Any Kimmie news?

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  1. leafygreens

    leafygreens Well-Known Member

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    I can't find any recent articles other than she was the first to vote in her town. The comments from locals seem to be resentful. Other than that, is she competing this season? Still working at the physical therapist office?
  2. flyingsit

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    She's not competing. I don't know about the physical therapist office, but she is attending school full-time at the University of Delaware.
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    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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  4. leafygreens

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    Interesting. Seems like she's taking the unofficial retirement route that Michelle and the Hughes girls took.
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    Kind of funny that the article implies and at least one commenter seems to think that she won the Olympics.
  6. Michael O'C

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    I don't think that Kimmie ever got the credit that she deserved. The point is that she actually won the world title- something very few people can say they did.
  7. UGG

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    Not really. They never said "my heart is not in it".

    I also agree with the poster who said Kimmie did not get enough credit for her accomplishments. I felt so bad for her during the 2008 season when she was bashed to no end for losing one of the three US spots.
  8. museksk8r

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    I am so sick of the 3 spots nonsense. :wall: Meissner and Czisny should suffer for that for the rest of their lives in the minds of some. :2faced::barrel:rolleyes:
  9. Debbie S

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    :lol: I think most of the resentment there is political :argue: and nothing to do with Kimmie. There will always be some a-hole anywhere. I think about 99.9% of Harford County (and MD) residents think Kimmie is...what's the best word....awesome. ;)

    Based on her tweets, it does seem like Kimmie is still working at the PT office a couple days a week. She is concentrating on school this year, so she is not competing and also wanted to keep her show commitments to a minimum. I'm not sure how much longer she has to graduate, but I hope that we'll see her in more shows and maybe even SOI at some point. She is still the most recent American woman to medal (win) at Worlds. :)
  10. stjeaskategym

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    She was? Why? Getting spots is a "team effort" that requires two skaters. I don't see how Kimmie could be blamed for that. There were three US skaters there with a chance to earn three spots, and Kimmie finished the highest of the US ladies. Not her fault the total didn't add to 13, and in my opinion, not a big deal. It's not like we've really deserved 3 spots after that anyway. I don't see the point in blaming the skaters. It's an individual sport, and I doubt they put much focus on how many spots the US has as long as they have one of them!
  11. Loves_Shizuka

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    I'm thinking we've seen the last of Kimmie. I was never a fan of her skating per se, but I think it's sad the way her career petered out.
  12. Polymer Bob

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    I don't think there is any accepted mathematics to determine who succeeded and who failed in an attempt to earn 3 spots. The criteria I use is that a skater succeeds if 3 spots can be achieved by somebody placing below her. A skater fails if 3 spots can only be achieved by somebody placing above her.

    So when Rachael finished 5th, somebody placing below her could have restored the 3rd spot. Therefore Rachael succeeded. When Kimmie finished 7th, nobody finishing below her could have restored the 3rd spot. That would have required a 6th place finish. Therefore Kimmie failed.

    Obviously if the 3rd spot is restored, then both skaters succeeded.
  13. AliasJohnDoe

    AliasJohnDoe Spin Alissa Spin!!!

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    I think the team of Nagasu and Flatt also "failed" to secure 3 ladies spots at last Worlds.
  14. museksk8r

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    Yeah, and interestingly enough, both have gotten off easy from the lynch mob compared to Czisny and Meissner. I guess the witch hunters are forgiving them because it was an Olympic year and they were tired coming off Vancouver just a month earlier?
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    It's a function of that "missing" 3rd spot not being as vivid yet, (wait 'til January!!) plus people recognizing that competing a month after the Olymipcs is tough.

    And I think Mirai is about 1 or 2 more FS meltdowns away from some serious online bashing.
  16. Polymer Bob

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    And all the other girls were fresh as the morning dew.
  17. RD

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    I don't know why people keep lamenting that she didn't get enough credit. Living in her hometown/home state, I've found she's had plenty of exposure and recognition over here. The simple fact is this: she wasn't around long enough to be remembered on a mass basis. Injuries took her out of the running in 2009 and caused her to miss the Olympic season, the season where everyone pays attention. Still, not since Sokolova have I seen such a quick fall from the top. Maybe the same thing is happening to Mao Asada right now, though.

