Brazil Club Fire 245 Dead

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  1. skipaway

    skipaway Well-Known Member

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    Just shockingly sad. RIP to all who perished.

    Brazil Club Fire


    This seems to be a common cause of Club fires....when will they learn?
     
  2. beepbeep

    beepbeep Resident Rude Brazilian

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    The oficial death toll has been updated: 232 dead, 131 injured.
    The identification of the bodies started a while ago.

    I live in this state, and Santa Maria is not that far away form the city capital, where I live.

    Everyone is in absolute shock.
    Santa Maria is an University city, so a lot of kids form the rest of the state go there to study.
    The result is that everyone knows someone that knows someone or has family there.
    It becomes even more personal. A friend of mine has 2 cousins that were on that party and the family feels the worst has happened to them.
    I'm still absolutely numb.

    There are many rumors: that security had the doors briefly closed, so people wouldn't leave without paying, because they thought it was something minor.
    There were no emergency exits, just the front door, unsignalized. People rushed to the bathrooms, thinking they were the emergency exits. All of those people died of asphixiation. Firemen broke the wall from the outside, trying to get people out.
    The fire started after the band used some pyrotchnics on the stage, that hit the highly flammable acoustic protecction. The place, which had no windos, was filled with black, thick smoke within 2 or 3 minutes.
     
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  3. purple skates

    purple skates Shadow dancing

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    (((beepbeep))) (((your people)))
     
  4. Buzz

    Buzz Well-Known Member

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    My heart and prayers go out to the victims and their families. The death toll is just shocking. ((((beepbeep)))
     
  5. Cachoo

    Cachoo Well-Known Member

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    That is so sad and horrific.
     
  6. Vash01

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    Just saw this on CNN. What a horrible tragedy! My heart goes out to the victims and their families.
     
  7. Wyliefan

    Wyliefan Well-Known Member

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    :eek: How horrible!
     
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  9. duane

    duane New Member

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    Wow, I thought emergency exits were required for all clubs. Perhaps not in Brazil?
     
  10. beepbeep

    beepbeep Resident Rude Brazilian

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    I should report that my friends cousins were found, alive, in separate hospitals. I don't know much more than that.

    Up to now, about 180 have been identified.:(
    More people are expected to to become/sick die in the next few days, as effects of breathing smoke in those that seemed fine at that moment take 24 to 48h to take their toll.
    :( :(
     
  11. Cachoo

    Cachoo Well-Known Member

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    I wish your friends--all of the victims who made it out alive---a speedy recovery. I'm so sad for all of those families who lost loved ones.
     
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  12. beepbeep

    beepbeep Resident Rude Brazilian

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    It depends on the place. A friend of mine has a pub with just the front door. Fiscalization came in when he was about to open and told him where to put the fire extinguishers, lights to mark the way out and where him and his staff should be trained to deal with fires. He did what he was told, and it was good to go.

    But that was a place for 2000 people!! I don't think they called in someone to really check for safety.It's a chain of errors. Law states the minimum for security, and that is just what most nightclub owners do. They'll do just enough to be legal, regardless if it would be enough for the real safety to people when the place is packed. And just what the law states is what some auditors look for. Add a bit of corruption and there you go.

    The place's permit to function (I don't know if this is how it's said) from the city's fire department was expired, but that verification came a bit too late...
     
  13. Rex

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    It's been on CNN most of the afternoon. How utterly horrible. Those poor people.
     
  14. susan6

    susan6 Well-Known Member

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    Safety clearly wasn't in the owners' minds, considering that the max capacity of the club was apparently around 1000 and they had 2000 people in there.
     
  15. skatesindreams

    skatesindreams Well-Known Member

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    As do I!
     
  16. Sasha'sSpins

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    Just horrifying. My thoughts go out to the victims, their loved ones and the people of Brazil. :(
     
  17. Anita18

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    This is why fire codes and maximum capacity were invented. :( I really wish people would take those more seriously.

    Also, band members should NOT be in charge of pyrotechnics! Jesus Christ.

    Thank God your friend's cousins are safe! :( to the hundreds (!!!!) who perished. That number of people is just mind-boggling. :(
     
  18. l'etoile

    l'etoile New Member

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    How horrible:( My prayers will be with them.
     
  19. aliceanne

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    I don't understand the part about the club closing the doors to prevent people from leaving without paying. Don't people pay on the way in? Also in the pictures I saw the club looked so packed people couldn't even move about freely. Don't they have occupancy limits?
     
  20. beepbeep

    beepbeep Resident Rude Brazilian

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    Admission fee on the way in, then you pay what you drank/ate (it gets registerd in a card when you order) on the way out. There's an specific (absurdly high) fee to pay if you lose the card.

    This is an info graph of the place. It's in Portuguese, but you can get the picture.
     
  21. Lara

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    :( Reminds me of the fire in a San Juan, Puerto Rico hotel casino that took place just before Three Kings Day when I was a kid (late 80's?) There it was also said that doors were locked to prevent money being stolen. Very tragic. (((Santa Maria)))
     
  22. julieann

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    This is just terrible, all my prayers go out to the families of the victims. Will anyone ever learn from these fires :(
     
  23. taf2002

    taf2002 Texas slumlord

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    I think the band members & maybe the club owner or manager who ok'd the fireworks need to be charged with manslaughter. The pyrotecnics effect can be created with lights instead of fireworks and of course is 100% safer. Why anyone would think it's a good idea to set off fireworks in a crowded indoor space is beyond me. And it seems to me that a lot of deaths could have been averted if someone in the band had taken control & had made an annoucement to evacuate instead of just saving themselves when they saw the fire. Despicable!
     
  24. beepbeep

    beepbeep Resident Rude Brazilian

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    Two band members and both club owners are in jail and should be charged.
     
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    It makes me sick. Over and over again fire safety regulations are flouted, just about everywhere.

    I'm so sorry, beepbeep. I can't even imagine the sorrow and shock.
     
  27. skipaway

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