Aussie Skating

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Oz_sk8ting_mum, Aug 8, 2012.

  1. spikydurian

    spikydurian Well-Known Member

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    Certainly, having successful local skaters and giving them the publicity will help raise ice skating interest. I didn't realise I have some friends who love to watch figure skating until I posted my favourite skater on my Facebook since ice skating is not a much talked about sport in Australia.

    Our skaters did a wonderful job in spite of the incredible shortcomings in Australia. Kudos to their parents who probably had to drive them many kilometres to practice every day.

    If we can promote ice skating to the children, there may be more interest to take up ice skating. I think one set back is lack of skating rinks around Australia. How many skating rinks are there in Melbourne? Brisbane has only two ice rinks.
     
  2. Aussie Willy

    Aussie Willy Well-Known Member

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    Melbourne has two venues. The two rink facility at Docklands which is world class. The other is Oakleigh which is not full size and has probably seen better days. We badly need another one in Melbourne to cater for all the ice sports. Hockey is pretty desperate for another one.
     
  3. Frau Muller

    Frau Muller President of Dick Button Appreciation Club

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    Count me in, too!
     
  4. alilou

    alilou Crazy Stalker Lady

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    double post
     
  5. alilou

    alilou Crazy Stalker Lady

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    I guess the rink in St Kilda is long gone :)
    It's where I learned to skate as a child - got good at going around and around in a big oval, and waltzing with my sister :lol:

    Thrilled for all the Aussie skaters getting Oly spots :cheer:

    Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi :biggrinbo
     
  6. Jumpin Bean

    Jumpin Bean New Member

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  7. Angelskates

    Angelskates Well-Known Member

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  8. essence_of_soy

    essence_of_soy Well-Known Member

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    Yes, the thought of that makes me nervous too. The games are still six months away.

    Years ago Nationals used to be held in Winter around August / September.

    To keep skaters training and motivated, for qualification to international events such as the World Championshps the following March, national competitions like The Summer Trophy were used to determine who would go.
     
  9. Angelskates

    Angelskates Well-Known Member

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    What if someone else blitzes the qualifiers' scores? It's not likely, but possible. I don't think one event (regardless of what it is) should determine who is sent. I don't think it ensures the best skater (at the time) is sent. Again, I think the skaters who qualify will probably be the ones on top at nationals, but I still think the Olympic spots shouldn't be determined already.
     
  10. Jumpin Bean

    Jumpin Bean New Member

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    By standing by the skaters who qualified the places it allows funding to ensure our skaters aren't just making up the number.
    Any skater who wants to demonstrate their true loyality as an Australian figure skater will be at nationals. It is possible that the excuse handbook will be dragged out, only time will tell.
     
  11. Aussie Willy

    Aussie Willy Well-Known Member

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    I have no problem with the skaters who competed at Nebelhorn being the ones to represent Australia at the games. There has been an open and accountable process throughout. Those skaters went to Nebelhorn, proved themselves worthy of an Olympic spot through their performance and have done everything that has been asked of them. We really would not have those places available if not for them.

    With regards the timing, the skaters would still need to be training for 4CC and potentially Worlds, plus other possible international events. So I don't see that the games being six months away is an issue. This is the start of the season, not the end. You would hope by Olympics they are in peak form.
     
  12. Angelskates

    Angelskates Well-Known Member

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    Oh I think everyone will be at nationals. My concern is if they don't win, especially by a large margin. That's basically saying they're not our best skater - why should we send someone who isn't our best to the Olympics? I don't think it's likely, but I think the scores at nationals should be taken into account - I don't think just nationals should determine who goes either, but I don't think just one competition should be the determiner, especially when that competition is not close to the Olympics are we have other competitions that are closer.

    A lot could happen between now and the Olympics, and Australia should make sure we send the skaters who are our best to compete at the time of the Olympics.
     
  13. Maofan7

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    New article on the rise of Australian figure skating
     
  14. Aussie Willy

    Aussie Willy Well-Known Member

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    That was written by Katherine Firkin who has been competing in Senior Ice Dance here in Australia. She works in the media so has been doing a fantastic job trying to raise the profile of the sport here in Australia.
     
  15. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to Nationals!

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    Katherine Firkin on Brooklee Han's Olympic qualification: http://www.3aw.com.au/blogs/3aw-sport-blog/australias-new-skating-darling/20130929-2ulxk.html
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    ETA link to a local Connecticut article on Han's qualification at Nebelhorn (same local paper published a profile article about Brooklee in early February 2013): http://stamford.dailyvoice.com/sports/reddings-brooklee-han-skates-closer-olympic-dream
     
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  16. Seerek

    Seerek Well-Known Member

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    Looking like Australia will need a good result from Brendan Kerry in JGP Estonia in two weeks to squeak in for the last spot for team qualification.
     
  17. kwanfan1818

    kwanfan1818 I <3 Kozuka

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    There have been two interpretations of the Team Event qualification:

    1. A country needs at least three qualified disciplines, but has the option of appointing a fourth to complete the team, assuming there is an ISU-eligible skater/team with the TES minimums.