    The 2008 team took a little heat, yes- but I don't remember a particular skater being singled out...the only time that happened is when Czisny took a serious beating from fans for blowing the SP at 2009 Worlds. And this year, even though Nagasu was the one that blew the opportunity, people have tended to be more supportive and encouraging towards her. How's that for a flip-flop?

    ETA: IIRC, in 2008- Wagner was the one that really tanked. Bebe surprised people by cracking the top 10, though.
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  18. leafygreens

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    I agree. I was hoping she'd come back. But after the kapoffel (sp?) with her missing regionals last year, I just had a bad feeling.
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    maybe it's just me, but I am still hoping against hope that she will come back :) *delusional probably*
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  20. MR-FAN

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    Kimmie will be skating at the Kaleidoscope show on December 8th (Will be broadcasted December 19th on Fox at 4:30 pm) Others on the show include Scotty, Kurt, Hamill, Weir, Sasha, Plushy, Joannie and Surya:

    http://www.kaleidoscope.org/
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    Kimmie will also be in the Tribute to the Golden Age of US Figure Skating show at Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, NJ on Saturday evening, December 11. This show will be aired on 12/25/10. :encore:
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    Haven't seen her skate in a while. I hope they show her.
  23. leafygreens

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    Kaleidoscope looks like it will be a fun show.
  24. geod2

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    I was a real fan of both Kimmie and her skating, and ITA that it's sad the way her competitive career ended.
    Sasha has been at least skating shows on a steady basis and even she couldn't make a real comeback to anything resembling her former self...therefore, what are Kimmie's chances of doing so?.... Slim and none.
    Too bad, because Kimmie's competitive presence now would've made things pretty exciting ...
    :(
  25. RD

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    She's done. It may be harsh, but it's true. Look at the way Cohen's and Hughes's "comebacks" turned out. The next generation, I believe, is FINALLY ready to step up and carry US ladies skating.

    Time to move forward.
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  26. Polymer Bob

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    Yes, Alissa seems to be ready to step up?
  27. geod2

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    PB-
    Careful....don't jinx it for AC...

    ;)
  28. RD

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    I said the NEXT generation. ;)
  29. pinky166

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    I think she said she'll probably retire after this season. After nationals last year, she said something about one more season.
  30. geod2

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    I think the spirit of what Allisa said was basically "one season at a time"....
    IIRC, there wasn't an absolute limit of just one more.

    OTOH, Allisa would be the first one to prevent herself from becoming another Fumie Suguri.....

    Anyway, we're getting OT....what about Kimmie?

    Seems to me that once you've won U.S. and World championships, anything less would seem irrelevant.
    ....was Kimmie's departure and "not having her heart in it" purely and only about physical injuries and the distraction of college?
    The mind can be such a tricky thing.


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  31. UGG

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    Kimmie would have had to place on the podium for the US to keep the three spots that year, based on how the other US team members skated. Based on the fact that she placed last in the GPF and bombed at Nationals placing 7th, I really don't see how that would have been possible. I was actually surprised she placed 7th.
  32. RD

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    ^ Same here.

    Once the champions couldn't go, of course we were doomed. No way we would keep 3 spots with a struggling Meissner, a self-destructing Liang and an unproven Wagner.

    And then in 2009, when Czisny and Flatt were named to the team, of course there was uproar over the former. Events proved these skeptics right as Czisny bombed herself out of the top 10 and immediately forced us to ditch any hopes of sending three to Vancouver next year.

    Major difference: Czisny took practically ALL the heat in 2009. in 2008, IIRC I think it was not much of a surprise to anyone, so the fallout wasn't as bad.

