Ann Arbour dance coaches moving to Colorado Springs?

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by wildfire, Mar 19, 2011.

  1. MacombSk8rMom

    MacombSk8rMom New Member

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    I can confirm that Yasa and Yuri are staying put in Ann Arbor. Students there are making their fall college plans, and talked to them prior to making their commitments.

    Teaching a seminar is not the same thing as relocating.

    I don't want to see any potential teams that form this year to shy away from Ann Arbor thinking the program may leave. For our part, we just got a partner's visa in order in the fall to skate in Ann Arbor, so it would be a big hardship to alter that visa to go elsewhere.
  2. wildfire

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    I think it's always detrimental when skaters don't know the future of their coaches. The seminar at WA is for FREE to WA and Broadmoor SC skaters. It's only a two hour seminar, so it is odd, at best, that Yasa and Yuri would be giving a FREE seminar in Colorado if they aren't looking at it for a potential relocation. There are coaches here who have contacted them and asked them directly what their plans are. They are not giving an answer one way or another. WA is clearly hoping that Yasa and Yuri will make the move to Colorado. Management has made the bold move of removing the two international dance coaches, that have been supporting the WA, in an attempt to clear the way for other dance coaches. The management has put a lot on the line by not supporting the coaches and dancers that have been there for years to not have something else lined up. All this could easily be put to rest by WA, in conjunction with Yuri and Yasa, making a definitive statement that Yuri and Yasa will not be moving to the Springs. Both parties are choosing not to do that, so the question seems to be a fair one.
  3. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    So I guess you believe that posting anonymously here at FSU will clear things up to your satisfaction?
  4. wildfire

    wildfire New Member

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    I don't think this is about me and my satisfaction. Skaters and famiies make huge sacrifices to skate with particular coaches and facilities. I think it is rather irresponsible for anyone, be it management or coaches, to not be forthright with their clientele. My anonymity seems rather insignificant in comparison to the questions that the skaters both in CO and MI are left with in this situation. Skaters should be first priority in situations like this. JMHO
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  5. MarciajsR

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    Can anyone give more specifics about the dance coaches they have asked to leave. Who are they, were are they going etc
  6. Debbie S

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    According to MacombSk8rMom, it sounds like the skaters in MI are pretty clear on Yuri/Yasa's status. It sounds like it's WA rink mgmt you should be focusing on, not Yuri/Yasa.
  7. wildfire

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    The coaches no longer at WA are Patti Gottwein and Tiffany Dombeck. It seems that these coaches are planning on staying in Colorado Springs. Colorado College is working with the ice dance community in the Springs with the goal of bringing a high quality environment to all. This is something that hasn't been the case at WA because of the shared use of the dancers with the pair program. At Colorado College the dancers will have a much better ice situation than WA is willing to provide.
  8. wildfire

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    So Yuri and Yasa are coaching in Colorado Springs today. Hopefully skaters will find out what their plans are now that everyone can talk face to face.
  9. madm

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    The dancers have had a lot of ice time at WA. My last summer schedule shows 4 dance sessions (45 min each) in the morning, 1 dance session in the afternoon, and 3 dance/pair sessions in the afternoon (which few pair teams use). The dancers get more sessions than the pair teams. IMO the problem with these two coaches is their lack of ability to get along and openly feuding on the ice. The dancers may get more ice time at Colorado College, but the facility has far less to offer than WA.
  10. wildfire

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    Yes the dancers have wonderful icetime at WA. They get get the 6:00am start time with four sessions in a row. Apparently pairs can't skate early mornings so the dancers are the sacrificial ones to take the time. All sessions at WA are available for the pairs to use after 8:25. The pair skaters are told by their coach that they are not to move for the dancers which breeds contempt for eachother. Management is clueless about skating and is not capable much less willing to deal with any of this. Dance is absolutely lowest priority in that rink.
  11. wildfire

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    So it's been well over a week since Yasa and Yuri were in Colorado Springs. Did anyone in Colorado talk with them and find out what their intent was? Can someone confirm that they are moving?
  13. UMBS Go Blue

    UMBS Go Blue KWEEN 2016! YES WE KWAN!

