Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by skipaway, May 10, 2011.
Schwarzenegger/Shriver split after 25 years
I'm not surprised at all.
Was he really gov for seven years? Geez time is flying by.
This is a shocker. Right up there with the split of Al and Tipper Gore last year. What's the world coming to?
The only shocker about this is that it didn't happen sooner. There have been rumors for years.
I have heard that Der Ahnold is known to have a roving eye...
I'm not surprised. Maria grew up in a family that's used to keeping it together while a spouse holds office. Now that he's private citizen Arnold, there's no longer a need.
That was my thought. where does the time go?
I heard a month or so ago, that he was moving back to Austria.
You made my day!
It seems that she has freed herself.
I always wondered why they got married in the first place. The only thing they had in common was politics and she said that she didn't want him to run for office, so what were they planning to do together?
Hot monkey sex.
Well, somebody had to say it. In the early days, they were a hot-looking, if toothy couple.
Guess Der Ahnuld found an answer to that musical question, "How do you handle a problem like Maria?".
I've always thought she was really quite unattractive and I have never been into big muscles so for me they have always grossed me out.
She looked okay, except for her TKGS (Toothy Kennedy Girl Smile). YMMV. And she has not really aged that well. YMMV 2.
And I like big muscles.
Are you often "grossed out" by people you find physically unattractive?
I think if Maria wasn't so ultra-thin she would have "aged better." I can't remember if it was Grace Kelly or Catherine Deneuve who once said that at a certain age a woman had to decide whether she wanted to maintain her face or her waist and she had chosen her face.
I've never found anyone in her family, with the semi-exception of her late uncle Robert, remotely attractive, at least as far as blood relatives go. RFK (and, okay, much as it sickens me mentally to even think of it, YOUNG, as in pre-Dallas, Ted) got the only decent looks genes in the family. Their eldest sister Kick was okay but even she had the toothy grin.
Don't forget JFK, Jr. But that was half Jackie.
Few of the women were fortunate-looking.
Eh. I don't generally like curly hair on men, but overall yes, he got his best genes form his mother.
This is no longer accurate. With the facial fillers on the market plus Botox, you can be as thin as you want.
It's still accurate for those who don't want to resort to injecting sustances/toxins into their faces.
So since she is Catholic, is she going to follow the other Kennedy familiy tradition and ask for an annulment?
Or for those who can't afford it...
I don't think she will unless she wanted to remarry "in the church". I always thought annulments were bizarre when there were children from the marriage.
Some people like Maria, and Sarah Jessica Parker, have, unfortunately, chosen their waists. Princess Grace got fuller figured near the end of her life, but was still very pretty.
everything can be a toxin at a wrong dose, including water and Tylenol. Correct use of Botox has a long safety record at higher doses for medical problems before it was used cosmetically. Fillers are all natural substances, some with calcium suspended in water and some with hyaluronic acid.
But Andora is right--it's quite expensive.
Aww, but you don't have to get married for that. I thought as a Kennedy she would understand that. Maybe she was rebelling.
Not when they got married. I remember there being huge at the time because he was a staunch Republican and she was from a family of very famous Democrats.
Some people will not want to inject substances into their face for cosmetic purposes, whether they are "natural" or not. Obviously, many have quite different preferences.
Ahh, the Kennedy men don't have to get married (or they can get married and have hot monkey sex with someone other than their wife,) but I suspect there is a different standard for the women.
You have a keen eye for the obvious. I do like deconstructing the "OMG, it's a toxin" argument though. Saying that someone may not choose to do injections no matter how safe is fine; that's obvious and true. The reasons include but are not limited to: some people are scared of needles, some people don't care if they get wrinkles and volume loss and many can't afford it.
Saying that they are not doing it because it's a "toxin" is misinformed. Lidocaine that the dentist injects to do work on teeth is a neurotoxin as well.
LOL, my favorite moment in the Reelz series "The Kennedys"--JFK's about to get married, and Joe Sr's advice amounts to "Remember, now you're married, no rubbing the girlfriends in your wife's face" and RFK is bug-eyed with horror and says "No! Jack, you're making your vows in front of the altar and God" and JFK and Joe stare at him like he has two heads. Fidelity? That's for the little people...
Well, I think you entirely misinterpreted my initial statement (which was about people who didn't want to have "substances/toxins" injected into their face) -- the emphasis was never intended as "OMG -- injecting TOXINS!!!!!" I was just being more specific than I needed to be and should have just left it at the generic "substances" and saved any specifying to "for cosmetic purposes." Botox IS a neurotoxin, which as you have noted, has medical as well as cosmetic uses.
Yes, and most would consider the analgesic relief to outweigh any possible negative side effects or "fear of needles", although some have such an aversion to injections that they prefer nitrous oxide for dental work.
There's a rumor that Kerry Kennedy cheated on Andrew Cuomo when they were married...so it may not just be the Kennedy men.
You did mention toxins, so I understood it that being a toxin matters to you, otherwise you would have left it out.
Again, so what? Water can be toxic if you misuse it, see the Wee for Wii death. Tylenol has just been linked to blood cancers. Why does it matter that it's a toxin, that's what I don't understand. It's just like any other pharmaceutical and is safer than a lot of them. Pretty much any biologically active substance can be a toxin if misused/abused.
So you are saying pain free dentistry is more important to some than their appearance. That's fair but I am not sure how relevant.
I wish them both well.
Clearly we have a failure to communicate that appears to be resistant to attempts at clarification. Your initial post mentioned facial fillers and Botox; my reply said "substances/toxins" in an attempt to address injections of both fillers and Botox. I should have just left it with the generic "substances" to cover both (if I had more knowledge of what substances are used for facial fillers I would have used a more specific term in tandem with toxins). I said it was an attempt to be more specific (and a not very parallel construction), but you persist in believing that the matter of Botox being a toxin is what matters, even when I have stated that the practice of injections for cosmetic purposes was all that I had in mind.
No, that's not what I am saying -- I never made any attempt to link rejection of injections for cosmetic purposes and the desire for pain free dentisty, much less ranking their importance to anyone. At this point, it seems to me pointless to pursue trying to clarify to you what I meant, so I will let the thread progress to other more fruitful discussion.
Even when the kids are older and even if divorce may clearly be the best option, it's still hard on a family when the parents split. I wish the family well and hope they can maintain a friendly relationshiop for the sake of the kids, no matter what the reason for the separation.
Twenty five years is a pretty darn good run, relatively speaking. My money is on Maria being the one who is through. She's 55, which is in the age range women are, as a group, rather inclined to divorce. It's an age where the kids are mostly grown and often gone, so that focus is gone, and women start looking at their husbands in terms of spending the rest of their lives alone with this guy. She made that YouTube video a while back asking for advice on transitions, and I thought "She's done with Ahnold."
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