Article: Dislocated hip ends Czisny's bid for third U.S. title

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Sylvia, Jan 15, 2013.

  1. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to Nationals!

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    New article with quotes from Jason Dungjen: http://www.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130115&content_id=40966986&vkey=ice_news
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  2. AxelAnnie

    AxelAnnie Well-Known Member

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    well...that is better than it sounded at first. at least no surgery. The entire thing is a dang shame though
     
  3. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to Nationals!

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    Re-posting this positive comment from the earlier thread:
    This will be the first Nationals Alissa Czisny has missed since her debut in 2001 (she won the Junior silver medal). She has competed in 11 consecutive Nationals at the Senior level (2002-2012).
     
  4. vexlak

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    I hate to be negative but this injury most probably marks the end to her competitive skating. She just had hip labrum repaired (not sure which side) which is basically holding a hip in its socket. Dislocating a hip tears the labrum making the hip lose... It can be surgically repaired, however it is hard to come back from such injury. I am speaking from my own experience.
    I wish that I am wrong and wish Alissa speedy recovery. It must be devastating to her.
     
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  5. victoriaheidi

    victoriaheidi New Member

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    Same hip, unfortunately.
     
  6. IceAlisa

    IceAlisa Épaulement!!!

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    I wouldn't make any pronouncements on Alissa's career following her injury. I doubt any of us here are her personal physicians and if you were, you's know better than to make definite predictions. I am so glad there was no nerve damage, no complications and that she ended up with a manipulation and not surgery. I hope she is resting comfortably and is able to begin physical therapy soon. Time will tell. Best wishes in your recovery, Alissa! :respec:
     
  7. UMBS Go Blue

    UMBS Go Blue KWEEN 2016! YES WE KWAN!

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    From the article, Jason seemed upbeat at least, and it looks like Alissa was fortunate to have such expert care available virtually on the scene.

    While a full comeback to competitive skating would obviously be icing on the cake, here's to a complete, measured recovery and a clean bill of health for Alissa, first and foremost. :)
     
  8. peibeck

    peibeck Letting Poje be on top

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    I am very thankful that she did not have to have surgery! I think that is the best short term news we could hear. :)
     
  9. RD

    RD Well-Known Member

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    Czisny has been fortunate to have a LONG (10 years) career without major injury. And now, all of a sudden, she gets not one, but TWO major injuries in quick succession, in the same area to boot? Yeah, I know, we are not her physician, yada yada but I don't think a M.D. is required to realize that this may be her body's way of basically saying, "I'm done". Like MK- just because the mind wants to doesn't mean the body will follow suit.

    In short- I will really be surprised if she can make a FULL recovery/comeback attempt (that is, compete at the same level or higher than she did pre-injury). Not impossible, mind you, but the odds are definitely not in her favor.
     
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  10. IceAlisa

    IceAlisa Épaulement!!!

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  11. nubka

    nubka Well-Known Member

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    I seriously doubt that anyone here is claiming to be her personal physician. Geez... :rolleyes:
     
  12. IceAlisa

    IceAlisa Épaulement!!!

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    Speaking of physicians, I spoke to a sports medicine specialist and described the situation and whatever history I know and he said you could never know one way or another in terms of return to competition.

    nubka, please take a deep breath and relax. It's called a hypothetical.
     
  13. Cheylana

    Cheylana Well-Known Member

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    Has any skater ever successfully returned to elite competition after tearing their labrum and/or dislocating their hip? Maybe NNN (I forget what type of hip injury she battled)?
     
  14. viennese

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    Devastating news. I remember NNN's injury and long road to a comeback in pairs, which was heartening to see - she was a lovely skater. I hope Czisny can make a strong recovery.
     
  15. madm

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    Yuko Kavaguti has had many dislocated hip and shoulder problems, and she is still competing in senior pairs. I don't think she has had surgery for any of them though. I was at one competition where her partner popped her shoulder back into place during the FS program and she kept on skating - it was horrible and amazing at the same time!
     
  16. FSfan107

    FSfan107 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, that is indeed great news! I'm hoping she can return to skating and competition again if that is what she wants! :)
     
  17. arakwafan2006

    arakwafan2006 Active Member

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    i dont understand why people get mad when other posters speculate on a FAN SIGHT!!! what the hell did Icealissa expect to see " hey... lets all hold hands and sing Kumbaya"? People come here to read and post. Posters range in ages. Fans here are also fans of other sports and have experiences with injuries that they bring. No one said they were the damn doctor!

