Best comeback free program after a disastrous short

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  1. Lnt175

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    We had the thread about the worst long after leading the short. What were some memorable comebacks after a nightmare short?

    The first one to come to mind for me was Yu Na Kim at 2010 worlds. Bombing the short, she then came back and had a very good (but not great LP) to win the the free skate and win silver overall.

    Maria Butyrskaya at 1997 Europeans- 9th in the short, then came back to place top 3 in the free to place 4th overall

    Lu Chen at the 1995 Trophee Lalique- placed near dead last in the SP after missing every jump in the SP, she then went on to win the free program and won silver.
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    Laura Lepisto probably had one of the biggest comebacks, placement wise, at 2008 Worlds where she went from 21st in the short to 7th in the long and 8th overall.
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    Gracie Gold at 2013 US Nationals.

    Mao Asada at 2008 GPF.
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    Evan Lysacek 2006 Olympics. He was 10th in the SP; 3rd in the FS; and finished 4th overall.
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    Yuzuru Hanyu had a meh short at 2012 Worlds that left him outside the final group for the long program, but his excellent LP got him on the podium.

    Brian Joubert was 6th at 2008 Worlds after a fall on a 3Lz (and a stupid music deduction), then skated really well in the LP to win silver. In 2011, he was 7th after the SP at Euros but won the LP and a silver medal - his tenth consecutive medal at Euros.

    Volosozhar/Trankov had that awful SP at 2012 Worlds that left them in 8th place, then came back to win the LP and just missed out on winning overall (which some people thought they should have; I disagree because the SP really was bad).
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    At the 2009 winter universiade konstantin menshov went from 25th in the sp to 1st in the LP!
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    Zijun Li at 2013 Worlds. She was 12th in the SP and 4th in the FS, 7th overall
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    Gracie Gold - 2013 US Nationals

    Todd Eldredge - 2002 Olympics

    Elvis Stojko - 1996 Worlds

    Harrison Choate - 9th or 10th in Junior Men @ 2012 US Nationals (short program), finished 4th, and made the US Junior podium with the pewter medal
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    Amodio had a disastrous SP at TEB in 2012 - I think the only clean jump was a doubled lutz which should have actually been a 3lz in combination - and was in 7th, but he won the free and finished 3rd overall. Lambiel also had a great comeback at Skate Canada 2006, moving from 7th after the SP to win the event, but iirc that was as much due to everyone else melting down in the free as to him skating well.
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    Kurt Browning in Lillehammer, as well as Viktor Petrenko
    Plushenko, for his standards, in Salt Lake City
    Lambiel in 2007 Worlds in Japan, he came back brilliantly with the masterpiece that was Poeta
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    Freakin' Liashenko went from 7th to 1st at the 2003 Cup of China. It was one of the first examples of an amazing jump in the stands with COP.

    Alexei Urmanov went from 6th to 1st at the 1997 European Championships. This wild scoring event prompted some changes to the scoring system since the ordinals flipped around so much.
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    Andrei Griazev at the 2006 worlds (even though he did not move up that much in the placements; I thought he deserved higher marks in the LP)

    Mao Asada- was it at the 2007 worlds when she had a poor SP and a great LP that pulled her up to win a silver (Ando won the gold)?

    Midori Ito at the 1992 Olympics. A fall in the SP was disastrous under 6.0, but she skated great in the LP and won the silver.

    Yuka Sato at the 1994 Olympics. After a fall in the SP she was in 7th place but she skated a great LP. Although she did not medal there, she may have set herself up to win the world title the following month.
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    I know a lot of people have hate for the guy but i can't believe no one has mentioned Evan at the Olympics in 2006. He had a bad SP and was 10th then came down with the flu and proceeded to have one of the best skates of the night and finish 4th and almost won a bronze medal. And he skated to Carmen. :lol:
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    See post #4
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    Veronik Mallet went from dead last (18th) after the short program to 1st place by over 5 points in the free skate at Canadian Novice Nationals in 2011, and was less than half a point from winning overall.
    http://skatecanada.ca/en-us/eventsresults/results.aspx

    Emanuel Sandhu went from 7th to 1st overall at Skate Canada 2004, and 6th to 1st in 2005.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Skate_Canada_International
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Skate_Canada_International

    Ashley Wagner was 12th in the SP, 1st in the FS, and pulled up to 4th overall at 2009 U.S. Nationals.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_United_States_Figure_Skating_Championships

    Alexei Urmanov pulled up from 6th after the short to 1st in the FS and overall at 1997 Euros (ETA: Oops, I see Clay already mentioned this one). Zuzanna Szwed was 18th in the SP and 5th in the FS (10th overall) at that competition.

    Richard Dornbush was 17th in the SP and 5th in the free skate at 2012 U.S. Nationals.

    Tara Lipinski was 23rd in the SP and 11th in the free skate (15th overall) at 1996 Worlds.

    Nina Jiang went from 7th in the SP to 1st in the FS and overall as an Intermediate at 2008 U.S. Junior Championships.
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    Elaine Zayak 82 Worlds.
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    As noted, he was mentioned by SkateFan66 in the 4th post.

