Cappellini-Lanotte leaving Zazoui and returning in Italy

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  1. eleonorad

    eleonorad New Member

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    Today the national sports newspaper (Gazzetta dello Sport. 5-11.2010) reported that Anna Cappellini and Luca Lanotte left Muriel Zazoui and came back to Milan where they are training with Paola Mezzadri, apparently due to unsatisfying results (but no further explication is given) had with Muriel ever since last season.

    They will change their free dance and, in order to prepare it, the're going to withdraw from Skate America.

    http://yfrog.com/0igazzetta5novcappellinij
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  2. Jenna

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    I am not surprised after NHK. Hopefully it all works out!

    I hope the Georgian team replaces them at Skate America...they train in the US.
  3. Ziggy

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    It's a shame that the relationship with Muriel and Roman didn't work out.

    They should probably move abroad to some decent coach.

    FD was a big mistake, I am glad they are changing it.
  4. BittyBug

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    I can certainly understand how discouraging it must be for them to fall in the rankings, so I'm not terribly surprised by the move. I really like C&L, so I hope this works out for them.
  5. SUN

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    Heard the rumor that they are talking to Spilbandt, but may be for the next season?
  6. pani

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    :eek:
    But Anna-Luca a lot off times made programs in V-M style- maybe they like there style.
  7. BlueRidge

    BlueRidge AYS's snark-sponge

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    Well I think this is good. Things were not working for them. And I'm glad they are changing the FD. Good luck to them!
  8. IneZR

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    I think this is a right decision for them. I don't know the details of their work with Zazoui (has she tried to change their technique?), but obviously they've been regressing since they moved to Lyon. :( I hope things work out well for them and they find the right coach. They are still very young and have a lot of time before Sochi to work on their technique issues.
  9. casken

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    This is a bit disappointing, but I guess I can't blame them.

    I was actually looking forward to seeing that FD again clean.

    :( if they go to Shpilband.
  10. sweetsparky

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    The FD certainly wasn´t working for them so I guess it was the moment to decide changing it and try to correct their situation this season, but changing coaches is more a surprise, considering we´re just starting the season. Anyway I wish them luck, they´re young and talented.
  11. DORISPULASKI

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    AFAIR, aren't Meryl and Anna friendly? Detroit might work out well for C/L. It's good to have friends in the area you move to.

    Doesn't have to be Shpilband, though.

    Will any team replace them at SA, or is it too late?
  12. briancoogaert

    briancoogaert Well-Known Member

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    I don't like too many change of coach. But I guess that it's for the best since it seems it didn't work with Zazoui...
  13. Ziggy

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    I wonder what went wrong and why the relationship with coaches as awesome as Zazoui and Hagenauer didn't work out.

    "Requiem for a Dream" was their first mature FD so at least that worked right.
  14. L'amour

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    Muriel wasn't reallly working for C/P, I think they need some fresh programs, they are so young and mature at the same time.

    I really hope they don't go to Canton camp. There are way to many top teams there.
  15. shah

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    I sort of felt it coming...I wasn't a fan of their RFAD free dance, they seemed quite uncomfortable with Melody Gardot...hope they'll sort all thing out and improve just for Euros and Worlds!
    shame that it means less porny Romain on TV :(...
    :scream:
    how many more pairs Z and S could embrace? V/M, D/W, Sam/Bates, Khohk/A, Shibs, Chock/Zuerlein, Tobias/Stagniunas plus some less known couples - quite crowdy over there!
  16. Ziggy

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    It would be idiotic to go to Z&S considering how many teams they are coaching already. They wouldn't have enough time for them.
  17. newbatgirl

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    Agreed. They would not get the attention they need.
  18. Tak

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    Well, I'm not surprised to hear this at all - I can only say - THANK GOD!!! I hope they ditch that lame SD as well. I said they needed a coaching change and I'm glad they agreed with me.

    Whether these coaches are just for this season or permanent - I hope things work out for them. And I'm really looking forward to seeing their new programs.

    :respec: to them for having the courage to make the change.

    BTW - The pbp thread said F/S are no longer coached by Krylova/Camerlengo? If that's true, C/L might consider them as a less crowded alternative to S/Z. They worked wonders for F/S - huge improvement in their skating.
  19. DORISPULASKI

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    Haven't F/S been with Linichuk for about a year? On US Tanith commented that she trained with them all last year, and then gushed about how wonderful there were and how hard it was for Federica to skate with a hernia, but she kept on.
  20. Tak

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    I'm totally out of the loop on this - in fact, I could have sworn I saw Camerlengo in the KnC with them - at least at some comps [I cant remember Olympics]. Do you know why they left - I thought they were doing really well with them.
  21. Eden

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    C/L did the right thing, IMO.
    Zazoui simply didn't suit them. I hope the new team will manage to provide a better and suitable FD for them.
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  22. topaz

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    Honestly I don't think they is gonna help them much. Zazoui seemed to improve their technique and challenged them in the material she gave them. They are not comfortable with being more edgy?

    They fell in the rankings because they've skated like crap. Luca is better skater than Anna and this has become more and more noticeable. I really do hope they find what they are looking for. But they better be careful what they asked for cuz they just may get it. New coach, new programs and they'll ranking will not change.

    I don't see placing in the top 6 at euros with this coaching change and definitely not in the 10 top at worlds.
  23. Pratfall

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    Maybe it's only an interim arrangement..'til next year.:) If they're just going down the ladder with every successive competition , they have nothing to lose by making a change now..even if they need to make a further change next season.

    For F/S last year , I thought Linichuk was their official /main coach, but Camerlengo was their choreographer..? ...Was he an official /secondary coach as well ?

