Award a Gold Medal to Denis Ten for his Performance at the 2013 World Figure Skating

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  1. overedge

    overedge Well-Known Member

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    Not "clearly" and not "historically". Often it is a huge disadvantage because of the expectations and pressure.

    A skater needs to be competitive and to skate well to have an advantage no matter where the competition is being held.
     
  2. Seerek

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    The problem is, we won't know how the skaters afterwards will perform, and can only use the skaters who have skated previously as a relative reference point of component scores.

    The only skaters that were left to skate after Denis Ten in the SP were Chan, Takahashi and Miner. Here were the component scores to that point:

    9 Yuzuru HANYU JPN 40.82
    2 Denis TEN KAZ 40.75
    7 Javier FERNANDEZ ESP 40.56
    5 Brian JOUBERT FRA 39.97
    6 Michal BREZINA CZE 39.17
    10 Florent AMODIO FRA 38.74
    3 Kevin REYNOLDS CAN 37.47

    In hindsight, was Denis Ten's component scores relative to only these skaters listed actually correct for the short program?
     
  3. walei

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    Good point. Hanyu bombed his SP and Daisuke also had a fall IIRC and got higher PCS than Ten. Where is the Wuzzrobbed or Wuzzgifted in this situation from the Chan haters / judges are cheating criers??
     
  4. spikydurian

    spikydurian Well-Known Member

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    Like always, my rule is selective.;)
     
  5. Eyre

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    And don't need evidence or proof.:shuffle:
     
  6. mustafinabars

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    Awarding a 2nd gold is no solution. Ten was robbed, he should have won easily over a way overscored Chan, but 2nd medals are always stupid and never solve anything. A better solution is to now fix the judging problems that the sport are getting worse and worse in now. In the end nobody is really a winner, Chan isnt considered a real winner of the event, and the person who should have got the gold medal can never have that moment given to him now either. If they should do anything just leave the title vacant like the 94 U.S ladies when Harding was stripped.
     
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  7. Eyre

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    You mean then they should leave 2002 pairs title vacant? And they also should leave 2012 NHK title vacant?;) Oh, what about 2011 Japan Nationals title? Should Takahashi's title be stripped too?:lol:
     
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  9. spikydurian

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    So Ted Wilson thinks figure skating will be 'eliminated from Olympics'? Well, figure skating does not need to part of Olympics to survive does it? Figure skating federations are then free to create their own competitions to the rules they prefer rather than to the rules set up by ISU. That should bring back the audience to figure skating as Ted Wilson claims.
     
  10. TheIronLady

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    If figure skating is removed from the Olympics, the numbers of women viewing in wealthy nations like Japan and USA will go down about 50% or more. They will not watch the women's bobsled instead. I think Ted Wilson is crazy and must believe that pigs will fly.
     
  11. munow

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    Denis Ten didn't deserve the gold or silver.
     
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  13. overedge

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    Not to mention that the IOC's TV revenues would drop as well, which the IOC will never allow to happen. Especially while $peedy is a member of the IOC executive committee.
     
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    No matter whether Ted Wilson might be deemed crazy for his opinions, I think this quote from him may have wings:


    :lol: As a fan of Jeremy Abbott, it'd be rockin' to see pigs fly in Sochi!
     
  15. skateboy

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    Oh, please.
     
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    In that case Patrick Chan didnt deserve as high as 4th or 5th place.
     
  17. PeterG

    PeterG Argle-Bargle-ist

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    OH YAH???? WELL I THIK THAT VICTOR ROMANEKOV DID NOT DESRVE TWENTY-SECOND!!! YAKOV GODOROZH WAS ROBBED!!!!
     
  18. Aussie Willy

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    I TOTALLY AGREE!!!!!!
     
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  19. Eyre

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    Well, I don't think figure skating will ever be kicked out of Olympics.:p
     
  20. aftershocks

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    ^^ Alas, the IOC threatened to kick figure skating out of the Olympics post Salt Lake City pairs judging scandal, and so IJS/ CoP was born/ quickly forced into being.
     
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    Are you threatening us aftershocks with a new and improved, more objective scoring method?
     
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  22. Eyre

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    Figure skating has survived Salt Lake City. It will survive again.

    No matter how it changes, the subjectivity in figure skating can never change. In fact, on one hand those people are unhappy with the subjective results. On the other hand, what they are wishing for is a change towards more subjectivity.;)
     
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    If I remember well, somewhere in the '90s the IOC or perhaps the ISU threatened to kick figure skating out of the Olympics because of ice dancing, I can't remember if they meant just the ice dancing or all of it.
     
  24. Aussie Willy

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    I WANT MORE SUBJECTIVITY!!!
     
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    GO PETERG!! PETERG FOR PREMIER! PETERG TO REPLACE SPEEDY!!
     
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    :lol::lol::lol:
    Go PeterG!!!!
     
  27. spikydurian

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    :rockstar: PG
     
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  28. Eyre

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    More subjectivity is the main reason that figure skating might be possibly kicked out of Olympics though.:lol:
     
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  29. Emdee

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    Who cares.... we will award a Platinum medal no better than that a diamond studded platinum medal!
     
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  30. professordeb

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    I like how some of you think. Thanks for the chuckle on this wet and overcast day.