Caitlin Yankowskas on Ice Partner Search

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  1. MacMadame

    MacMadame Internet Beyotch

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    This thread bothers me a bit. I mean the very first suggestion of a partner for Yankowskas is someone who is teamed up with another skater? The very first! I think that's amazingly rude and worse to that skater's actual partner. It makes me mad enough for her that I want to hunt some of you down and kick you in the pants. These aren't trading cards but real people.
  2. Skittl1321

    Skittl1321 Well-Known Member

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    Do American pairs men tend on the shorter side? Because 5'3" doesn't seem too tall, yet her height is often discussed as a liability.
  3. Ziggy

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    Lack of partners was pretty low on the list of Mukhortova's isssues. :p

    It's not just the height. Yankowskas has a woman's body with curves. And sadly that's really not good in this sport which favours twigs because of how the biomechanics work.
  4. Jeschke

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    aaaah, mukhortova....:wuzrobbed

    my wounded heart :(
  5. stjeaskategym

    stjeaskategym Well-Known Member

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    I agree. I know some people like to suggest "dream pairings", but some of the scenarios that get mentioned on forums are so unrealistic or not really beneficial that all they really do is knock the partners the skaters currently have. One minute people are begging for teams (sometimes even teams they've never seen before) to stay together, and then the next minute they act like this is the NBA where you can swap players around a bunch of times to try to make instantaneously stronger teams. :lol: Creating pairs that truly work is really not simple.
  6. FSfan107

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    Yankowskas is trim and very fit. She seems to have lost weight recently from the picture I saw of her on Facebook. I don't think of her as "curvy" at all. IMO, we shouldn't be discussing her weight at all. Women pair skaters have it really tough, we don't need to be giving them eating disorders.
  7. acraven

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    I think it's more that there just aren't many male pair skaters in the US, period, and some of those we do have are short enough that they probably need partners closer to 5' than to 5'3. Most males who go into pairs seem to make the switch in their mid-teens or later. By that time, there aren't that many boys left in the sport. Since it's mostly the more successful skaters who stick around to the age of 15 - 18 (or older), and jumping tends to be easier for the not-so-tall skaters, a lot of the mid-teen and older male skaters are of average height or less. And of course not every tallish male skater wants to go into--or stay in--pairs.
  8. Ziggy

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    I didn't say she wasn't fit and I didn't say she needed to lose weight. I said she has a woman's body and not a girl's body (curvy doesn't mean overweight, unfit or fat last time I checked the dictionary).
  9. Coco

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    Caitlin needs to go all "toe pick!" and find a minor league hockey player who probably isn't going to make it to the NHL for whatever reason.
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  10. Smiley0884

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    Thank you! People tend to misuse the word "curvy" since the media has decided to re-invent the word as a PC replacement for overweight, thick, large build, ect.

    Caitlin does have curves, but she also looks small boned...it's a shame there aren't more U.S. pairs men available for her to skate with. I wonder if she could possibly find a singles skater to convert to pairs?

    I'm not in the group that thinks Caitlin is the savior to U.S. Pairs skating, but I do think she is super talented, and it's a shame that she can't seem to find an ideal partner.
  11. FSfan107

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    I understand what you mean, Ziggy. I just get nervous that the skaters may get the wrong idea.
  12. Jammers

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    So how come no news about the breakup from USFS?
  13. MacMadame

    MacMadame Internet Beyotch

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    Because they never competed at a USFS qualifying competition, championship or were on the national team is my guess.
  14. casken

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    Converting roller skaters seems to be trending lately.
  15. dots

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    Roller skaters turned ice skaters always have tiny jumps, but what an excellent idea.

    A hockey player would be fast and powerful, but it would probably take them a few years to get him ready.
  16. jkl

    jkl Well-Known Member

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    Has anyone heard anything about Caitlin having any tryouts?
  17. jjane45

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    In reality, has any hockey player picked up figure skating as an adult (or late teen) and actually become successful internationally?
  18. Ziggy

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    Not like they don't hear about their weight all the time from their coaches, judges, federation officials, etc. etc. etc. :p

    No.
  19. robinhood

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    On spanish tv they were saying Max Aaron played hockey till he was 14 and picked up fs from there...dunno if it's totally true as they often make some stories up:)
  20. Skittl1321

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    I would really like to know a real bio on him. The information seems to be very conflicting.

    His ice network bio says he started figure skating at the age 9. I would bet it wasn't very seriously at first though. Wikipedia reports 9th place juvenile at regionals in 2003, so he would have been like 11 then? He won juvenile the next year.

    The ice network bio says he played elite hockey for 14 years. If he started hockey skating at age 4 like he bio says, I imagine there were a number of years he played non-elite hockey too, right? But wikipedia says he stopped playing hockey in 2008 (and had to take a year off the ice due to injury), and he would have only been 16ish then, so those numbers don't work.