    I watched her train a few weeks ago and she looked beyond fantastic. Lutzing EVERYWHERE and doing 3 flips like they were doubles. The thing that bothers me about this is how whatever outcome effects Alissa beyond her skating years. She is such a genuinely kind person. SHe has been through so much in her career and this setback is rough. She gets heat from people when she makes errors but rarely gets credit for being the overcomer she is. I truly hope that no matter if she competes again and wins a major title of if her physicians advise her to retire that she moves forward being at peace with the decision and not having regrets. I also hope that whether her next chapter begins sooner or later that its prosperous.

    Alissa, get well soon for YOURSELF!!!
     
  18. nubka

    nubka Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, but you just sounded so preachy, I couldn't resist... :p
     
  19. apatinar

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    All of that pair skating NNN did was just an attempt to get on an Olympic team after injuring herself so badly she could no longer be competitive in singles. She should have just let well enough alone because that whole pairs skating stint was a waste of about 2 to 3 years of her time. Skaters usually do not know when their time is up..( Fumie Suguri) Let's hope that Alissa will listen to her body and not try and kill herself in the process of another comeback..
     
  20. rfisher

    rfisher Satisfied skating fan

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    IceAlisa's response was more to the fact certain posters who made multiple negative posts about Alissa last spring have already jumped on the "career ending" bandwagon just as they did before and will soon segue into how she's an embarrassment to USFSA and has always been held up because she beat their favorite skater in competition. We've heard it before. Frankly, nobody knows what the future will hold for her at this point. Those of us who admire her spirit and her skating, wish for a full recovery and aren't ready to consign her to the hasbeen spot. The future is her choice to make and I'm certain she'll do what is best for her.
     
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  21. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    I am sure Alissa will make the right decision for herself at the right time. For now, her focus has to be on getting healthy. She can make the skating related decision later, when things are clearer, one way or another.
     
  22. IceAlisa

    IceAlisa Épaulement!!!

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    Sorry, but the "Alissa is clearly done fo' sho'" crew was so clueless, I couldn't resist. :p Like rfisher said:

     
  23. PUNKPRINCESS

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    Oh please. Paranoid much?? :rolleyes: The posters who were doubtful of a full return to competitive skating from Czisny sound more worried for her than anything.

    I don't think it's just the hip injuries. It's also that she's getting older, at a time when Ashley Wagner is starting to peak and Gracie Gold is climbing.
     
  24. judgejudy27

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    While I dont think she had any chance at the World team this year, I do think she had a chance with a good performance and good showing, say top 5 or 6, to be a contender for a possible Olympic team spot next year, especialy if the U.S regained 3 spots. However now I would say her chances at the Olympic team are next to nil. I still dont blame her for staying in and trying though, it is another year away. Her only chance is if the U.S regains 3 spots now, as I am pretty sure before Nationals next year the USFSA will have their chosen 2 pretty much, who will probably be held up at Nationals regardless how they perform (as we saw with Czisny in both 2009 and 2012 when she was in that role), and that 3rd spot (if there is one) will go to who skates best at Nationals.

    I am very sorry about her unlucky accident, which I believe was just that. She was skating well in the clips I saw, and while I cant imagine the USFSA or U.S judges letting her go to Worlds in a pre Olympic year, I do think she would have put herself back in the conversation for next year with a nice competition had she gone.
     
  25. IceAlisa

    IceAlisa Épaulement!!!

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    Is this thread going to go the way of Yuna's thread? :watch:

    I do agree that Alissa likely would not have made the World team this year just because the USFSA judges are still reeling from her last year's Worlds performance. That would take time and several great performances from Alissa to forget. Hope to see it happen!
     
  26. rfisher

    rfisher Satisfied skating fan

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    :rofl: That didn't take long. I must be psychic. Or just know the players.
     
  27. IceAlisa

    IceAlisa Épaulement!!!

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    I know, right?
     
  28. PUNKPRINCESS

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    All right, Alissa-haters. Show yourselves! You've been caught red-handed.

    :rolleyes:
     
  29. nubka

    nubka Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it is hard to resist, especially when the truth hurts... :violin:
     
  30. Lara

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    ITA. Best wishes to her for a full recovery. Any future skating will be a bonus to all, fingers crossed.