    Then, Nagasu in 2010- why people didn't jump all over her like they did Czisny is still somewhat of a :confused: ...but then again, it might have been the Oly year. I see posters beginning to doubt Nagasu after COC, though, so I think if it happens again in 2011 she will take heat as well.
  33. pinky166

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    The difference was that despite Mirai's FS, she still beat Rachael overall, and came in 7th place, which is pretty respectable. Further, she had an amazing SP which put her in 1st place. Her FS had a lot of mistakes but the score she earned for it was nearly identical to the score Czisny earned in her Worlds FS in 2009. I think the difference is, Mirai at least had one good program at Worlds, while Alissa did not, she had a nightmare SP and a mediocre LP where she had 3 triples ratified. She also came in 11th, we all know she was capable of finishing higher. Mirai on the other hand, 7th wasn't that much of a surprise, it was a pretty good result for someone making their Worlds debut. Had Alissa come in 7th, I think most of us would have considered it a job well done, and we would have gotten 3 spots back. However, she didn't come in 7th and she wasn't exhausted from competing in the Olympics right beforehand and she didn't have to deal with the pressure of being in 1st after the SP and it wasn't her Worlds debut. There are a lot more excuses/reasons to explain Mirai's LP at Worlds than there are for Alissa's performances at Worlds. She had nothing to lose going into the FS and she still didn't really deliver.
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    I think the difference is that Alissa was thought to "cost" us an extra spot at the OLYMPICS, the be-all, end-all in skating. Whereas Mirai only "cost" us an extra spot at next year's Worlds, not quite as big a deal.
  35. stjeaskategym

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    I agree that Kimmie doesn't seem to be competing any time soon, but there was nothing at all bad about Sasha and Emily's comebacks. Sasha trained seriously for barely half a year and came in 4th at Nationals. Emily disappeared at college, but came back to compete quite respectably at Nationals, beating some of the top names. I'm sure both of those ladies are very proud of themselves for making the comebacks that they did.

    Personally, I enjoy seeing the veteran skaters compete against the newer girls. I don't like seeing the "older generation" wiped out in favor of a newer one. I like that we get to see both at the same time. After all, the "next generation" so far has been outscored by the veteran Czisny. Age doesn't really matter.
  36. AliasJohnDoe

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    Did the 2008 team of Meissner, Wagner and Liang lose 3 spots for the US "in the first place"?...YES
    Did the 2009 team of Flatt and Czisny regain 3 spots for the US?....NO
    Did the 2010 team of Flatt and Nagasu regain 3 spots for the US?....NO


    This..."Oh, but Flatt and Nagasu were tired from the Olympics" excuse is getting tiring and is outright laughable. Every single person at Worlds was tired from the Olympics. There was no excuse for Nagasu and Flatt NOT getting the 3 spots back. They didn't get the job done. They are to blame this time around. Plain and simple.....OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!!!
  37. stjeaskategym

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    She had some bad injuries and missed the GP season, and then didn't receive a bye to Nationals even though she had been assigned to two GPs. That was probably especially annoying considering she had missed Nationals the year before. On top of that, she was training in Florida despite being enrolled in school all the way up in Delaware. With the injuries, the shaky training conditions, and the very long stretch of time with no competitions, it's not surprising she kind of disappeared completely. At least she gets to do some shows now, but it's still sad. I wonder if things could have been a little better if she had continued to train in Delaware instead of going to Florida.
  38. geod2

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    I count 6 heads on that list.
    They owe us all 6 heads .....on a platter.....right now!

    :lol:
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  39. Indra486

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    Delaware was no longer a healthy training environment for Kimmie. I think she had either taken a semester off or was doing online courses when she was in Florida but her training environment in Florida was much better for her. No one really knows what went down when she left her Delaware rink other than the spare details she gave. I think she had hinted in a pre-Skate America 2008 interview that her training sessions felt like a competitive performance as opposed to just being a training session. Kimmie didn't elaborate any more on that and at all with things between Pam.
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    Not even King Henry VIII went that far. :lol: