Big Brother US (Season 15)

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by Fridge_Break, Jun 21, 2013.

  1. professordeb

    professordeb Well-Known Member

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    Can't believe I am rooting for ANYONE related to Rachel. Guess it's a good thing she's referred to here as NotRachel.

    I was hoping for more of a meltdown by Amanda. Too bad. McCrae looked in worse shape than she did -- at least initially. Then the two of them head off to bed to console each other. Have they NEVER watched BB and see how "couples" are almost always broken up -- usually sooner than later. High time Amanda got to see how the rest of the house has felt.
  2. jamesy

    jamesy Well-Known Member

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    Why won't they just hand the win to Amanda? :drama:
  3. Peter_K

    Peter_K Active Member

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    POV ceremony is over.

    McCrae has taken himself off the block.

    and for a 7th time, Spencer is on the block.

    OK. I guess it pretty much looks like Amanda is going to jury but I won't completely believe it until she is being interviewed by Julie.
    (But I do hope she's going to jury :kickass:)

    --Peter
  4. Catherine M

    Catherine M Well-Known Member

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    I'll be shocked if Amanda stays over Spencer. Even if she could get a second vote out of Elissa/Judd/Andy, no way will Gina Marie vote for her stay as the tie breaker, especially after GM has learned that Amanda plans on stealing Nick's blue hat on her way out the door. That has pissed off GM even more!
  5. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    Ugh! Why not Andy as replacement nom? He needs to do more nervousing (tm).
  6. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    Sorry, y'all....I'm on vaca and have been using my phone for Internet. I think I closed this thread by mistake earlier :shuffle: thank you to the person who let me know.


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  7. jamesy

    jamesy Well-Known Member

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    I just assumed you were an Amanda fan and you locking the thread was your way of saying you were done. :saint:
  8. my little pony

    my little pony snarking for AZE

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  9. Sparks

    Sparks Well-Known Member

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    :rofl:
    *I won't open the thread until you all promise to say nice things about AMANDA!*
  10. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    That just doesn't make any sense!!

    :p
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  11. Lacey

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    OK, so McCrae does have some brains after all. But please don't let him win because Amanda did all of the nasty hard work. Hopefully, he's next after Amanda. Oh wait, did I read somewhere that it is double elimination this week?
  12. Peter_K

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    Yes, Thursday is a double eviction.

    It looks like the gerbils have figured out that it will be this week. There's already talk about Elisa being the next target.

    And it looks like Amanda has pretty much accepted her fate. Lets just hope the meds don't fail her -- at least until she gets to the Jury house. :)

    Interesting to note that this season was supposed to be the one where no floater would survive. Let's see:

    -McCrae started strong but basically wound up floating latched to Amanda
    -Andy was the ultimate social butterfly in the game.
    -Spencer. Enough Said.

    Yes, I know Judd, GM and Elisa are still in it, but if things align just right, it's entirely possible you might have an all-floater finale.
  13. Jenny

    Jenny From the Bloc

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    I wouldn't call Andy a floater. To me, a floater is someone who isn't really playing the game - just riding along letting everyone else make decisions and make moves, going with the house on votes, not aligning with anyone.

    Andy had a very strong alliance for most of the game, and then has smartly switched alliances at the right time, and so far is completely loyal to them. As part of each alliance, he has worked hard to keep information flowing in the right direction, and has smartly worked hard to ensure that he is safe no matter who is HOH, and to get jury votes. Whether it all works is another story, but IMO he has been playing hard all summer, and definitely not floating.

    To me, Candice was more of a typical floater - aside from a few game insights that she didn't know what to do with, she didn't make any moves at all, didn't form alliances (Howard was social, not strategic), didn't have any sort of strategy, and pretty much slept through the whole thing.
  14. Catherine M

    Catherine M Well-Known Member

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    So what do we think of Elissa's plan to save Amanda?!?

    Too bad for her Andy is 100% with the Exterminators now and blabbed the whole thing to GM, Judd and Spencer. Plus He's not voting out his final 2 Spencer. And Even if production wants to save Amanda, I just don't see a third vote coming from GM or Judd at this point. Judd hates production and GM seems to have her own mind.

    The only way this would have worked is if the other person next to Amanda had been Judd.
  15. BigB08822

    BigB08822 Well-Known Member

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    Why does Elissa suddenly want to save Amanda? This is so hard I comprehend right now.
  16. Catherine M

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    Cause she went to the diary room and right after she got out, she's making plans with McCranda to save Amanda. Even Judd pointed out how suspicious it all was that right after she went there that she comes out with this big plan.

