Best female skater of the 2000-2010 decade

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by kwanlysacek, Jan 30, 2013.

Best female skater of the 2000s decade

  1. Kim

    135 vote(s)
    44.4%
  2. Slutskaya

    46 vote(s)
    15.1%
  3. Asada

    22 vote(s)
    7.2%
  4. Arakawa

    8 vote(s)
    2.6%
  5. Kwan

    82 vote(s)
    27.0%
  6. Cohen

    11 vote(s)
    3.6%
  1. kwanlysacek

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    The 2000s saw alot of women who won atleast 2 major events:

    Kim- 2010 Olympics, 2009 Worlds, 3 Grand Prix finals, 4 straight World medals
    Kwan- 2002 Olympic bronze, 2001 and 2003 Worlds, 5 straight World medals
    Slutskaya- 2002 Olympic silver, 2006 Olympic bronze, 2 World titles, 3 Grand Prix final titles, 4 overall World medals
    Asada- 2010 Olympics silver, 2 World titles, 3 World medals, 2 Grand Prix final titles
    Arakawa- 2006 Olympic gold, 2004 World gold

    So who was overall the best female skater of the 2000s decade starting with fall of 2000 (the start of the 2000-2001 season) and ending with the 2010 World Championships
     
  2. l'etoile

    l'etoile New Member

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    It's five straight world medals for Kim(2007-2011), NINE straight world medals(1996-2004)and five titles(1996, 98, 2000, 2001, 2003) among them for Michelle Kwan, and three GPF titles for Asada(2005, 2008, 2012).
     
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  3. Robeye

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    Why do I feel a sense of deja vu all over again? ;)
     
  4. os168

    os168 Active Member

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    :D Surprised Ando is not up there on the list, another poller with 0 post history?! *Sighs...* For some reason, AndoLysacek seems to makes more sense than KwanLysacek, but that is just me. :eek:

    Etoile: Yuna also won 3/4 GPF she participated. Mao won 3/7 she entered (not counting 2011 she withdrew), 2 of them she didn't qualify for the finals.

    BTW. Latest news from Asia is that Yuna and Michelle will be performing 'Hero' again at the Special Olympics closing ceremony in S.Korea on Feb 5th. It is well worth missing 4CC for imo, to be able to skate with your own hero on home Olympic ice. This will also mark the first public appearance of Michelle on ice since getting hitched! Whoo hooo!! :) Wonder if Clay likes Korean food! When is the last time Michelle performed in public? I seem to remember it was to some synthetic ice in a mall in Singapore?
     
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  5. blue_idealist

    blue_idealist Well-Known Member

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    Kwan because of all her World championship wins and because I prefer her performances to Yu-Na's.
     
  6. TheIronLady

    TheIronLady New Member

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    It's a tough one for me between Cohen and Mao. I cannot choose.
     
  7. jsfpg2

    jsfpg2 New Member

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    Mao. Huge respect for those 3a she did at Oly 2012.
     
  8. iarispiralllyof

    iarispiralllyof Active Member

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    Toss up between Yuna, Kwan and Slutskaya

    And WHYYYY Hero? It's such a blah program with blah choreography. I love my 90's mariah cheese but for karaoke, not skating!!
     
  9. Katarzyna

    Katarzyna Well-Known Member

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    My vote went to :cheer2: IRINA!!! :cheer2:

    I think Carolina Kostner should be on this poll as a voting option as well! :)
     
  10. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

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    Kostner didnt achieve much of note in the 2000s. One sloppy and undeserved World silver, and one World bronze won by default with a so soish skate in a poor event. Her career really took off the last 2 years, but was nothing that distinguishable before that.

    I am surprised Kwan is leading this poll, but then again I shouldnt be as polls are just popularity contests anyway, rather than objective measures of any kind of reality. Kwan was really only the 5th best skater of the 2000s based on achievements behind all of Kim, Slutskaya, Asada, and Arakawa.
     
