Big Brother US (Season 15)

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by Fridge_Break, Jun 21, 2013.

  1. my little pony

    my little pony snarking for AZE

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    she doesnt come off as an underdog to me at all. plus, i think she is as dislikable most of her other housemates. but not too many of them are getting enough airtime to generate any votes. i'm sure it is accidental.
  2. Catherine M

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    Jeremy won the veto competition so Elissa will have to do another nomination as if the MVP nom wins veto, its the MVP making the new nom, not HOH.

    I guess she'll go with Nick but I can see Kaitlin or Gina Marie going up too. Will be interesting to see what she does.

    Edited to add that it looks like Nick agreed not to try too hard for POV so Elissa just said she will honor the deal and not put him up.

    Wonder if she does put up Kaitlin if the MC will make a move to weaken Jeremy and Aaryn?!?
  3. Fridge_Break

    Fridge_Break Well-Known Member

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    Haven't weighed in since the season started --

    Firstly, I rather like the MVP twist, but I absolutely HATE that it is by fan/producer vote, especially in a season with stunt casting. No freaking surprise that Elissa has it, and that she will continue to get it until she is ousted (hopefully sooner than later). I like the added dimension of strategy involved with the twist, however.

    Elissa is a complete clone of Rachel, and anyone who didn't see it within 5 minutes is a complete idiot. How she thought she could keep it under wraps without anyone ever figuring it out is pretty idiotic, too.

    Other houseguests -- most I really do not like so far. Aaryn reminds me of a dumber Daniele Donato. McCrae is a terrible social player. Most of the Moving Company annoys me, and the only delight that I have out of the group is that the big alliances made on day 1 almost never, ever, make it to the end of the game intact. I can't wait until they all start to say that Andy and Kaitlin are now the 'biggest threats' in the house and everyone else sniffs out that all the beef guys are together.

    Mr. FB's friend is good friends with Andy, so I kind of like him. He hasn't been too annoying, yet. Everyone else either runs together or is meh. I have hope that the cast will mesh a bit better as the season goes on.

    Amanda's DR's make me laugh.
  4. Catherine M

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    Looks like Elissa is going to put up Kaitlin.

    Will be interesting to see if some of the moving company think its a good idea to get rid of Kaitlin this week or not. Might be too early to make that kind of move but you never know.
  5. jamesy

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    :lol: at notRachel being considered an underdog

    If she's voted out this week I will be surprised if AG doesn't somehow Pandora's Box her back into the house.
  6. PeterG

    PeterG Argle-Bargle-ist

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    When the majority of the house is out to get you since the show began...doesn't that make one an underdog?
  7. my little pony

    my little pony snarking for AZE

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    if you have one friend and it is AG, you dont need any others
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  8. PeterG

    PeterG Argle-Bargle-ist

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    can we table this 'til next Friday?
  9. Habs

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    I still can't tell Amanda and Kaitlin apart. :shuffle:
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  10. mysticchic

    mysticchic Well-Known Member

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    Who is the annoying girl that is doing all the talking? OMG she needs to go!
  11. Catherine M

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    Its going to be a long, long five days to eviction night as everyone seems crazy right. More than usual.

    At least Candice has gotten Aaryn to think about the possibility of an all guy alliance but unfortunately since Aaryn is a stupid racist b*tch, I don't that will go anywhere as she hates Candice on a personal level. If only Amanda wasn't all about McCrae's golden manhood and would think about working with Candice/Helen/Elissa, maybe the girls could get something going to counter the brigade 2.0 but I'm not holding my breath or anything.

    The best hope for a house shakeup right now is for Candice to win HOH on Thursday night and since she's a horrible athlete it has to be a Q&A. If not, Jeremy/McCrae will win again.
  12. Catherine M

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    One more thing that is hampering Candice getting an all girl alliance going is that Helen thinks that her "outsider" alliance of her/Spencer/Howard/Judd/Andy/McCrae/Amanda is real. Its only real in her and Andy's minds. Oh well.
  13. haribobo

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    Is the Moving Company still a real thing at this point? Last night Howard was talking to Elissa suggesting that her best move would be to put up Nick. So is MC just Sp/How/Jer/McPizza? Basically it seems that everyone except Gina Marie, Judd, Nick, and Elissa are in at least 2 alliances which are kind of "if Z happens, then I will roll with X". Helen's got her 5 of Spencer, Howard, Andy, and they are hoping McDominos sans Amanda. Andy's got a little side friendship with Kaitlin which probably amounts to nothing. Amanda and McSbarro have been spending a good amount of time with Jer and Aaryn but neither side of those duos seems to know where they stand with one another. Then there's the theoretical group of 7 which I guess are everyone who voted to save Elissa minus Nick, plus McPapaJohns. And Helen's got her little friendship with Elissa which people try to rope Candice into because she shares the have not room with them, but nobody wants anything to do with Candice or Jessie. Its hysterical how everyone pits everything on Candice, but she really is a terrible player and kind of deserves it.