    2. A country needs at least two qualified disciplines, and can appoint one skater/team to one of the two unqualified disciplines, if there is an ISU-eligile skater/team with the TES minimums.

    If the former, Australia needs to pass two teams, UKR currently in 9th in points (with SKorea and Kazakhstan out with one qualified discipline), Estonia, and Great Britain, if there aren't enough dropouts to give Lafuente a spot, in which case Spain pushes Australia down another place, with Fernandez almost certainly to score more than anyone's JGP skater. If the latter is true, then Spain is also ahead of Australia.

    Kazakhstan has only one qualified discipline with no other disciplines attempting qualification, and doesn't impact the rankings, and right now, so does S Korea, with their male skater too far down the alternates list (8th).
     
  18. flutzilla1

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    SO beyond thrilled for Brendan! I used to skate on the same FS sessions as Brendan and his sister when I lived in Sydney at MISC, and they were always the first skaters on and the last skaters off. They had an incredible enthusiasm for skating and a great work ethic on the ice, even at that young of an age. Can't wait to watch him skate in Sochi! :)
     
  19. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to Nationals!

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    Just came across this nice article on Brendan Kerry: http://www.hillsnews.com.au/story/1824774/kerry-conquers-nerves-to-qualify-for-olympics/
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    Kerry also mentions his "friends in Riverside in California" (fellow training mates coached by Tammy Gambill).

    ETA this recent press release for the Riverside rink in which Kerry is mentioned: http://www.prweb.com/releases/icetown/olympics/prweb10931482.htm
     
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  20. AusTechSpec

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    I feel like the newer Dodds pair has a chance. Can't remember the girls name, but watched them skate at the ISA review before Skate Downunder and they have been doing very well considering they have only been together for a part of this year.

    The problem being is that according to the ISA rules (please don't ask me to find the rules and quote them) we were supposed to send Chantelle Kerry to nebelhorn not Brooklee.
    There is no doubt for me that Brooklee would produce a better olympic result for Australia however there have already been legal battles going on over this and it is likely to just get worse if she pulls out another excuse and withdraws or gets beat by Chantelle at Nationals.

    Despite me saying that Brooklee would produce a better Olympic spot, I also think that if Chantelle and Brooklee compete at Nationals that Chantelle will win. Which is why I agree with most of you in saying that not just one competition should decide who gets the spot. We really needed both Chantelle and Brooklee to both copete at the same international to decide it. I think another country was doing something similar at cup of Nice the other week, might have been the french team.
     
  21. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to Nationals!

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  22. AusTechSpec

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    yes but... (and again i get most of this through the skating gossip talk and is likely to be partially wrong) there was an issue with brooklees excuse and something to do with her skating in a local US comp without getting ISA approval and at roughly the same time as she was "sick"...
    It is basically assumed that she was avoiding competing against chantelle in Australia, hence the court battles that have been going on...
     
  23. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to Nationals!

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  24. AusTechSpec

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    yeah to be honest im seriously under informed here, ima talk to my ISA person and get the full story if your interested. All i know is that there have been non stop fights within ISA over what will happen if Chantelle wins at Nationals. I know for a fact they've been trying to change the ISA rules on who gets to take the spot, which has started a fight with the OWI as well. Fun time to be on ISA no doubt.
     
  25. allezfred

    allezfred Old and Immature Admin Staff Member

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    Photos of two of the Dodds brothers from Coupe de Nice here.
     
  26. misskarne

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    Even if that were the case, AusTechSpec, you should not be publicising rumours like this. This is how real problems start, with people whispering behind other people's backs.

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    In more important matters, Jordan Dodds' burgundy SP velvet jacket is still one of my favourite costumes this season so far.
     
  27. Aussie Willy

    Aussie Willy Well-Known Member

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    Well there is also the ISA Member Protection Policy, which as a coach AusTech Spec should be fully aware of as a member of APSA and applying a certain degree of self-censorship, particularly in a public form such as this one.
     
  28. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to Nationals!

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    I'm not interested in hearing "skating gossip talk" that is "likely to be partially wrong" masquerading as "the full story."
     
  29. Jumpin Bean

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    The only way Chantelle will get Olympics is for Brooklee to be unable to attend for health reasons or personal indiscretion. The policy is clear on this.

    Chantelle has not been able to beat Brooklee on total scores on the international stage. The aim of the AOC is the send the competitor with the ability to get the highest place possible at Olympics. At this stage Chantelle needs to stay match fit and be prepared to step up if required, not unlike David would for Brendan.

    For Chantelle to excel further she needs to train overseas where she is surrounded by the competitive culture of training experienced by high level skaters. Australian training conditions remains largely recreational competitive rather then competition competitive and this is reflected in the scores achieved by the Australian group already training elsewhere compared to those who continue to train in conditions which include all ages and all levels on the ice at once.
     
  30. sk8ingcoach

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    Why would Brooklee come to nationals when she knows Australian judges favor Chantelle.