Anna Pogorilaya: I jumped up and down when I saw myself ahead of Carolina Kostner!

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  1. quiqie

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    Anna Pogorilaya: I jumped up and down when I saw myself ahead of Carolina Kostner!

    http://www.team-russia2014.ru/article/figur/12392.html

    Third event in the Grand Prix series has finished yesterday in Beijing, China. It was a senior debut for Russia's Anna Pogorilaya and she started with a win. The score she got at this competition - 178.62 for two programs - placed her ahead of 2013 European silver medalist Adelina Sotnikova (174.70) and 2012 World champion from Italy Carolina Kostner (173,40).

    Anna Pogorilaya shares her impressions of the victory with the TEAM RUSSIA 2014 correspondent Maria Vorobyeva.

    Anna: The thought that I ended up ahead of Carolina Kostner had a tremendous effect on me. I was just jumping up and down for joy! My main goal at this event was to place in the top 3. And I needed to skate cleanly for that, because my coach, Anna Vladimirovna Tsareva, and I realized perfectly well that my competitors are ranked much higher than I. Therefore, it was very important to have a good outing at my first ever Grand Prix event. Of course, winning was completely unexpected for me (smiles). There was no goal to place higher than any of other skaters, it was more important to have a decent skate. Kostner gets incredible PCS, in the free program she got nearly 10 points more than me! It's fantastic! But I got 20 points more in TES (smiles). On the other hand, Carolina just not skated her best in both programs, and both her TES and PCS were lower than usual. If she skated clean, no one could have come even close to her at this event.

    MV: What about Adelina Sotnikova?

    Anna: Adelina managed to overcome herself in the short program and skated brilliantly. But, you see, it was difficult to skate here - time zone change, jet lag, the air at the rink was not very good, smog in the streets, and Adelina skated last yesterday. She had her own thoughts pressuring her, she must be always thinking about the Olympic Games - I understand how hard it was for her. It was much easier for me.

    MV: But you also had to feel the pressure?

    Anna: When I was in the hotel, I was shaking with fear (smiles). But on the ice, I realized that I left all the fear behind, in the hotel. There was an upbeat music playing before my skates, I listened to it - and forgot everything. It was very uplifting and helped me to get in the right mood.

    MV: Anya, what did this victory cost you? How did your preparation to your first Grand Prix go?

    Anna: Preparation was hard (smiles). Very hard. I realize only now that it wasn't a waste and it all paid off. My coach and I often argued, my body hurt because of endless painful training. My massage therapist is probably tired already of getting all the kinks out of my muscles, I often had muscle spasms, was in constant pain. I cannot even describe how hard it was!

    MV: It will probably get even harder now?

    Anna: Yes. At the Grand Prix in France I will have to face even more serious competition. Look at the French girls, they are so powerful and strong. I'm getting nervous just looking at them. In Paris it will be much tougher! Here everyone is nice and smiling, there it will be tough (smiles).

    MV: Are you ready for battle?

    Anna: Yes! My coach will always support me, just in case (smiles).

    MV: Winning Cup of China made you more confident?

    Anna: It rather has shown me how much I lack yet. I wasn't happy at all to see such a gap in PCS between me and Kostner. I realized that I was very tired by the end of the free program, which means I need more run-throughs, working out the bugs. And, considering that everyone will from now on see me as an additional threat, they will work harder and try to be even better.

    MV: Anna, you said that it was easier here for you than for Sotnikova. And earlier you said that you don't have a goal to get to the Olympic GamesÂ…

    Anna: I didn't say I wouldn't try to get to the home Olympics (smiles). I just think that realistically I'm likely not to be sent to the Olympics in Sochi. There are already enough candidates for the two spots, I'm in the second-tier group, and it is unlikely they'll place a bet on me. But I definitely have to fight (smiles).

    MV: Does it mean you will prepare for the National championships even more seriously than for the first Grand Prix?

    Anna: Oooh! Russian Nationals is everything to me! Of course, we count on placing high enough at Nationals to be able to go to the big international competitions - European and World championships. But we have a plan B as well - if anything, I can go again to the Junior Worlds, and I need to raise my ranking for that, too. It happens sometimes that you place third at Nationals, but the Federation decides that someone else should go. Then I will have nothing to lose - I have to compete somewhere. But, in general, I just have to skate well!
  2. Finnice

    Finnice Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Quiqie! You can really sense her happiness and excitement in this interwiew!
  3. fenway2

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    Nice interview. She's refreshingly honest yet respectful and self-aware. Well done, Anna!
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  4. Robeye