    It is interesting that he was playing with the US development team levels in hockey while competing junior in figure skating. That must be hard to maintain high level in two sports.
  21. 2sk8

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    Not True - he was playing hockey (and apparently quite good at it), but he was also figure skating. He competed in Intermediate Men at the 2006 USFS Junior Nationals (so Dec. 2005), when he would have been 13, unless my math is off.
  22. antmanb

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    Not a hockey player, but didn't we have a thread recently get bumped about a football (soccer) star skating pairs with an established OES pairs skater? His skating skills looked really good for someone learning as an adult, and some of their pair elements lloked nice enough. I thikn he was struggling to land double salchows though....i'm drawing a blank on their names - they were training in germany (maybe obsertsdorf?).
  23. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Here you go: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/sho...skater-aka-Bestandigova-news-(Threads-Merged)

    I've re-posted the above comments and replied in the Max Aaron articles thread: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/sho...mp-Max-Aaron&p=3885738&viewfull=1#post3885738

    ETA:
    Yes on the first two, but Y/R were on the national team (Reserve team envelope).
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  24. MacMadame

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    Well Reserve Team is pushing it for a PR but not out the realm of possibility. But I suspect USFS only does them if the skaters involve send them one to send out. And it looks like Y/R really want this partnership to fade into the night.
  25. jkl

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    I am surprised that we haven't heard of any tryouts....also very surprised that Caitlin posted on IPS. I have never seen a former national champion do that. Most high profile skaters get their tryouts through word of mouth...right?
  26. BittyBug

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    Drew Meekins is a former Junior World champion, and he was on IPS.
  27. jkl

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    I noticed that Caitlin has updated her IPS profile. She corrected the fact that she wanted a dance partner to a pairs partner. ;)
    Anyone think she reads FSU?
  28. 2sk8

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    Well, she is no longer on IPS - any one know who she might be skating with? I hope it goes better this time around.
  29. crzesk8dad

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    She should call Wesley Campbell, if she is still looking. I understand that he was interested at competing in pairs.

    I just looked on IPS, I didn't see Caitlin on it, did she change her mind? (Or do I need new glasses?)
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  30. shan

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    Crossing my fingers that she found a great partner!! :cheer2:
  31. Jayar

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    Wesley will be giving up his eligibility very soon-- he has a cruise contract.
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    Wesley is also a leftie and hasn't competed much in pairs.
  33. NadineWhite

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    Ah, sorry to hear the news. :(

    Caitlin has so much talent and ability and potential that's already been realized ~ both she & John Coughlin finished the highest of any American pair at Worlds in 2011 (6th) since Inoue & Baldwin in 2006 (4th) ~ that's saying a lot! No American pair has actually medalled at Worlds since 2002 (Ina & Zimmerman bronze).

    She's honestly like the Oksana Baiul of pairs skating, such a shame that she's yet to realize her FULL potential at only 23 years of age, and I hate to say it (being a patriotic American) but mayhap it's time she switched to another country so she can skate with somebody of her calibre. Marina Anissina did it, so can Caitlin.

    As it stands now, the only two American guys tall enough for her and good enough would be either Shnapir or Knierim, and both of them are taken unfortunately, more's the pity. :(

    Here's wishing Caitlin all the best; she's still young enough to find somebody and make a phenomenal comeback! :cheer2:
  34. Rob

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    I think you might be right. Let's play Fantasy Pairs skating - if the US released her, who is available in another country?
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  36. Vash01

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    It's very hard to find a strong male pairs partner in the USA because most talented men want to pursue singles career. I think Caitlyn would be better off looking outside at this point.
  37. olympic

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    I'm fine with Timothy LeDuc skating with DeeDee Leng, but a pairing with Caitlin would've been phenomenal. I believe he is 6-2 and like her, he skates with a lot of stretch and extension
  38. Skittl1321

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    He tried out with her. IIRC, he was very surprised when she announced her partnership, as he thought he would be skating with her.

    Tim and DeeDee are doing well, they had mistakes at nationals but show promise. It would be stupid, though typical of US pairs, for him to dump a partner heading into an Olympic season. Partner hoping is one of the reasons the US has done so poorly on the world stage.
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    I had never really seen Tim skate till I went to Omaha in January and came away really impressed with how he looks on the ice and his skills as a pairs skater so I'm sorry things with him in Caitlin didn't work out. I'm not sold on his partnership with DeeDee but we'll see how it goes with another season under their belts.
  40. reese

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    I think DeeDee and Tim have a ridiculous amount of potential. It would be completely stupid to break up; they could be national champions in 2 years...