Books moral and immoral

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  1. galaxygirl

    galaxygirl Ma name's Beckeh

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    I just finished Gone Girl and I don't want to throw the book across the room. :) It actually ended basically how I expected it to once I decided my first theories on how it would end were wrong. I think the ending isn't surprising at all though that could be because I had heard grumblings about it so
    I knew it wouldn't end well.

    I suppose that's good in a way, not being surprised by the ending, but I also think it affected my enjoyment of the novel a bit because I spent most of the novel trying to figure out how it ended and I don't like doing that. I like to be surprised by endings (at least endings of mystery novels).

    Adding this down here instead of editing above because I'm on my phone. I think the ending wasn't surprising based on what happened when
    Amy was at Desi's.
     
  2. Prancer

    Prancer Jawwalking Staff Member

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    And maybe she didn't intend it to be more than that. That's just how I read it.

    One thing she has said is that people obviously read the book very differently, so she considers it a success even if people don't see it as she intended it be seen. And from what I have seen, people DO read the book very differently and get completely different things from it, which I think is interesting.
     
  3. Angelskates

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    I've got to read Homer's The Oddyssey and Virgil's The Aeneid in the next 12 weeks for a course on Roman and Greek Myth. I can't actually remember even reading them, but I know I did...I'm not sure if I'm looking forward to it or not!
     
  4. my little pony

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    lol, i know i read them because i have the books and they say "mlp rm 12" in the front, but i have no recollection reading them
     
  5. emason

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    Coursera by any chance? I am reading them also. I read The Aeneid in Latin class, but have not read The Odyssey.
     
  6. AJ Skatefan

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    I loved the Life of Pi, but I know what you mean about feeling manipulated by the ending. But I HATED Beatrice and Virgil. Enough that I don't want to read any more of that author.
     
  7. pat c

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    The ending of the Life of Pi, pretty well soured me on reading anything else by Yann Martel. Maybe I'll change my mind down the road, maybe not too. And I know I won't be watching the movie.
     
  8. maatTheViking

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    The past couple of years have become a fan of urban fantasy - romance or dramatic. I have read everything in my favorite series, and it will be a while before new books are available, so I am looking for something new to read.

    These are the stuff I read:
    Jim Butcher's Harry Dresden series, love it.
    Patricia Brigg's Mercy Thompson and Alpha & Omega series (love, love this - found it accidentally in an airport shop)
    Iliona Andrew's Kate Daniel's series, really like this
    Nalini Singh's Guild Hunter series, sort of like this. I love the world, the writing is not always great (and I find the smut parts boring :slinkaway , I don't normally)

    I have tried reading Anita Blake, but I got stuck.
    I have downloaded samples of Charlaine Harris Sookie Stackhouse and Seanan McGuire's October Daye books.
    I'm not really sure what to think of them - any good?

    Any recommendations in this vein?

    I also enjoy traditional fantasy, but I find it hard to find something good. Last I read some Brent Weeks, I enjoyed that.
    Have some good favorite fantasy authors?
     
  9. rfisher

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    The first 5 Anita Blake books are pretty good (first is really good). After that, she had a "personal revolution", divorced her husband and embraced sex (her description) and the books turned into porn with no more mystery.

    I've read all the Sookie books and, while some books better than others, the series is fun and reflects the northern LA, southern AR region CH lives. Or it does to me. If you aren't from that area the references to Wal-Mart and the Piggly Wiggly might be lost. :lol:
     
  10. PRlady

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    I was pissed off at the ending too especially since the book was so readable. Talk about unreliable narrators, the twists and turns of who is saying what and for what purpose was ingenious. Which made the ending that much more disappointing but there IS room for a sequel, right?
     
  11. flyingsit

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    So what did everyone hate about We Need to Talk About Kevin? Getting ready to start it today...
     
  12. Angelskates

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    Yes!

    I just finished. I liked the ended. Though I admit I was spoilt, I still think it added to the concept of the book (thinking of life, our place, immortality, our ability to reason, reasons for our reasoning, and in true FSU fashion, belief versus faith etc.) I really enjoyed it. So much to think about.
     
  13. emason

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    March on Coursera. We will have to have a private discussion as we read along. I'm doing the course because I am interested in the subject matter; I may do the quizzes, but there will be no essays from me. How about you?
     
  14. Angelskates

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    I'm just going to plod along and see. It's just for my own enjoyment. If it's no longer enjoyable, or part of it's not, I'll just stop or skip that part! ;)
     
  15. gkelly

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    I'm reading this now, because so many people in this thread enjoyed it. I'm no more than a third of the way in, no major twists yet, but it was pretty obvious to me by the third chapter that at least one of the narrators is leaving out the most important facts -- and pretty much let the reader know directly that there are lies as well.

    Fortunately I was able to quote galaxygirl's post and then delete the spoiler parts without reading them.


    Is that a spoiler? ;)

    I'll come back to the discussion after I finish the book.
     