    I do have to admit that Elissa did try to make an "official" final 3 with GM and Judd but since both are part of the exterminators, she didn't get anywhere so it probably didn't take much for production to push her over to McCranda. Unless something major happens with the 3rd vote, Amanda is still leaving but Elissa might have bought herself some time with McCrae.
  17. Jenny

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    That is simply bizarre. What kind of explanation is Elissa giving people for supporting this plan?

    No one is interested in keeping Amanda except McCrae, and it's not like there's any need to get rid of Spencer either.
  18. Catherine M

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    The only person she has talked to about the plan besides McCranda is Andy and all he did was run over to his real alliance and out the plan. When GM tried to talk to her about it, she lied.

    Elissa had a huge target on her back anyway but doing this just makes it even bigger so I don't understand why she was willing to listen to production. I guess she really thought that Andy was still with McCranda when she agreed to do so. That She really thought she'd be making a final four with McCranda and Andy when in fact Andy already has a final four with the others and is sticking to them cause he wants to go to the finals with Spencer.
  19. Catherine M

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    One more thing. When GM found out about the plan, she went nuts. She even said some nasty stuff about Elissa's son, about looking like a dirty Puerto Rican. Thankfully, Judd was there and he said "don't talk about her kid like that" or something similar. Good for Judd not to just sit there and actually speak up about how saying that was totally wrong on GM's part.

    So back to not rooting for GM to win. I just can't past what a vile creature she really is.
  20. Jenny

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    Even if Elissa thought that Andy was still with McCranda, why would she want to align with them as a fourth wheel? Or as a definitely third because everyone knows McCranda will choose each other over anyone else. She's been making friends with GM and Judd, and at one point at least, I thought that she thought she was in an alliance with them and Spencer? I know they might have been stringing her along while she was HOH and they weren't sure about Andy, but she can't know that.

    Plus obviously there is the very rocky recent history with Amanda that is just making this complete nonsense. It does sound like DR influenced her, but why would they bother? I know there is a longstanding theory that Amanda is friends with Grodner or others, but I never bought that - especially once they started completely throwing her under the bus on the show. They've made her look really bad.

    And what kind of idiot is Elissa that DR could talk her into this? Five minutes ago she hated Amanda!
  21. jamesy

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    Voting out Spencer keeps their Amanda vs Elissa storyline going and I can see notRachel falling for the whole "keeping them keeps the target off you" nonsense. If it's true, though, it's kind of desperate and really doesn't make sense, since they would need someone else besides Elissa to switch back over.
  22. BigB08822

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    This seems so fishy. Elissa stood her ground better than anyone when trying to take out Amanda last week. What could DR do to change all of that? I wonder if $$ is involved. One day someone is going to dish on all the behind the scenes crap.
  23. PeterG

    PeterG Argle-Bargle-ist

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    My guess is that Elissa has figured out that there is a voting block of four which she is not a part of? And that she needs to target a foursome much more than focus on a twosome. Smart lady! :respec:

    That's like if you brought me a pizza at every meal time and I ate it and then you got blamed for making me so FAT! :lol:
  24. AliasJohnDoe

    AliasJohnDoe Spin Alissa Spin!!!

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  25. Catherine M

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  26. Catherine M

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    The feeds are really good tonight, which is a surprise as usually by this part of the season I'm bored and wanting it all to end.

    This little gem came up earlier about how Elissa is now working with McCranda and gave them her diamond wedding ring as proof she's voting out Spencer:

    Elissa: Do you think Andy told them?

    Amanda: Nope, Absolutely no way


    Me: hahahahahhhahahaha, if they only knew that Andy told them (GM, Spencer, Judd) like 30 seconds after he found out.


    Good stuff.
  27. Sparks

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    I'm watching too. Amanda is very delusional.
  28. Lacey

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    Surely Elissa might be throwing a decoy? She can't be that stupid.
  29. BigB08822

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    Amanda and Elissa are having heart to hearts on the hammock. Elissa! You go from my favorite to a total pushover. She can leave right after Amanda, for all I care. :wuzrobbed

    ETA: Unless Elissa does the most awesome thing EVER and decides to cast her vote in front of Amanda and evicts her. That would get me back on board. This could all be the greatest blindside ever, just for her own entertainment. I know, I am setting myself up for horrible disappointment.
  30. haribobo

