Best spinners in skating

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  1. centerstage01

    centerstage01 Well-Known Member

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    Inspired by the spirals thread, who do you consider the best spinners? Any discipline is up for discussion.

    Looking for speed, centering, flexibility, and (seeming) ease.

    Loved this program from Lucinda Ruh. (And I think it would be perfect if Alissa Czisny would skate to this music. It seems tailor made for the two best ladies spinners in the sport.)
  2. l'etoile

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    Aside from Ruh, I can't think of anyone better than Czisny. Mirai's spins used to blow me away but lately I think she should find her mojo again.

    Oh, oh, oh! You can't also rule out Stephan Lambiel and we all know why ;)
  3. iarispiralllyof

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    lucinda ruh, stephane lambiel, sasha cohen, mirai nagasu, caroline zhang and alissa czisny

    mao asada has beautiful positions but isn't very fast

    btw, that lucinda ruh program in the first post features at the end my favorite scratch spin ever. seriously! I wish COP would change so that scratch spins would be worthy of inclusion again, and they could still garner points as long as the skaters could execute them with amazing speed and centering. they have always been (imo) one of the most amazing elements of figure skating, especially as an ending move when the music swells toward the end.

    and I love lucinda's freaky head move at the end of her scratch spin :p it almost brings to mind a sped up version of linda blair in the exorcist
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    I can't believe I left out Sasha :yikes:
  5. Vagabond

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    In other words, Ronnie Robertson. :cool:

    (If you aren't a North American of a certain age, I encourage you to watch the whole video. It is a fascinating glimpse into the past. ;) )

    Until Lucinda Ruh established herself as the greatest spinner of all time, Scott Davis was considered by many the best since Robertson.

    Others thought it was Nathalie Krieg, shown here as a thirteen-year-old competing at Skate America.

    St├ęphane Lambiel is probably the best since Ruh. Or maybe it's Alissa Czisny. (The spins start at about 2:15 on each of these videos.)

    Here are three skaters who might not be quite on the same level as these five, but they could do some very memorable spins:

    Denise Biellmann shows how it is done.

    We must caution the viewers at home not to try to do what Shawn Sawyer does here. :wideeyes:

    And an up-and-comer, Courtney Hicks. :)
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    Alissa Czisny is actually the very best. This is impressive, the speed, the centering...
    She was thie only one to get big applause from the crowd at last Trophee Bompard for each of her spins.
  10. ks777

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    Lucinda Ruh by far the best spinner.
  11. Ares

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    I'm not a huge fan of the super fast spinners like Lucinda and Alissa. A lot of the time they are going so fast it's hard to truly appreciate the position before they are on to the next one.

    Sasha had the perfect combo of speed and wonderful positions.
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    does this include the fastest spinners ?
    fastest hyperextended i spin would be Julia Lipnitskaya :D

    also for me the best spinner today is Alissa Czisny
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  13. paskatefan

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    Lucinda, Alissa

    Todd, Stephane, Scott Davis
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    Come on guys... We need more votes for Natalie Krieg! Personally I think she's better than Lucinda...
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    Krieg was phenomenal. Wasn't she the one who set a record for spinning for the longest time? My brother has no interest in FS but I remember that he mentioned her as a great spinner when he saw one of the Olympics (98? 2002?) on TV. I saw her program at one Olympics and was hoping to see more of it, but she seemed to disappear from competitions and I did not see her again. I think we are not seeing many votes for her because she is not as familiar as Lucinda, who skated much longer and in the US too (was it with SOI?)
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    At the start of the first clip in gkelly's post, someone (Terry Gannon, I think) says that Krieg did a spin that lasted 3 minutes, 22 seconds. Then the other commentator says that it was in a competitive interpretive program, and most of the program was one spin. I wonder if there's any video of it.
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    ... Courtney? :confused: Her spins are all mediocre minus the one spin she invented, the twicks spin...
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    It was the 1994 Olympics. When two triple jumps were required in the SP starting in 1995, Natalie faded away from the skating world because of her jump inconsistencies. Really a shame cuz her spinning ability was amazing. And Lucinda set the record for most revolutions on one foot (it was something like 110 revolutions). I have no idea who had the record before that.
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    Naomi Nari Nam was a very good spinner. Watch this 1999 US nationals LP, especially toward the end ( start watching at 2:40 for the spins), but the whole program is gorgeous.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S7EEHAM6nU
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    Thanks. Here is her 1994 Oly SP. These days we see the ladies do all of those spins but nobody does a better spin combination than Nathalie did then. She was way ahead of her time.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnoRJ8gZpZU
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    You should read more carefully before you post responses to other posts. ;)
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  24. floskate

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    Well personally I see Ruh as being on a whole other level to Krieg but that's what is so great about such a subjective sport. ;) Also never rated Biellmann beyond her biellmann and its variations. Her sit spins and camel spins were no better than anyone else of her era. Dorothy Hamill would easily be in my top 5. :swoon:
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    Ito was a fantastic spinner. Easy to forget what with all the other pyrotechnics!
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    She was definitely very special. Naomi, Sasha, Yebin Mok, AP McDonough and Bebe Liang were all good spinners.
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    Was NNN coached by Nicks? The similarity to Cohen is just uncanny. Their 2axels are identical as well as how they skate in general. Most of their jump technique was the same.
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    ^ Yes I believe so.
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    I never appreciated Sasha's spins. They looked forced to me. But skating is subjective.

    Who mentioned Scott Davis? :swoon: I think that Dai has some spins to die for too.
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    I'd say Nathalie Krieg, Lucinda Ruh, and Stephane Lambiel in whichever subjective order.

    While Alissa Czisny is a brilliant spinner, the best spinner today, and matches these three Swiss spinners in terms of speed, centering, and (ball park) cleanliness of positions, she has not matched the level of the aforementioned in terms of innovation. The three Swiss spinners were all ahead of their time in terms of their inventive positions and how they used them in their programs.

    Honorable mention to skaters like Sasha, Nakano, Bebe Liang, AP McDonough, and Mirai Nagasu.

    I think in terms of flexibility, no one beats Lipnitskaya and Fleur Maxwell.
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    Yes, they were both coached by Nicks at the same time. NNN's career was cut short due to injuries, or she would have challenged Sasha (and may be even Michelle)
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    Todd Eldredge and Scott Davis, I think, were two of the best American men for spins.

    Fumie Suguri, possibly? (Have to go look for some YT clips.)
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    I thought Scott had a great sit spins, but not a camel.
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    WOW!! This is the first time I see this and I think she spins even faster than Ruh and Czisny! WOW!! Her layback and biellman are extremely fast and well centered.

    For me the top 5 is Ruh, Krieg, Czisny, Lambiel and Cohen.

    Honorable mention: Nakano, Slutskaya, young Zhang and Nagasu, Naomi Nari Nam.

    The worst spin I have probably ever seen was done by Ludmila Nelidina at 2002 SA where she landed a triple axel.
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  38. skatesindreams

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    More about Ronnie Robertson and his spins, from an article in the Los Angeles Times; published after his death in 2000:

    BTW, NASA really wanted to study him because he could spin so fast without becoming dizzy/disoriented. From the obituary in the New York Times:

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    Which begs the question: Are great spinner born or made? Does every skater have a limit of how well they can spin that, regardless of how hard they train, they can't surpass?
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    So sad. I think NNN was even better than Sasha. I remember Sasha even saying NNN was the more talented one in a fluff piece.