didn't make a difference when Jessica fell on a throw. Although voted into the bottom two by judges, they were voted to safety by the public.

    First week, the couples who were voted into the bottom two by judges stayed there (Oksana/Vlad and Marcy/Mike). Twice, the judges placed Jessica/Brian into the bottom two. Twice they were voted out of the bottom two by the public, while the other couple remained at the bottom. It appears that Jessica and/or Brian have a lot of loyal fans, or perhaps there is some type of voting campaign to save them (eg. mass home town voting). If this pattern continues, I would expect Jessica/Brian to be saved for a third time (despite the fall). If so, Shae/Anson will be competing against one of the other top couples next week. With the "Save" gone, that is not looking good. They (ie. Anson) will need to bring it next week.
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  40. Lara

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    The Montreal Canadiens Twitter account has occasionally retweeted support for Marie-France and Matthew, but I can't say I'm aware of any special support for Jessica and Brian. I guess we'll see next week.