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    Yet again, thanks for the interview, quiqie. :)
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    Thank you, quiqie!
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    Qualify for the World Juniors could be hard as Europeans.:watch: Good timing for doing senior grand prix. :)
    With a Grand Prix Gold medal I don't think she is in the second-tier group anymore. :)
  7. Proustable

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    Terrific interview. Love the combination of candor, humour and positivity she demonstrates. Thanks Quiqie!
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    What a likeable girl! Love her attitude.
  9. Ziggy

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    Great skater, great attitude. Thanks for translating this.
  10. hanca

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    OMG, if she isn't sent to Europeans, Olympics or Worlds, she is hoping to get back to Junior worlds. It will be fight to get one of those three spots for junior worlds. The most likely candidates are Pogorilaya, Radionova, Medvedeva, Proklova, Sakhanovitch and Sotskova...
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    Astounding maturity.
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    My thoughs also. SHe knows where she's at and knows what to do next. Good for her.
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    It sounds as though she is prepared to face the challenges ahead.
  14. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    Nice! I had to laugh when she said she was worried about facing the French girls though. She is very humble.
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    Haha, me too. Meite did skate a clean FS at her first GP but obviously she's nowhere near Pogorilaya technically. Gilleron-Gory is having a very rough season so far.

    Good to see she is so level-headed though. :)
  16. Finnice

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    I will surely cheer to her in Paris. Maybe will do a small interwiew, too.
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    Please do. :)
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    I love her candor and enthusiasm. I will be cheering for her this season.
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    She is just a breath of fresh air. It's kind of like Osmond was last year.
    It's very easy to skate free with no expectations on you when your the newcomer. " The hard part starts when you win (Jill Trenary)".
  21. IceAlisa

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    I would translate this as "It's incredible" rather than "fantastic." But yes, Anna, Caro gets better PCS with good reason. Anna's P/E is barely there, while Carolina's even on a bad day like this, is better. I am glad to see that Anna ultimately realizes this. I hope to see her develop in the PCS area, the jumps are there.

    I liked this interview, what a nice, mature girl she is.
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  22. Coco

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    What a well spoken young lady :) Love her honesty!
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    I really enjoyed reading this interview; thank you for the translation!
    Anna seems grounded and well aware of her strengths and weaknesses. I hope she can keep improving and doing well. I really enjoyed her free skate :)
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    Awesome interview, she seems to have a great attitude and an astonishingly mature perspective for a 15 year old. She knows where she stands in Russia and what she needs to do to get noticed there, no resting on her laurels and she is very honest and open about everything. It is not surprising she has been such a strong competitor up to this point, she and Julia share this sense of blunt honesty and drive that appears to set them apart from the rest. And then there is just having the ability to compete and rise to the occasion, something that you just cannot teach.
  25. Loves_Shizuka

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    Is it Pogo-ril-Iyah?

    Or Pogo-RIL-eeyah?

    Or...?
  26. quiqie

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    Pogo-REE-lah-yah, I think. Ukrainian word for a person who lost their posessions in a fire, btw.
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  27. Loves_Shizuka

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    ^Thank you! :cheer: And... what a meaning!
  28. Frau Muller

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    Me likes AnnaP a lot due to her refreshing honesty. I hope that she and YuliaL will form the Russian Ladies team for Sochi. Russian Nationals will be very exciting.
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    This. They both have exactly the right attitude and enough self-awareness needed to succeed. Their skating still leaves a lot to be desired but they are making progress and they know their weaknesses and aren't planning to rest on their laurels (which is what Sot and Tuk largely appear to be doing, IMO).
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    No kidding! Well, she certainly seems to have the developing ability to endure the competitive fires of figure skating and gain some glorious podium possessions. ;)

    Right now Anna P looks wonderful technically/ athletically and was also pretty well put together re her costume and music (sometimes the Russian ladies seem to have odd choices in those respects). It will be great if she can improve artistically and interpretively re her music as she matures.
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    Watched Anna's exhibition program, the routine wasn't great and her hair was a mess but she looked stunning in the outfit! I remember thinking the same thing at Junior Worlds where she wore a similar black unitard-like outfit for the exhibition, I think in the tight black, you can really see the potentially nice lines she can have. For now, she needs to work on straightening her legs and flailing her arms less, and her overall appearance is still a bit gangly though much more sophisticated than last season, but idk, if she can work on polish, posture, and straightening those limbs of hers, I think she could really be something. She already has the jumps and fiery spirit, and her long limbs could really work to her advantage if she can gain full control of them, which I think she could in a couple years time.

    Seeing Pogorilaya doing so well makes me miss Shelepen and wonder what might have been if she had stayed with Tutberize. Shelepen and Pogorilaya are similar in many ways, I would say Pogorilaya has stronger basics, speed, and consistency, but they have similar strengths and weaknesses along with similar builds and Shelepen was progressing nicely until the nightmare coaching change/injury/Israel fiasco..
  32. IceAlisa

    IceAlisa Port de bras!!!

