Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by belldkay, Feb 5, 2011.
Are they a pair off ice also? Seemed that way at Nationals.
I thought I would take a shot at this question .... every time I look at Caitlin, my brain goes "she looks just like ....." and I can't place it. Does she remind you of anyone? Another skater? A singer? An actress?? Especially when you look at their pic on the USFS banner. Its driving me nuts how much I think she looks like someone, and I can't quite place who I think she looks like. Anyone got a shot?
According to Peter Carruthers Oksana Baiul.
I am with Peter.
She has that harsh Russian beach blond look.
I thought so, too.
Ohhh. I think that's it. I was thinking skater the whole time. In my brain anyway, I think that's who I am thinking of.
She does look like Julia Obertas actually but I wondered if her look is more inspired by a mix of Tatiana Volosozhar & Aliona Savchenko?
I doubt they are a couple but just a side note, she is just stunning and has an amazing style about her. I completely agree with Peter, Oksana Baiul was the first thing that came to my head too. I was completely not paying attention to her partner unfortunately, but every little movement she was doing. I was really floored.
Caitlin and John were certainly repackaged from last year to this year-- their costumes, their music and choreography. Her very bleached hair and over-the-top makeup always struck me as a bit much until this year, but I agree that she has a very Julia Obertas look this year that's quite striking. I do wish she would tone down the very fake eyelashes and eyeliner just a bit, mostly because I've seen her without makeup and she's absolutely drop dead gorgeous.
I'm also a big fan of skates over the boots for the ladies and I'm glad she made the switch this year. Like Alissa, I'm sure it's made all the difference!
At the Fans of Figure Skating Breakfast at Nationals last week it wasw mentioned that they have gotten "very much closer"over the last year. Upon observation they throughout the event, they really seemed like a couple.
Last I heard, John Coughlin was still with his girlfriend named Stephanie. Or maybe he was just still bromancing Drew Meekins(Seriously, any excuse to link to this blog is a good one)
What really struck me about Y/C this year is how confident they looked. Last year they seemed surprised to skate as well as they did in their short. This year it looked like they expected it of themselves.
ITA, Caitlin = Aliona.
I think they will have to be a couple at some point, have 10 kids, get a reality tv show (let's call it: "John and Caitlin plus ten").
I was gonna give the girl a break and say she can get away with only 8 kids and then the show could be called John & Cait plus eight, but that's just so 2009.
I thought Caitlin looked like Tatiana Volosozhar, but now that people mention it, she does look like Julia Obertas too.
well, her last name indicates she has some Eastern European roots.
http://www.unionleader.com/article....16&headline=NH native skates her way to glory
And while Yankowskas was quick to clarify that she and Coughlin are not a couple off the ice, she described her skating partner as her best friend.
All I know is that I love Caitlin's makeup! I've always loved it.
This year she has blossomed into a ballerina on ice and I'm in love with this team! They are precious souls and I'm very thankful skating has them so they can share their spirit with us. Their LP was one for the ages.
I couldn't agree more.
Although I like their long program, I must disagree about her make-up. That heavy back eyeliner and fake Tammy Faye eyelashes are NOT doing her any favors. They is a gulf of difference between a smokey eye and washed up Vegas showgirl. She is too pretty to look like that. Besides it makes he look years older than she is.
I don't think she looks like Aliona or Tatiana at all, I think it's Julia Obertas.
This is a great article, thanks for the link kwanette.
They definitely have great chemistry between them on the ice, that reaches to the audience. Just goes to show that "chemistry" does not have to equal "romance".
I was reading the protocols from Nats.
They have developed very nicely. Interesting though that they go for level 4s on all elements with the exception of the triple twist and death spiral, which are only level 1. I think they should try to boost those levels if possible to compete with the teams above them. It seems like the triple twist is a fairly easy element for them as it is. Does anyone have any insight to this?
A level 1 triple twist is normal... And they do sometimes get a lvl 2. But the lvl 1 death spirals hurt, as well as the lvl 3 pair spin. Those are upgradeable. Another lvl 4 lift would also help. More importantly, they'll want to try to get a harder throw into their SP in the future. But I understand that their focus has been on consistency.
Thanks. That is what I thought -getting consistent. Maybe there is a plan in place to bump up the levels going into Worlds now that they seem really much more consistent.
I saw E/L had a level 2 twist. D/B had a level 3 twist, and considering his size and her basics, I thought they could probably get at least another level there if the others could do it.
Also, a throw 3loop is immediately doable in the SP. That would give them another 0.5, but maybe they're trying to just work GOE on a beautiful throw 3sal. I don't think I've ever seen them do a throw 3flip or throw 3lutz?
To get a higher level on the twist, you need a difficult takeoff, lady's split of the legs, clean catch, and lady's arms above her head for at least one revolution.
Here's the link to the list of features for different levels on all pair elements:
http://www.usfigureskating.org/Content/201011 Pairs Levels of Difficulty.pdf
Thank you. I was looking for a protocol sheet just like this!
I don't see where D/B had a level 3 twist.
Maybe I misread it, but I found it in the protocol for either their Nats SP or LP
On the Grand Prix, D/B were getting Lvl 1 for their twist, and E/L & Y/C were getting a Lvl 1 or 2, depending on the day. A Lvl 3 from anyone, never mind the US teams, has been rare. Several of the top teams do a Lvl 1 twist. So Y/C really aren't losing ground here like they are by throwing away a level on something like the pair spin, which generally shouldn't be that hard to reach Lvl 4.
Yeah, they've really just tried to keep it consistent, but I imagine they will try to get the loop in there for next season.
thanks, how about the death spiral? They seem to pull only level 1 there and that would be another element they could gain ground / increase levels by simply adding extra movements
One important thing to remember is, any element may be choreographed to be a level 4; it's just not executed that way the day of competition, for whatever reason. I'm sure they have a level 4 death spiral but something that day might have happened and the base value was lowered.
I have to give John and Caitlin a lot of credit. They suffered a bitter disappointment at nationals in 2010. They stuck it out after a disappointing 2010 nationals and it payed off this year. They are good people who have the drive to be the best.
Same thought here too.
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