    Even watching the live feeds, its incredibly difficult to figure out where everyone stands. At times it seems like Aaryn is ready to dump her 3way alliance and go elsewhere. And Helen is essentially threatening Sp/How that she will go over to the dark side (Jer/Aar/GM/Kaitlin) if they aren't good to her. But Helen wants to keep Elissa whereas the rest of the group is all over the map on that. Tough choice for Elissa to put up Nick or Kaitlin, although in reality she might have a better shot of dumping Amanda than either of those. People can't stop talking about getting rid of Amanda, but Elissa is always left out of those conversations.

    Anyway this is how I'm guessing right now, but tell me what you think
    Kaitlin vs. Elissa
    Dump K- I guess- Amanda, McPizza, Andy, Judd, Spencer, Howard, Candice? But all those could theoretically flip
    Dump E- Jeremy, Gina Marie, Jessie?, Nick?

    Nick vs. Elissa
    I really have no idea

    Amanda vs. Elissa
    Dump A- Spencer, Howard
    Dump E- Jeremy, GM, McPizza

    Oh, I don't know, this is a lot of work.
  14. Catherine M

    Catherine M Well-Known Member

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    I need to see a couple more days of the feeds to get a feel how Thursday's votes will go. Someone could go off and flip the house in a moment's notice.

    Right now I think The moving company is still solid. They do all have side alliances but as of right now those look like they are "fake".

    McCrae might break with them first if the others target his girlfriend Amanda but even then he might be willing to dump her if he feels staying with the other four gets him to the jury phase of the game.

    The other thing that might break up the Moving company is Jeremy's ego.

    Aaryn had a interesting talk last night with Judd of all people where she was promoting a final 2 deal between them. Not sure if she's serious and looking for a new guy in her life. Got to be killing her that Jeremy is with Kaitlin and she doesn't have a showmance anymore. So that will be something to follow in the coming days, what Aaryn does about the lack of a guy. Does she go with Judd? Break up Kaitlin & Jeremy so she can have the Alpha male!?
  15. Catherine M

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    I'm actually kinda shocked that CBS decided to show Aaryn's greatest racist remarks on the broadcast show. Its just a shame that Kaitlin, Gina Marie, Jeremy and Spencer were mostly left out of it.

    And Great touch to have Howard and Amanda be the narrators.
  16. PeterG

    PeterG Argle-Bargle-ist

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    With the ganging up on Elissa and CBS's not showing the racism and homophobia helped me decide I was done with this season. JUST WHEN I THOUGHT I WAS OUT...THEY PULL ME BACK IN!!!!
  17. Catherine M

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    So I turned on the feeds this morning before getting ready to go to work and Nick & Judd are playing pool and Amanda & McCrae are in the hammock. Chit chat back and forth by Judd and Nick about life and Amanda pressuring McCrae to keep Elissa but later, when Nick decides he's ready for bed, Judd heads over to the Hammock to talk game. Of course, he thinks McCrae is in his alliance of 7 but we all know he's not so poor Judd just punched his ticket to early evict since he told Amanda with McCrae looking like he wanted to puke that something is up with Spencer & Howard acting shady and always whispering. Spencer earlier in the night had told Howard that Judd was #1 on his list after Elissa left.

    If only Amanda, Candice and Judd could go off for awhile and talk game without anyone else around, they could finally put the pieces of the puzzle together and figure out the moving company. But since Amanda and Candice don't like each other, I don't see this happening and the Moving company will continue on. I guess I need to pick someone from the moving company to root for since they'll be around awhile. Leaning towards Nick as he is decent eye candy and has been very sweet to psycho Gina Marie on the feeds. How he puts up with her hour after hour is beyond me.
  18. Jenny

    Jenny From the Bloc

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    The MC seem to all agree that when they time comes, they will happily dump their side alliances - but I do think Jeremy won't be happy to have his gone so soon, especially when he's getting action at the same time.

