Berezhnaya-Sikharulidze uber thread

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  1. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    (This thread is inspired by Lulu's link to their 'Barcelona' exhibition' in the V&V thread)

    I miss them so much. I have practically all of their performances on tape.

    Here are some of them from youtube.

    Barcelona Ex (posted by Lulu)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AB1icW8rOg&feature=youtu.be

    Barcelona Ex at Goodwill games (1998)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PGqIc_cl4Y&playnext=1&list=PL3BE6FE770B702A4B&feature=results_video

    1999 COI (Impossible dream)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3udRlrt8I7k

    2002 Oly SP (Lady Caliph)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB2lyUWrEcE

    1998 GPF SP (Swan Lake)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49UJxZLtUYM

    1998 GPF LP (Dark Eyes)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUsVK_sbA5M

    2001 COR LP (Citylights)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLpXj6PD9HE

    1999 Worlds SP (Happy Valley)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qzy7VRWwE4

    1999 Ex (Let me be your wings)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6VUULbSaKo

    2001 worlds SP (Meadowland)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3mFOfy_J-Q

    2002 Olympics LP:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_VDRBCOslo

    Color of the night (Pro)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7udaGeUjVk

    Let me fall (Pro)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX-MLnVQMzo



    Carry on.
     
  2. lulu

    lulu New Member

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    Thanks for the thread Vash. :) I copied my comments from the V&V thread:

    I love to gush about B&S too. I so wish I could have seen B&S skate live. :wuzrobbed: I still think Anton S. had the best spiral of probably any male pair skater-such great extension.
    I always wondered how a hypothetical match up between G&G and B&S would have played out. Both teams had excellen basic skating skills. I think B&S had better transitions and choreography and did sbs triple jumps, compared to G&G's double jumps, but G&G were more consistent overall.

    ETA: Their Lady Caliph SP, City Lights & Meditation LPs are my favorite B&S programs. I think in terms of sheer talent B&S were probably the greatest pair team in the sport-JMVHO, YMMV. :) As with Mishkutenok & Dmitriev, B&S had great versatility as performers.
     
  3. Whitneyskates

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    Their Lady Caliph sp is my favorite pairs sp of all time. :swoon:
     
  4. lulu

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    Igor Borbin & Tamara Moskvina choreographed that routine. Borbin also helped choreograph City Lights and Meditation.
     
  5. shan

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  6. Katarzyna

    Katarzyna Well-Known Member

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    Vash01 - thank you so much for starting this thread and the video links. I too looooove B/S and I consider myself very lucky, cause I was blessed that I could watch them live a couple of times even though they then already retired from eligible competitions. Still they were magical! :swoon:
     
  7. Grannyfan

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    I love this pair and miss them so much. I was fortunate enough to see them skate at the GPF in Kitchener prior to the 2002 Olympics. Those were the days when skaters did two long programs, so we got to see the City Lights program as well as the brand new Meditation. I loved the costumes they wore for it; a sort of light salmon color and very, very simple. As far as I know, they never wore them again. I saw them a couple of times in Stars on Ice as well. Loved their Kalinka and Let Me Fall programs.

    In my opinion, they're the most beautiful skaters ever. Today's pairs, even the best ones, seem so sloppy by comparison.
     
  8. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    Here is their SP at the 2002 GPF:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB73WdJcsQQ

    and the debut of Meditation. They had one major mistake, so they could not win, but you already see the potential of this program.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NGOODNMbkE
     
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  9. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    I went over my records to see how many times I saw them skate live- Thirteen times! I am so lucky.

    1998 COI - Barcelona
    1999 COI- Impossible dream
    2000 COI- Smooth
    2001 worlds- Citylights LP
    2001 COI- The kid
    2002 Oly- Lady Caliph SP
    2002 Oly- Meditation LP
    2002 Sun Valley- The kid and Meditation
    2002 SOI- Elvis & Marilyn
    2003(?) Valentine's day in Tucson - Elvis & Marilyn and Meditation
    2004(?) SOI- Let me fall
    2005(?) SOI- If I could
    2006(?)SOI- You are so beautiful (it was the last time I saw them skate live)
     
  10. Cloudy_Gumdrops

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    Gods I love them. I think they're the most amazing pair ever (both they and M&D are better than G&G imo) and I can't imagine them ever being surpassed as my faves.

    Lady Caliph is amazing, but I preferred Meadowland as far as their short programs go. Valse Sentimentale is my favorite pairs LP ever.

    I really miss them. And I think Moskvina does too. I'm convinced that the programs she creates for K&S are envisioned with Elena & Anton in mind. That's how I explain away the fact that those programs never fit the type of skaters K&S are.
     
  11. lulu

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    Vash, How wonderful for you. :) What is your favorite B&S performance out of the ones you've seen live?
     
  12. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    This is practically impossible to answer.

    Lady Caliph is the best pairs SP ever IMO, and I was so thrilled for them, but I was very nervous also. I was both happy and relieved when they finished. I was able to enjoy the skate more when I watched it on tape later.

    I think I really enjoyed 'Impossible dream' with COI, and 'Meditation' at the Valentine's day show.

    One performance will always stand in my memory as totally mesmerizing, and that is (surprise!)- 'If I could' with SOI. As I recall, the whole arena was quiet during their skate, and it was so beautiful. I felt like I was on another plane. It was awesome.
     
  13. judgejudy27

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    They are probably my favorite pair team ever. Their effortless and yet enormous speed and flow over the ice, their understated elegance, their big technical elements, their gorgeous positions and lines, their ability to interpret different types of music so beautifully.
     