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    Thank you. Someone on NBC said it means "bursting into flames" (Johhny?) and pissed me off. That is not what it means, quiqie is correct.
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    Uh, yeah that would be a difference. :eek:

    Great interview and ITA her attitude is very promising. :) Best of luck to her and fingers crossed she does succeed in improving her PCS! No reason she shouldn't when we've already seen Lipniskaya making strides this season.
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    Some tidbits from Anna's interview to sovsport.ru:

    http://www.sovsport.ru/news/text-item/656861
    http://www.sovsport.ru/news/text-item/656862
    http://www.sovsport.ru/news/text-item/656865
    http://www.sovsport.ru/news/text-item/656867

    Q: Anna, don't you feel any discomfort training on the same ice as Julia? Congratulatory posters in honor of your victories are hanging at your home ice rink right next to each other…
    Anna: We didn't even say hi to each other until the last year. We knew each other, but never said a word. No, it wasn't jealousy, irritation or a display of competitiveness… I don't know what it was. It was just the way it was. The funniest thing is that we got to know each other, became friends and started hanging out at the Junior World championships.

    Q: It's funny indeed. Is it a true friendship?

    Anna: Absolutely! If you ask me what I would like to learn and from whom, I'd name her first - her jumps, her consistency! She jumps like a young Plushenko. Can jump with her eyes closed, open, with any entry, and without falls. It's a unique ability. And I would love to learn from Carolina Kostner her amazing stroking.

    I liked Carolina so much! Such a sunny personality, it's just shining through! And what surprised me the most, she understands Russian!

    Q: Carolina Kostner understands Russian?!

    Anna: Yes! At the press-conference she was asked a question in Russian, the translator turned to her, and she said, no, it's okay, I understand. Before the gala, at the practice, I came up to her to warn her that I will be in this part of an ice rink, to avoid collision - in Russian, what else, I don't speak English, my second language is French, and only in the modest school format… And Carolina answered in Russian - with an accent, but correctly!

    Q: Was she shining during practice as well?
    Anna: She's so radiant, always smiling, even when it's tough for her. I would like to learn that, too. I also try, of course, I listen to cheerful, upbeat music before I go on the ice, to light up, but there are the days when I'm feeling down, unfortunately…

    Q: Anya, you were so obviously happy to beat Carolina, didn't that hurt her pride, what do you think?
    Anna: It didn't, or at least she didn't show it in any way. If I hurt someone, and quite deeply, it was Adelina Sotnikova. She got really angry, and our next encounter won't be easy for me. She was pressuring me quite harshly at practices in China, too. Adelina is such a sweetheart outside of the rink, but at practices she has a way of pressuring the competitors… It didn't affect me, even though she was aiming to do exactly that. It was interesting - such a show! Here is she, not even looking at you. She is not interested in you! But when you pass her, Adelina starts inadvertently following you. If it were someone else, you'd go your separate ways. But Adelina… She will definitely get in your way when you are attempting a jump, and you have to skip the jump, otherwise you collide!

    Q: It looks like you never get angry?
    Anna: Why, I got got very angry before the Cup of China, when nobody believed in me, no one counted on me, not a word had been said about expecting me to win...

    Q: But you said yourself you only wanted to make top-3.
    Anna: Well, I said just in case. But I'd wanted only to win... Why else to skate? After I won, I said tentatively that I consider my chances to make Olympic team minimal. But I want to go to Sochi very much, and I will do everything to go there.

    Q: But what can you do? There are two spots, only one will be decided by sports principle, another will be decided by coaches counsel. You must realize that two great girls from the same great Moscow figure skating school won't go to the Olympics. It's politics.
    Anna: Then let Julia go to Sochi. She deserves the Olympics, and I will cheer for her!
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  35. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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  36. IceAlisa

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    Thanks for the links! I may not yet be a fan of Anna's skating but am becoming a fan of Anna, the person. She sounds so genuine. Also, now I am an even bigger fan of Caro & Julia but much less so of Adelina. Not cool, not cool at all. If it's true, I hope karma bites her on the a$$. :EVILLE:
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  37. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    I just feel like Adelina needs to pull herself together before she starts worrying about being a diva. What is she intimidating the other girls with, her fantastic falls on her triple flips? Now if Julia wanted to intimidate, the others would have reason to run scared...
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  39. IceAlisa

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    Julia doesn't need to intimidate. She seems calm and secure in herself. Adelina, OTOH, is neither. I don't think she is angry at Anna, what's the point of that? She is angry at herself.
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    People generally like divas...