    Agree with you that -

    But then again, Jeremy thinks he's such a ladies man that he could probably replace Kaitlin with Aaryn and/or Jessie, as Aaryn seems lost without a man, and by now some of the other men should realize that all they have to do is pay a speck of attention to Jessie and she'll do whatever they want - voting and otherwise.

    I think production hates Jessie - she must've gone on and on in pre-show about how she's always the prettiest girl in the room and all other girls are jealous of her and all boys want her, because the edit is making her look really pathetic (which she is, but they are really laying it on thick).

    It was interesting that Candice and Helen (on the show) seemed so close to figuring it all out - are they not aware of the Brigade? The MC is trying to follow the exact same strategy, and no one sees it? I thought some of these people were fans!

    Honestly these girls deserve to get picked off by the boys - Helen included.
  19. Catherine M

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    Aaryn is starting to make some noise that Kaitlyn needs to go. That's she is a recruit and doesn't deserve to be there. So as as the days go by and David becomes a distant memory, there is the possibility Aaryn will start looking for a new man. She did some mild flirting with Judd yesterday but there is no way he'd hook up with her but then you never know. He might get desperate enough to stay in the game by going to the devil. But I think Aaryn will probably get tired of Jeremy being with Kaitlyn and make a move to oust Kaitlyn.

    Where this leaves poor pitiful Jessie is beyond me. I guess eventually either she'll make a move on Judd or simper off into a corner and lament her lack of a TV boyfriend over and over again. One thing, she's not going any where as the MC see her as a nonentity.



    Helen can't get past her "outsider" alliance so anything Candice says about an all boy alliance, Helen isn't really on board cause she is so sure of her solid relationship with the evil one, Spencer and his lackey, Howard.
  20. Jenny

    Jenny From the Bloc

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    Spencer's employer has now issued a statement - note reference to collective bargaining agreement so it's not as easy as it's been for Aaryn's and GinaMarie's employers to do something as well as say something.
  21. Catherine M

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    I'll be shocked if Spencer looses his job for the racist stuff he has said. Railroad worker unions are very powerful still. they'll probably make him go to some sensitivity seminar and he'll be back driving trains. Probably more worrisome to the company is his admission that he uses pot. That's a big no no in the railway world. He's already been to rehab once so he could be in trouble for that than what is coming out of his mouth about gays, blacks and Hitler.
  22. Jenny

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    Agree - and might be more than pot. Hamsterwatch has a quote of a conversation between him and Andy, when Andy says he's never tried cocaine. Spencer says he should - hardly an admission of use, but still surprising that someone in a union job would be speaking openly about drug use like that.
  23. Catherine M

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    Couple more things from the feeds last night:

    1. Amanda got bored and walked around topless till McCrae made her stop. Well she did have bandaid pasties on. Guess she wanted show off her implants! Wonder if they are new!!?

    2. Jessie got in the act and made a comment about "all jews are loaded" or something like that when talking about Amanda's perceived wealth. I guess CBS can changed her tag to "really unemployed now" since there is no job for her to loose.

    So the only ones that have a clue not to say anything that you will regret seem to be Judd, Amanda, McCrae, Andy, Candice, Helen and Elissa.
  24. Jenny

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    Read about the pasties and Amanda getting all the girls to dress sexy and put on a show for the boys - even Helen joined in. :wall:

    At this point I want the MC to succeed if only because these women are all so bloody stupid.
  25. PeterG

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    I hadn't heard anything about Spencer saying anything appropriate, so I did some googling:

    Spencer said that the medical torture conducted by Nazi doctors was beneficial and praised Hitler’s speaking abilities, even while acknowledging that he’d be criticized for that.

    Spencer referred to women as “c*nts.” (my asterisk...should I have used more??)

    Spencer called Andy “Kermit the fag”

    That's all that I've found. Various sites just keep repeating these three things. Maybe this is it? (Which is enough, of course!)
  26. Catherine M

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    Spencer is so annoying on the feeds that I ignore what ever is coming out of his mouth so I can't can't say for sure if that's all or not for his greatest hits.


    POV ceremony just took place. Jeremy is off and Nick is up. Will be interesting to see how Spencer/Howard/McCrae try to hide their vote for Nick to stay over Elissa when their faux alliance wants her to stay. They'll probably try to blame the switch votes on Candice and Judd but Amanda had an interesting talk with Helen this morning so I don't see how that's going to work. We'll see.

    Speaking of Candice and Judd, Helen told Candice last night that she needs to "seduce" him to make sure he's with them or something like that. So this morning, Candice is wearing Judd's special bear shirt so I guess Judd will be getting some attention for Candice. A Judd/Candice showmance is one that I would actually enjoy and one that would not make me want to poke out my eyes!
  27. AliasJohnDoe

    AliasJohnDoe Spin Alissa Spin!!!

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    If Elissa nominated Kaitlin, Elissa had a chance of staying in the house. Nominating Nick just sealed her fate of leaving on Thursday. :(
  28. Jenny

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    If she's going to play that stupid then she deserves to go home.
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    Maybe her sister will show up with the Diamond Power of Rachel to save her on Thursday.
  30. Catherine M

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    Just from watching the feeds, I think Elissa is ready to go home and I'll be surprised if she would agree to come back under some super duper POV. I guess we'll see how it all plays out in the coming weeks.

    Baring a great edit by Candice on Wednesday/Thursday, I'm expecting the MVP to come down to Helen vs Nick vs McCrae.
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    Chenbot addressed the controversy on The Talk today, stating that CBS aired the comments because they are having a direct impact on the game.
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  32. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    I watched about 20 minutes of the show last night and spent some time getting caught up - it's been 2-3 years since I watched BB and this lot is across the board hideous! :wideeyes: But PML x infinity, that is so clearly Rachel's sister. Are they twins? Elissa's expressions would be exactly the same as Rachel's, except her face is completely frozen.

    but I do think she qualifies as underdog in this season, and I'd rather she stay than some of the others. Honestly, the main draw of the season now is to see just how many of them will completely screw up their real lives by what they do on the show :watch:
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    When they are evicted will Julie tell them on live TV "You were fired" or "Your agent dumped you?" :EVILLE:
  34. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    one can only hope. it would help if she also read some online comments from BB fans about how vile the person is :p
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3sIaYUxOLs

    Video link from TWOP - Bigotry link. Really disgusting.
    I am 52 yo, and I can honestly say, I have maybe heard a conversation like these maybe twice in my life. Thank goodness I don't hang out with people like this.
    Just to spite these idiots, I want Andy, Howard, Elissa, Candice and Helen to be the final 5. I understand Howard's comments about not reacting, but that must be so hard to hear this crap over and over. I think I would no longer have a tongue, having bitten it off.
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    After watching the Talk part - glad they discussed it. But it is all Aaryn, not comments by so many others.
  38. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    too much congratulatory chat about CBS' "courage" in airing the footage - especially when there is so much more, and so much worse, out there. I don't doubt that Julie Chen was being sincere when she said how the comments affected her, but cynical me is expecting a major redemption storyline to come out of this. Julie mentioned more than once that Aaryn clearly has "problems"...I read on Hamsterwatch something about Aaryn taking Adderall. Can't help but think there will be a tearful Dr Phil-style confrontation where it will be revealed that Aaryn has ADHD and was taunted as a child, which caused her to lash out at the world and inside she really is a sweet & scared innocent blahblahblah. And I'm guessing none of the others have any sort of easy excuse so they're not getting the bigot storyline now.
  39. AliasJohnDoe

    AliasJohnDoe Spin Alissa Spin!!!

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  40. Catherine M

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    I wonder if the whole bit on the Talk that just singles out Aaryn is the beginning of the end for Aaryn!?! That she'll be removed from the game shortly and made an example of?!? This isn't going to go away as she keeps opening her mouth and spewing out hate filled nonsense with the aid of her minions, Jeremy, Gina Marie and Kaitlin.

    What I'd love to happen on Thursday night is for Julie to call everyone into the lounge and say: "Kaitin, Jeremy, Gina Marie, Spencer, Aaryn go stand to the left. Those on the right, you are safe for the week. The others are all getting a penalty nom for being racist, sexist, homophobic pigs. Oh, and 2 of you have lost your jobs and one is teetering on the verge of being fired. Jeremy, that get out of slop pass is void so you can join the other four as a have not this week too".

    Oh, Candice is a saint. She cooked for the fat pig Spencer last night while she's on slop! I guess she figures they all hate her anyway so maybe her mad cooking skills can buy her a few more weeks in the house.