    Considering the standard of the event, any competent skate would have resulted in a jump in the standings. But it is true that Lysacek was one of the few who kept his nerve and delivered a good performance.
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    Except that it wasn't "disastrous" for Ito. The fact that she was 4th in the SP after a fall on a major element showed that the judges gave her some reputation points.
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    Alena LEONOVA at 2011 EC went from 13th in the short to 3th in the free, ending 5th overall
    Brian JOUBERT at 2011 EC went from 7th in the short to 1th in the free, ending 2th overall
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    This was the first one that came to mind for me because it is such a personal memory. I was a die-hard Elvis fan back in the day and cried my eyes out after his free skate!
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    Janet Lynn was 12th in the short (after finishing second in figures) but won the free skate and took the silver medal at 1973 Worlds.

    Sergei Voronov was in 15th place after the short at 2008 Worlds, was fourth in the free, and pulled up to 7th overall.
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    Elaine Zayak - 1982 Worlds
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    US Nationals 2013 Alexander Johnson was 12th after a meh short program, skated arguably the best free skate of the night, where he came in fifth (I would've had him higher) and finished 7th overall. :)
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    I don't think Z-Li had a disaster at 2013 worlds in her SP, but she did blow the roof off in the LP.

    We should include Czissny at 2009 worlds on this list. Her SP was definitely disastrous, and her LP was the best she's ever done at that point in her career.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIqNbpteais
  26. Verbalgirl77

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    Petrenko at the '94 Olympics stands out as a favorite. So much better than the LP he won gold for! :kickass:
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    I was at those worlds and she skated looking terrified. It was far from her best skate at that point. She skated much better at 2007 nationals, 2005 skate america, 2005 skate canada, 2004 skate america and 2004 regionals.
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    Tomas Verner 2007 Worlds, 9th in SP with a popped axel, 4th in FS (should have been 3rd) with an incredible program, pulled up to 4th overall.
    Adam Rippon 2010 4CCs, 7th in SP, 1st in FS, 1st overall
    Polina Shelepen 2012 JWC, 12th in SP, 4th in FS, 6th overall
    Miki Ando 2010 Worlds, 11th in SP, 3rd in FS, 4th (should have been 3rd) overall
    Ashley Wagner 2009 Nationals, 12th in SP, 1st in the FS, 4th overall
    Yuna Kim 2008 Worlds, 6th in SP, 1st in FS, 3rd overall (could have been 1st or 2nd honestly)
    Polina Korobeynikova 2012 Euros, 12th in FS with 2 falls, 2nd in FS, 4th overall
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    In 2009 Europeans Yannick Ponsero was 9th in the SP and won the LP. KVDP beat him by 0,06 points to get bronze only because he skated in the final group. It was the first time I saw both of them skate live and I was astounded by Ponsero's speed and KVDP's non-speed.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr6Yffpxpls
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  32. robinhood

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    I think it would have been great to put the video links, if available. I'll edit my previous post to include them
    Most of these performances were career best for the skaters
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  34. orientalplane

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    No one could skate if they really had the flu. Flu is a serious illness that kills large numbers of people every year. What he, or his coach, or the commentators meant was that he had a bad cold. So, kudos to him for skating with a bad cold, but it wasn't the flu.

    In major telling the unvarnished truth mood today.
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    Did you run the tests? While people do call colds the flu, not everyone gets a severe case of the flu, and it is shocking what athletes can work through.

    Not the flu, but I did competitive dance through a case of mono, my now husband ended up hospitalized when he had mono. Reactions differ, as does severity of -every- illness.
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    I remember Marie-Claude Savard-Gagnon and Luc Bradet skated with the flu at the '98 Olympics and they were so sick, or at least one of them was, that they had to stop during the performance. I believe that skaters do skate with the flu.. maybe it isn't the most severe flu ever, but it's the flu nonetheless. Now, something like pneumonia, that's another story. Has anyone ever heard of a skater skating with pneumonia? Just curious.
  37. briancoogaert

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    I haven't found it on youtube. But I remember it was pretty good considering her ranking after the SP.
  38. orientalplane

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    I have an old friend who is a hospital consultant. One day he told me a little story to illustrate the difference between a cold and the flu. He said, "Imagine a house with a 100 metre (or yard) drive. Inside the house there's someone in bed with either a bad cold or the flu. There's no one else in the house. At the far end of the drive, someone places an envelope containing £50 (or whatever that converts to in your country's currency) on the ground. This person then walks down the drive, goes into the house and tells the person in bed that at the end of the drive, there's £50 waiting for him. If the person in bed has a bad cold, he will get up, feeling bloody awful, put on a few clothes to make himself decent, and go out to retrieve the envelope. If that person has the flu, he won't go because he can't."

    I'm not a doctor myself, but it's true that this was his illustration. If a person really has the flu, they're pretty well confined to bed for around two weeks. Otherwise it wouldn't be the killer disease that it is. I have another friend who does seem a bit prone to catching colds because of her work environment. She's always phoning me and saying, "I can't do such-and-such because I've got the flu again." She thinks she's had it about six or seven times this year. In reality, she hasn't had it once.
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  39. SkateFan66

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    I am not sure what the exact diagnosis was; however, prior to his free skate at the 2006 World Championship, the commentators mentioned that Lysacek was still taking antibiotics for the illness that he had at the Olympics. Moreover, prior to his free skate at the Olympics, Lysacek was taking IV treatments.

    ETA: Had a chance to watch the video from 2006 WC. The commentators stated Lysacek was taking antibiotics for a bacterial infection.
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  40. PrincessLeppard

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    Antibiotics don't do anything for the flu.