Australian dispute over women's Olympic spot to have Court of Arbitration (CAS) hearing

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Sylvia, Dec 3, 2013.

  1. Angelskates

    Angelskates Well-Known Member

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    Just a guess, but maybe because that's their hope?
     
  2. misskarne

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    She was sick. I'm pleased if she stayed away from the rink; means she wasn't making other skaters sick - including her brother!
     
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  3. Ziggy

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    Great news! :cheer:

    I still feel angry about Han being deprived of being announced for the Olympic team together with the other athletes and having all this stress interfering with her preparation for the Olympics but at least justice was done.

    All the best to Chantelle Kerry. I hope she can continue to improve her skating and earn an Olympic spot in the future based on her own merit and not legal action.

    Off-topic but yes, they were terrible. ;) You can see for yourself: Bo Luan/Yao Bin - 1984 Olympics SP

    And look at his teams now. :)
     
  4. sammyf

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    Does anyone know why Chantelle Kerry isn't going to FCC? Besides Brooklee she's the only Australian skater age eligible and with the min TES so the spot is not being used at all.
     
  5. VIETgrlTerifa

    VIETgrlTerifa Well-Known Member

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    Maybe she's still sick. :p
     
  6. Japanfan

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    IIRC the two were thrown together and ordered to compete in pairs without having any real training or preparation. I'm not sure why this happened.
     
  7. essence_of_soy

    essence_of_soy Well-Known Member

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    Has the Australian Team for Four Continents been announced? I can't find the listing on either ISA's website or their Facebook page.

    I wonder if the junior ladies' champion, Kailani Craine is going to Four Continents. I believe she has the minimum TES required.
     
  8. Ziggy

    Ziggy Well-Known Member

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    2014 Four Continents Championships - Entries
     
  9. essence_of_soy

    essence_of_soy Well-Known Member

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  10. Ziggy

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    I was also hoping that Kailani Craine would be entered but I can't recall her competing Senior this season and I guess she wants to focus on Junior Worlds.
     
  11. Skittl1321

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    Maybe it is because I spent yesterday watching novice pairs- but that didn't seem too bad. Except the death spiral (which happens to good teams too on the rare occasion...) and the pairs spin (which are always awful even when done well) the program was okay. The twist was bad but not terrible, the SBS spins mostly together, the footwork decent.
     
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  12. PairSk8Fan

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    Chantelle was ill, looking a bit green around the gills as her brother and her skating mates were chosen without her. I bet she was at home in bed, sick, just sick, all day long. I really do wish her luck in her future skating endeavors. She is going to need it.

    Go Brooklee! Free from the chains of red tape made by her competitor, she can skate with freedom and represent her country with pride. I hope Brooklee not only enjoys all of the Olympics, but also skates better than she ever has in competition. Then she can tell us all about her experiences in the media afterward. I want to read all about it. I hope she makes a big international splash, actually. I hope she skates well enough to become a skating star in Australia and show this other girl how it should be done.
     
  13. succubus

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    Are you out of your freakin mind?
     
  14. Vagabond

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    Maybe Ice Skating Australia doesn't have the funds to send a second lady overseas after spending all that money to defend itself in the Court of Arbitration for Sport.

    :shuffle:
     
  15. sammyf

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    Australian skaters pay their own way to most competitions.

    Kailani is too young for Fcc.
     
  16. kwanfan1818

    kwanfan1818 I <3 Kozuka

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    Craine has the 4C's minimums from Lombardia, but she was only 14 on 1 July 2013.
     
  17. gofigure

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  18. Vagabond

    Vagabond Well-Known Member

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    Money, goodwill, does it really matter?

    Her Federation is under no obligation to submit her name, and why should they?
     
  19. Skittl1321

    Skittl1321 Well-Known Member

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    Melissa Bulanhagui (PHI) learned a really important lesson about not pissing off the federation this year. She has been essentially forced into retirement, as she seems to be persona non grata with them, and transferring to another country would require her to sit out years she doesn't have.

    Hopefully this will not affect Chantelle Kerry in the same way, long term.
     
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  20. OliviaPug

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    In a perfect world, it shouldn't affect Kerry. But nobody likes being sued. And being seen as litigious, difficult, and arguably unreasonable wouldn't help anyone's cause.

    Even though I am not a fan of Kerry's actions with respect to Han, I do think Kerry should be given every chance to compete and participate -- assuming she qualifes -- in the future.

    O-
     
  21. jiejie

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    So is Chantelle Kerry's non-participation at Four Continents final? Is this her decision or the Australian Federation's?
     
  22. Aussie Willy

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    It will not affect her in any way, shape or form.
     
  23. aftershocks

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    It wasn't at the top competitive level, of course (which is embarrassing at that level). But in the sense of having learned from watching grainy training tapes, what a courageous effort! Their stroking was good and sbs okay to a degree, tho' the spinning was very poor and they couldn't sustain unison, but the seed of it was there. They went into the death spiral very promisingly, but again could not sustain good technique.

    I absolutely love the kind and instructive commentary by Dick Button and Jim McKay! :) And 26-year-old Yao Bin :cool:, what a heartthrob. This experience remained forever indelible in his mind and spurred him on to create champions over many long and hard-working years.

    Dick Button commented in 1984 that Chinese skating on ice was not new, just the competitive aspect. Here's proof: :)

    http://thestacks.deadspin.com/this-old-chinese-figure-skater-has-smooth-moves-awesom-1496389210

    Sorry the above is OT in this thread: Good luck to Brooklee Han!
     
  24. Skittl1321

    Skittl1321 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think there is anyway to know that. Assignments/name submission are made by people, not robots. Any assignment she doesn't get; she will likely question whether she is being slighted because of this or not. Already, before I posted, people are asking if her name was not submitted to 4CCs as "punishment" or if she chose not to go. If her name was not submitted (and I have no idea)- do you think she isn't wondering why?
     
  25. icebug

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    I believe Chantelle chose not to go to 4CC. ISA does not 'punish' its skaters by not giving them assignments.
     
  26. Aussie Willy

    Aussie Willy Well-Known Member

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    Actually I do because I am involved in the sport and know people on ISA. I do get to hear a lot of stuff from a number of sides. There are things that I don't like what ISA do but "punishing" athletes is not part of it.
     
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  27. VIETgrlTerifa

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    I'm sure Chantelle Kerry actually has a lot of support within the Aussie skating circle, going by what those who are involved with ISA have posted in this thread.
     
  28. Aussie Willy

    Aussie Willy Well-Known Member

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    Who on ISA has been posting? Do tell.
     
  29. VIETgrlTerifa

    VIETgrlTerifa Well-Known Member

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    I didn't say "on ISA" but "involved with". And I was referring to you since you just spoke about how much you knew about the inner-workings of ISA and what they're thinking.
     
  30. sk8ingcoach

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    I highly doubt that ISA is punishing Chantelle or that they intend to punish her in the future. She is still Australia's #2 girl, and probably still the future for australian skating.I dont think they would ever consider trying to push her away from the sport. Im sure if Chantelle had submitted for 4CC then she would have been submitted.

    I know Chantelle has had some problems with foot injuries and illness, but to not even submit your name for 4CC seems to me as though she is having a tantrum.