  14. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    A few quotes about them:

    "The elegance of this pair is mind boggling"- Dick Button (at 2002 GPF)

    "They both are magnificent skaters"- Dorothy Hamill (at 1998 GPF)

    "I never thought I would see a pair that skates as fast as Rodnina-Zaitsev, but these two do"- Peter Carruthers at a 1997-1998 GP (I think it was the one in Germany)

    (about their death spiral into another move at 2001 COR)- "This shows mastery over the blade"- Suzie Wynn
     
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    The amazing thing is they were as fast or I dare say even faster than Rodnina & Zaitsev, but they did it with such effortless, they barely had to push to gain the speed, and with soft and lyrical edges. Gordeeva & Grinkov were similar in their effortlessless in still garnering huge speed but they were not quite as fast as B&S (or the very agressive R&Z).
     
  16. Whitneyskates

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    They were an exquisite pair on the ice. I always loved how they were able to seamlessly combine elegance and rifinement with power and athleticism. I also thought they were a very balanced pair. One didn't outshine the other, he presented her beautifly, but they were equals in terms of presence on the ice.
     
  17. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    They belonged to the very few extraordninary special skaters who not only skated great programmes in view of technique and artistry, but they also managed to create a special atmosphere which stays with you even if you saw them skating years ago, but once you just hear the music of one of their programmes e.g. on Radio or TV you get that special feeling again. :swoon:
     
  19. judgejudy27

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    I think this was the season they really began to branch out their artistic styles alot more, and wanting to experiment with new themes. Their programs the first 3 seasons while all beautiful, and somewhat unique from one another, all had essentialy the same style of skating. I think alot of that as Moskinva's plan for the early years until they got their consistency down being a relatively new pair still. They really began to challenge themselves more with their 2000 programs, especialy their short program, and continued to evolve from there, especialy with their Chaplin program. The choreography of that short program was so unbelievably intricate, and I think that coupled with some of their off ice problems was why they struggled with consistency with it early on, but they finally skated it cleanly at that years GP final and it was great.
     
  20. blancanieves

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    Yes. I have to say though, it takes a pretty special male partner to be able to garner as much attention as the female in the team. The nature of the leader/follower relationship tends to emphasize the woman's role. Anton was quite a spectacular partner.
     
  21. lulu

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    I couldn't have said it any better. :)

    They really were so well balanced as skaters. I'm enamored with their City Lights LP. Evidently, they watched Charlie Chaplin films-and it showed. I thought Anton did a great job getting Chaplin's mannerisms down pat for the opening sequence of the routine.


    It's great you got to see such a wide range of their performances over the years. I would have loved to have seen Lady Caliph in person. :swoon:

    Thanks for mentioning Valse Sentimentale, that was a beautiful program. For those who haven't seen the program: http://youtu.be/DjTIf21db4o

    I just wanted to give a :cheer: to the M&D shout out as well. :)
    I think Moskvina was and still is, fabulous. She has created some wonderful programs (and occasionally some not so wonderful programs) for all of her pairs, but I think overall, her programs for M&D and B&S were her best work. Food for thought about K&S, I never really thought about it that way. :)
     
  22. kittyjake5

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    Thanks Vash for the video clips, lovely trip down memory lane. Elena and Antone's Olympic LP is the best pairs performance ever.
    The way their elements were interwoven with their superb artistry and seamless flow across the ice was not only amazing but
    technically very difficult. It was spellbinding then and even after all these years watching that performance it still is.

    I love all of their programs, competitive and pro. It is hard for me to pick a favorite.
     
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  23. shan

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  24. lulu

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    Thanks for the clip. :cheer: I don't think Anton is skating much these days, if at all, but I'm glad we occasionally get to see Elena skate.

    ETA: Elena was also on CBC's "Battle of the Blades" Here are some of her programs with partner Curtis Leschyshyn:
    "Animal" http://youtu.be/GHjEHAshao0
    "Hello" http://youtu.be/z7xBkjoqews
    "Give Me Everything" http://youtu.be/OT4QN1KZyeU
     
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  25. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    Sorry, but I started the thread to talk about Elena & Anton, not about Elena and xxx. I don't care for that kind of skating, and I don't care to see Elena (or any top skater) in silly shows. I stay away from those. I am a purist when it comes to figure skating.
     
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  26. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    I too love Valse Sentimentale, with its continuous flow on the ice. They were ethereal. They never skated it to its full potential, although they came close at the 2001 GPF, although the judges placed them lower than S&P who had a fall. The politics really took over at that point. In 2000, I read that at the world championships they were skating really well in the practices and it looked like they were poised to win their third world championships, but they were informed of the disqualification.

    I loved Concert for Coloratura also, although it took a while for me to get used to that music. Once I did, I started enjoying that music too. It became one of my favorite music. They started being more innovative, and adding more intricate moves at that point. Watch at about 1:50- I love this series of transition moves into a death spiral.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loU8JtFllqo
     
  27. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    Umbrellas of Cherbourg at 2000 GPF:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq-D1w7GcIQ

    Although it was not their best performance, it could have been beautiful had they skated it again, but I don't recall seeing them skate this before or after this competition. Did they?
     
  28. judgejudy27

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    That was one of my favorite programs ever of theirs (picturing it skated to their potential which I can always see visions of even when they dont). I was sad they never used it again. It is so hard for me to choose between that, Meditation, and Charlie Chaplin, to which is my favorite LP of theirs. That is something I would need to take the time to ponder a bit more. I loved Valse Sentimentale so much too, but for me it is just barely 4th behind those other three, which is hard since I loved it so much as well.
     
  29. lulu

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    AFAIK, they only skated it at the GPF.
     
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    Ohhhh I LOVE Valse Sentimentale... I was so sad when their medal was stripped away at 2000 Euros. They really deserved that one for the beautiful performance. I could watch that program over and over.

    I kinda wished that they used a normal version of Meditation in 2002. The blended in sound in the background always kind of bothered me as much as I loved that program.