  16. Impromptu

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    I tend to be really hit or miss about UF - so there might be a better person to answer this. That said, I also tried to get through Anita Blake and couldn't manage it and I love Jim Butcher (loved his Codex Alera series even more than the Dresden files, and I would definitely recommend that for fantasy. The series is complete at seven books, which means you wouldn't need to wait around for more to be published), so we might have similar tastes.

    Haven't read Seanan McGuire's October Daye series, but I did read her Discount Armageddon and thought it was a fun comic UF (the heroine is a slayer/ballroom dancer).

    The UFs I liked enough to read more than one in the series:
    Jennifer Estep's Elemental Assassin series

    Laura Anne Gilman's Paranormal Scene Investigations series (think CSI for ghost hunters). Also in fantasy, I enjoyed her Vineart War series, until the end of the last book where some of the important action was handled "off stage"

    Kat Richardson's Greywalker series

    C.E. Murphy's Urban Shaman series
     
  17. galaxygirl

    galaxygirl Ma name's Beckeh

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    If there is a sequel, I won't be reading it. Even though I thought the book was really well written, it was way too dark for me. I don't think I can take another book about Amy. :yikes:
     
  18. Artemis@BC

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    I really can't imagine a sequel. And,
    although the two principle characters are still alive at the end of the book,
    I really don't think the author intended to end it that way just so there's be the option of the sequel. This story is over, at least as far as the journey that would be worth reading.

    It's funny, though, how when a book (or movie) becomes popular these days, the instant expectation is "ok, when's the sequel"?
     
  19. Artemis@BC

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    Speaking of sequels ... Justin Cronin's The Twelve is out in a couple of weeks (Oct 16). There's no way I'm going to re-read the entire book of The Passage, which was waaaay too long, but I think I'll have to re-read the ending to familiarize myself with how things left off. I have a vague recollection, but that's it.
     
  20. galaxygirl

    galaxygirl Ma name's Beckeh

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    I think the best part of the ending of Gone Girl
    is that you don't really know what happens. I got the feeling that she has just decided to kill Nick. I loved the final paragraph. I just reread it and I think now that it was the perfect way to end the book. Very creepy.
     
  21. PRlady

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    The female character is
    going to be the topic of more than one PhD dissertation about the dark, or feared, aspects of today's over-achiever woman who outshines her mate. Fortunately the author is a woman.

    But it's a great movie role for someone....I'm thinking either Scarlett Johannson or Amy Adams. Charlize Theron is great at shiny characters with dark undersides too, but she may be too old for the role.
     
  22. maatTheViking

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    I liked Codex Alera more than Dresden, great fantasy. Seems like we have similar tastes, thanks for your recommendations.
     
  23. flyingsit

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    I believe that Reese Witherspoon bought the movie rights. She is capable of portraying the utter self-centeredness of the character (remember Election?) but I think that audiences don't like her in that kind of role anymore.
     
  24. rfisher

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    On my way to the bookstore to get JKR's new adult book. I could get it fast on my Nook, but I want the HC. She did an interview with GMA and talked about the book some, but the best part is she said she thought she'd be finished with Harry, but she doesn't think she is. Adult Harry would be so awesome. Bring back a new evil doer and let Harry at 'em.
     
  25. galaxygirl

    galaxygirl Ma name's Beckeh

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    That would be awesome! :cheer2:
     
  26. Artemis@BC

    Artemis@BC Well-Known Member

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    My info says it's released tomorrow. (Previously the pub date had been Sept 30.)
    Hope you don't have a wasted journey ...

    I'm #1 in my library queue for it, so I'm hopeful I'll have my hands on it by the end of the week.
     
  27. Nan

    Nan Just me

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    I enjoyed the first six (or so) of the Sookie Stackhouse books. They were quirky and fun, but somewhere along the line, they got a little too over the top for me. YMMV. :)
     
  28. Artemis@BC

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    As we've discussed Reece Witherspoon has the movie rights -- and I think she'd do an amazing job in that part. I don't think Johannson or Adams would be right for it. I've never seen Johannson be able to pull off charming, and when Adams tries to do dark it's completely unconvincing. If not Witherspoon ... how about Jessica Chastain? She's so incredibly versatile, she could do all the layers in this character.

    Rachel McAdams is another possibility. She has more acting chops than her recent roles have demonstrated.
     
  29. NancyNC

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    I have read this but can't remember the details. I generally like this series (not as much as her Joe Sandilands books). I'm a little OCD about reading series in chronological order and this isn't the first in the series (but maybe you have already read the first one or maybe you aren't OCD like me and don't care :lol: ).
     
  30. Prancer

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    I don't think everyone hates the book; it does tend to be kind of polarizing and I think there is a reason for that.

    See what you think. My prediction is that you won't hate it, but we'll see.

    I have never, ever managed to get to be #1 on a library waiting list :wuzrobbed.

    Geography professor has given us two more books to read--Imperial Hubris: Why the West is Losing the War on Terror and another one I can't find (and so assume that he had the title wrong). And I would read them, too, if I didn't have so much geography homework to do.:mad:
     
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