  11. cbd1235

    cbd1235 Well-Known Member

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    Achievements eh? Let's just count world and olympic results in the 2000's:

    Kim: World Bronze, World Bronze, World Gold, Olympic Gold, World Silver, World Silver
    Slutskata: World Silver, World Silver, World Gold, Olympic Silver, World Gold, Olympic Bronze
    Kwan: World Gold, World Gold, World Silver, Olympic Bronze, World Gold, World Bronze, World 4th
    Asada: World Silver, World Gold, World 4th, World Gold, Olympic Silver, World 6th, World 6th,
    Arakawa: World 8th, World Gold, World 9th, Olympic Gold

    Yuna has clearly had the superior world/olympic performance of the bunch, and a strong case would be made for Slutskaya having the second best career based on these results (basically due to one extra olympic medal). But Kwan is a clear front-runner compared to Asada and especially Arakawa. I mean look at what Arakawa did in the 2000's apart from her world and olympic gold....not sure how anyone could ever think she had a better 2000's career compared to Kwan. Unless an OGM is worth more than like 5 other olympic and world medals including a couple more world golds.......
     
  12. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

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    The OP seemed to specify the decade starting with the 2000-2001 season, which would exclude the 2000 Worlds. In which case Kwan is clearly the least accomplished of those 5 in the decade, although still more than Cohen.
     
  13. briancoogaert

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    Between Kwan and Kim.
    I'd say YuNa Kim, even if Michelle Kwan is my favorite skater ever.
     
  14. karlon

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    1 yuna kim
    2 michelle kwan
    3 irina Slutskaya
    4 mao asada/Sasha Cohen
    5 arakawa
     
  15. Katarzyna

    Katarzyna Well-Known Member

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    This poll is not (only) about achievements - at least the author of this thread very probably didn't intend to discuss achievements on an isolated basis. Otherwise the title would have been "most successful female skater" and Mikki Ando or Sarah Hughes should have been listed on this poll rather than Sasha Cohen. But they are not! :p
     
  16. cbd1235

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    Okay let's try again:

    Kim: World Bronze, World Bronze, World Gold, Olympic Gold, World Silver, World Silver
    Slutskata: World Silver, World Gold, Olympic Silver, World Gold, Olympic Bronze
    Kwan: World Gold, World Silver, Olympic Bronze, World Gold, World Bronze, World 4th
    Asada: World Silver, World Gold, World 4th, World Gold, Olympic Silver, World 6th, World 6th,
    Arakawa: World 8th, World Gold, World 9th, Olympic Gold

    Do tell how Kwan's 2000 career is inferior to Arakawa's? 1xWorld Gold and 1xOlympic Gold imo does not match 2xWorld Gold, 1x World Silver, 1x World bronze, 1x Olympic Bronze. Arakawa is basically a 2 trick pony (and a good one at that!) Her next highest world placement is 8th......not exactly more successful than Kwan any way you cut the cake.

    Kwan vs. Asada: Both have 2x World Gold in the 2000's, both have 1x World Silver, both have 1x World 4th. Difference is that Asada has 1x Olympic silver and a pair of 6th place finishes. Kwan has 1x World bronze and 1x Olympic silver. Very close call but I'd edge Kwan to #3 based on the extra medal outweighing the silver at Olympics, and Kwan has never finished below 4th at worlds in her 2000's career. 6th is nothing to sneeze at for Mao, but she hasn't put out her best at worlds in a couple years.

    Kwan is clearly the least accomplished of the decade though.....No Way.

    Arakawa is clearly the least accomplished of the decade, OGM or not.
     
  17. Lnt175

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    The poll is very close between Kwan and Kim.
    I have Kim first and Slutskaya, Asada and Kwan tied for second. I think its very close between the three though. We are not counting Kim's 2011 world silver and Asada's '11 and '12 world finishes though. They are saying the 2000's decade ecompasses 2000-2001 season ending with the 2009-2010 season. That is part of the 2010's.
     
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  18. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

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    IMO Asada is clearly ahead. Both have 2 World titles. Asada has a higher Olympic medal. Asada has 2 Grand Prix final titles in the decade to 0 for Kwan, and many more grand prix and international wins. Kwan has 1 more world medal but not nearly enough to overcome all of Mao's other edges. The 6th place finishes for Mao are not in that decade so are irrelevant.