    I think Camerlengo would be a good choice for C/LN..I like them very much, and hope they'll find a good situation.
  24. victoriaheidi

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    Can you imagine what their J/GP season must be like? And what their J/GPF experience is going to be like?
  25. alhrayth

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    I can agree to the part about the edgier material (though the FD they're going to ditch was utterly boring so I can't wait for that) but I def. cannot see how they were improving in their technique... I'd say quite the contrary actually. I had hoped they would come to their senses last year afetr worlds (Anna was totally crushed after the FD, poor girl) but any time is better than never... I'm curious to see them at Nats, it's little more than a month from now...

    Good first point. And for the (for me) obligatory F/S clarification: Last year they started officialy with Pasquale + Paola Mezzadri as coaches (plus Paola acting choreographer with other people), but later switched their US base to Linichuck, basically cutting Pasquale out (not them, the federation. They actually insisted to have him listed as coach and accredited to events anyway, after all the work they'd done together). They worked the rest of the season with Linichuck/Karponossov in the US, and Mezzadri as choach plus other choreographers when they were in Italy.

    It will be interesting to see what Paola will do with Anna and Luca and how it will all work out. After all, Anna grew up skating with her (back when she skated up till Jr with Matteo Zanni). Then when Mezzadri/Pelizzola split, Anna/Luca went with Pelizzola and only later moved to Lyon.
  26. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    Yes... maybe instead of them getting a new coach, it should be him getting a new partner... :shuffle: Where are all the fierce divas in Italy? I miss Barbara. :(
  27. topaz

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    Amen to that! :respec:

    Barbara's skating ability was WOW. Barbara is the one of the best ice dancers male and female of her generation. Musicality exceptional, Versatile in every music genre/style.
  28. Ziggy

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    Shush, it's the best SD I've seen so far this season.

    Faiella/Scali have already been training under Linichuk last season.

    I say yes to that idea for Capellini/LaNotte.
  29. victoriaheidi

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    Must ask (slightly off-topic): what was wrong with her skirts in China?
  30. DORISPULASKI

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    They were very long, and she wasn't doing anything to manage them with an arm, for example.
  31. Tak

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    Ugh! Saccharin-laden schmaltz! It's so cutesy-cutesy and sickeningly sweet it makes my teeth ache just watching it. The music choices alone are :yikes: and :scream:

    The best SDs I've seen so far all come from Gorshkov/Petukov - interesting, well thought out, an artistic whole, AND the movements actually fit the music well [not a given anymore unfortunately]. They did SDs for Hoff/Zav, Riazanova/T and Kos/M in juniors. My 3 favorite programs so far. I'm just hoping they perform them well.
  32. LordCirque

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    I disagree that Zazoui didn't suit them. Their Requiem for a Dream FD was perfect for them and Muriel did that for them.

    They should stay with Zazoui and just get a new FD from her IMO, especially now that they've done away with that bs uplifting crap, Zazoui could give them a much better piece along the lines of Requiem for a Dream.
  33. LordCirque

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    Anyone else wondering how long it will be before we hear that F&S are ditching the Flamenco FD for a new one? I'll be shocked if this one stays around.
  34. eleonorad

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    I'm pretty sure there are more and most complicated reasons why the left Zazoui rather then a simply not very good free dance,and of course the Federation must have a role in all this.

    I'm worried,I've always been a fan of C/L, and from next season on, they will most likely replace F/S as first couple as F/S will probably retire.. and they are just not ready yet! Not because they're too young or unexperienced, but a coaching change requires time and patience to work: will they go for *another* coaching change this summer? are they going to look for a new team abroad this season (pretty impossible)?. I don't think they're going to stay with Mezzadri for the future seasons but on the other side, there are not too many options in Europe..

    I was expecting them to have "the" great season this year or the next one, now :(
    Oh boy, I hate mid-season coaching changes so much!
  35. ballettmaus

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    The question is if they're placement at NHK just had to do with their free dance. Since F/S are still not retired, C/L are still only #2 in Italy...

    But apart from that, I had the feeling that they stagnated ever since they've been with Zazoui. Maybe it's simply a coach-skater match which didn't work out? Maybe style and work technique didn't work? Zazoui is a good coach but I think if coach and skater don't go together... Something doesn't necessarily have to happen, not every coach is right for every skater.

    I wasn't too fond of either programs last season and the FD this year isn't blowing me away as well. Something was just bothering me about their programs.

    They need a coach who can make them reach their potential; I doubt it's already reached but technically, they didn't seem to have made any progress during the 2008-2009 to 2009-2010 season.
    I don't think it's the artistry they have problems with but the technique and I hope they find someone who can bring their technique to match their artistry.

    On a side note, who does Zazoui have left to coach now? Are the Germans still with them? There aren't any elite skaters left, are there?
  36. Nmsis

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    Carron/Jones


    and in junior
    Brown / Bott
    Zahorski / Miart
    plus partly Papadakis / Cizeron
    all 3 couples barely missed the qualification for the JGPF and have ambitions for Jr Wolrd
  37. Ziggy

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    It's a retro themed program that is supposed to imitate traditional ballroom dancing.

    You might not like that music but it works very well with the idea they've chosen.

    And how many dances have you seen in recent years with so many closed holds?
  38. DORISPULASKI

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    I'm OK with the SD, although Doris Day is a bit much, but I wish Anna did not have that strange skirt with the life of its own.
  39. ballettmaus

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    Right. Forgot about Carron/Jones... :slinkaway
    That's not a lot though, given how many couples there were during times of Marina and Gwendal.

    Thanks for the info.
  40. DORISPULASKI

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    Did politicking for Carron / Jones get annoying for C/L, do you suppose? C/J are about the same level at Worlds as C/L. Not everyone enjoys having that close competition at their training rink. OTOH, D&W and V&M seemed to thrive on it.