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    This isn't about Elissa being a pushover- its more about her putting aside feelings in the interest of trying to make smart game moves. The problem is that we are seeing Andy's DR sessions and Elissa, Amanda, and McCrae aren't. Elissa actually seemed to have caught on to the fact Andy is shady, so its strange she's decided she can trust that he's on their side, but she also knows that she's not part of the main alliance left in the house and needs someone who will be loyal. She pretty much had Judd and GM the week that she was HoH, but she seems to lack the organizing capabilities to get people who are on her side into a steady alliance- and also makes people feel uneasy by questioning their loyalty- and if/when she loses this game, that will be the main reason. Anyway, for where she is at now, this isn't a bad game move, but she will find out that Andy and GM are against her on Thursday. Both McCrae and Elissa find themselves in must-win situations for the double eviction episode. I assume she will put up Andy and Spencer if she wins HoH. McCrae, not knowing whether Andy or Elissa betrayed him, would have a tough time figuring out who to put up, I think. A Judd, Andy, Spencer, or GM HOH would probably result in Elissa and McCrae going up- although I'm sure Andy will try very hard not to win since he wants to hang on to all his alliances til the last possible moment.
  31. Catherine M

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    Today should be an interesting day as McCrae is starting to wonder if Andy really is with them or not. When he spoke to Amanda about his worries, she was very firm in her belief that Andy will be voting for her to stay.

    So lets see if Andy can keep the ruse going 36 more hours and send Amanda off to jury with help from GM and Judd.

    Speaking of Judd, I'm starting to think he is nuts. Really nuts. The ranting he did last night about the diary room was pretty intense. I guess they have been putting the heat on him to be the 3rd vote to save Amanda and he wants no part of it.
  32. Jenny

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    Good for Judd if he's standing his ground - he has also made repeated references on the feeds to Elissa suddenly coming up with this plan to save Amanda immediately following a DR.

    I still don't get the hatred about Andy all over the internet. He's lying, he's playing more than one side, he's passing information around, he's betraying ... um, he's playing Big Brother! I don't see how his gameplay is any different than countless others, including the people he's playing with right now. Every one of them has done exactly the same things.
  33. Catherine M

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    I don't get the Andy hate at all either, Jenny. I don't think he has one "fan" over at Sucks.

    Even though he had flipped on McCranda, they didn't know that and kept him over Aaryn. For me, That's good game playing.

    Since the people I like the most--Candice and Jessie--are off in jury land, I really wouldn't mind if Andy wins this. He should be ok during the double eviction as he has Judd/Spencer wanting McCrae/Elissa nominated and McCrae/Elissa wanting GM/Judd nominated. Even if he is nominated by Elissa/McCrae against Judd, he would be saved by Spencer/GM.
  34. Jenny

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    Exactly - he's actually playing rather well. Sure, he's doing things that in RL would not be nice, but it's a game and they are all playing it. If anything he's more loyal than most.

    He actually seems like a nice guy, and my bet is that once they get over being played by him, they'll all be friends with him when this is over.
  35. Catherine M

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    Andy and Spencer are already making plans for getting together and hanging out post show so I think he will have friends with his fellow cast mates post show, especially among Spencer, Judd and GM as the Exterminators seem to really like each other. Well as much as one can like each other before they have to stab each other in the back for a chance at the cash!

    And Andy's loyalty to Amanda saved her those two times she was up on the block against first Howard, then Candice as I think Helen would have made the move to get rid of Amanda but she wouldn't do so without Andy's consent.
  36. Sparks

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    What did Judd do/say? Sorry, I was out of the loop yesterday.
  37. Catherine M

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    He was very, very, very upset about how the "ghosts" are trying to control things. Ghosts is his nickname for the producers he and the others interact with in the diary room. At one point he kept flipping the bird at the cameras.

    As a superfan, I'm sure he knows about diary room rigging in the past but I guess when faced with it, he just hasn't been able to deal with it all that well. Judd has alot of problems with his anxiety and other issues that probably doesn't make him the best candidate for this show. And I think also he liked Elissa on a personal level but once he heard from Andy that she had flipped over to Amanda who he loathes, that made things even worse with him being upset at the diary room for interfering.
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    PeterG Argle-Bargle-ist

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    I sure hope there's no BFF relationship between Andy and the guy who laughed while calling him Kermit The Fag. Self-loathing gays are SO 90's...
  40. merrywidow

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    I don't think any of these people deserve to win BB. The lucky contestants were actually the ones voted out early & I bet by now they're glad they did get out before anything they did or said hit the fan.