    As for Arakawa it all depends on the value attached to Olympic Gold I guess.
     
  19. cbd1235

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    I would definitely not argue Asada being ahead, that one is basically a judgement call since they're very close.

    Arakawa would be a forgotten skater for the most part had she not won that Olympic Gold, her career apart from her two big wins is less than stellar compared to the big names in this list. I think an Olympic gold certainly means more than a world gold, but I can't see it being worth the equivalent of more than a few world medals. Expecially when her next highest world finish apart from the gold is a meager 8th. The results of the poll speak for themselves on here, she's just not as popular.

    If Arakawa has had a better career than Kwan in the 2000's then maybe Hughes should be on this poll too......her Olympic Gold medal might justify her as having a better 2000's career than Kwan..
     
  20. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

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    Arakawa is basically the female Lysacek. A 2 event wonder and an otherwise very mediocre career. The only difference being atleast her skating is far more spectacular, beautiful, and high quality than his.
     
  21. cbd1235

    cbd1235 Well-Known Member

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    ITA!
     
  22. briancoogaert

    briancoogaert Well-Known Member

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    Without the last sentence, I would have been really shocked by this post. :lol:
     
  23. lala

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    Kim, Kwan, Slutskaya
     
  24. Cachoo

    Cachoo Well-Known Member

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    Do you go with your head or your heart?
     
  25. NYScorp6

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    Sasha for me, I could watch her perform all day.
     
  26. KimGOAT

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    Clearly Slutskaya or Kwan. Didnt the decade start in 2000 and end in 2009 unless I am confused about something. Slutskaya has 2 World titles, 2 Olympic medals, 4 GPF finals in the decade, and Kwan has 3 World titles and 1 Olympic medal. How does Kim who has only 1 World title and 0 Olympic medals this decade lead this poll.
     
  27. wristflick

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    Kim winning this poll is so stupid. These are what each skater achieved in the decade of 2000s:

    -Kwan 3 World titles, 5 World medals, 1 Olympic medal, 0 Champions Finals
    -Kim 1 World title, 3 World medals, 0 Olympic medal, 3 Champions Finals
    -Slutskaya 2 World titles, 4 World medals, 2 Olympic medals, 4 Champions Finals
    -Asada 1 World title, 2 World medals, 0 Olympic medals, 2 Champions Finals

    Slutskaya should be clearly the winner of this poll, yet is third. Kim should be 4th behind Slutskaya, Kwan, and Asada, maybe even behind Cohen and Arakawa, yet is 1st. Makes no sense.
     
  28. Lnt175

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    It seems the confusion is the poster stated the 2010 Olympics and worlds should be included in the 2000's, although in reality they are part of the 2010s decade (current decade). If you include the 2000s (Jan 00-Dec 09) then yes Slutskaya and Kwan are virtually neck and neck.
     
  29. Skater91

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    Sarah Hughes and Miki Ando!

    Why would you leave out Sarah Hughes and Miki Ando!?

    They can both make a strong case for the top spot.
    They are both way more successful than Cohen!
     
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  30. Gabybackhand

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    I am not her biggest fan but I am surprised Slutskaya isnt doing better on a poll of the 2000s decade. She was the most consistent and probably most accomplished skater of the decade. Even if you give Kwan the 2000 World title in the decade Slutskaya has 2 World titles and 2 Olympic medals which is atleast the value of Kwan's 3 World titles and Olympic bronze, and Slutskaya competed and won many more of the smaller events on the circuit this decade too. Kim is more of a 2010s skater than 2000s, she didnt start dominating until 2009, the last year of the decade. Before that her best Worlds was a bronze.

    Why does Sasha have more votes than Shizuka too. Shizuka is a World and Olympic winner and Sasha isnt and Sasha didnt contribute anything special to the sport the way people like Ito, Lynn, and other non winning or non dominant skaters did. Shizuka's 2004 World title performance was better than anything Sasha ever produced, and she was a better competitor since she had many more clean performances in her career than Sasha did.

    Sasha could have been skater of the decade with all the chances she had from 2004-2006 but she blew it.