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    You might want to get your vision - or comprehension / selective reasoning skills - checked:

  14. wildfire

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    I'm sorry, I guess I left out some information that you probably needed. While Yasa and Yuri were in Colorado Springs for thier seminar they went out looking for homes, so I guess that's why many are still asking this question.
  15. overedge

    overedge Well-Known Member

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    The only person who seems to be asking about this is you.
  16. Jayar

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    Looking *AT* and looking *FOR* are two different things. But if they do move to COS, there will be some major crow eating here.
  17. wildfire

    wildfire New Member

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    Being excited about some potiential changes in the dance hubs around the counrty is a bad thing? Maybe discussing Obama's birth certificate would be more interesting to you.
  18. overedge

    overedge Well-Known Member

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    There's a difference between "being excited" and tossing around unsourced rumours. And, yes, it is a bad thing to anonymously post unsourced rumours under the guise of "has anybody heard about this???" - and then, when no one bites, to follow up with further unsourced "information".

    To be honest, your posts read like you have some agenda that has very little to do with promoting discussion of US ice dance.
  19. wildfire

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    The only agenda I have is trying to find out where Yuri and Yasa are planning on coaching. Here are some factual items. WA is looking for new dance coaches to bring to their facility.

    1.This has been stated by management to many of it's customers in an open forum meeting.
    2. Yasa and Yuri were brought in to do a Seminar at the WA.
    3. At this seminar they were asked, by parents of skaters participating, if they were relocating. The answer given was that Yuri's fiancé was in medical school and that finding a way for her to do her residency in Colorado was an obstacle.
    4. Yasa was specifically asked by coaches in Colorado, specifically Tiffany and Patti, and she opted to not give an answer.
    5. A BSC board member drove Yuri, his fiance, and Yasa around to look FOR houses when they were in Colorado Springs.

    I don't see how the posts I've made is spreading rumors. There are significant facts that maje the question a logical one. I have no idea why this is so sensitive to some of you. It's not my intent to do any ine harm in any way. I guess I don't get it?
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  20. OrioleBeagle

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    Is Yuri's fiance American or Russian?
  21. wildfire

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    Neither, she's Asian.
  22. Twizzler

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    Seems to me that you are just trying to start trouble.

    Yasa and Yuri have to be members of the PSA. Their respective phone numbers/email addresses should be listed in the membership directory. Since you seem to be the only person that can't wait for an official announcement, (if there is even going to be something of the sort) why don't you do us all a favor and contact them directly. Then you can post some facts here instead of trying to stir the pot. Just sayin'.
  23. wildfire

    wildfire New Member

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    OR you can just ignore my posts if they're an issue for you.
  24. Twizzler

    Twizzler Well-Known Member

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    I have been up until now. You just seem like someone with an ax to grind and quite frankly, it's annoying!
  25. MacMadame

    MacMadame Internet Beyotch

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    If we ignore her, she can't cause trouble.
  26. wildfire

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    And now I'm a female? I find some of you to be quite amusing. I don't comprehend the sensitivity to this subject. I find it very fascinating.
  27. Pulaski73

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    All Wildfire is wondering is whether or not they have made a decision. But I am surprised.... for someone who knew so much about Yuri and Yasa's plans to all of a sudden not be in the know start to ask what everyone else has heard is a bit humorous and definitely discredits any of your "Facts."
  28. footwork

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    Don't validate " trouble" by responding to it , if that's how you feel. Be a bigger person and don't cruise this thread !! I personally have enjoyed the post.
  29. bayskate

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    I don't see wildfire as causing trouble. The questions seem reasonable to me.
  30. CoralReef

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    Sounds like a parent trying to find options for their skater or a coach checking out potential competition in the area for students. I am sure there is some "truth" to all the rumours, I just hope their own current skaters aren't caught by surprise.
  31. Pitbull

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    If one Googles "Colorado Springs Ice Dance" what comes up is the new Colorado Springs Ice Dance Academy. Seems Tiffany has built a positive alternative to programming at the World Arena. She has moved on and has created a wonderful training program for skaters. Let's focus on what we have and move on!
    Let the WA suffer the consequences of their decision making...their current skaters can easily find the Colorado Springs Ice Dance Academy and take part in positive training!
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  32. Pitbull

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    In response to "Madm": if you are going to accuse the coaches of "openly fueding" on the ice and thereby tainting both of their reputations, perhaps you need to site examples. One of these coaches had been observed screaming at rink personnel, other students and other parents while the other coach chose to not engage in the insanity. If nothing else, this reflects very poorly on the management of that facility for not dealing with the agressor a LONG time ago!
  33. Pulaski73

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    You seem very interested in tarnishing just one of their reputations and yet you can't seem to site specific examples. It takes two to tango as I'm sure Tiffany and Patti know very well. But I think two Olympic coaches would be a great chance for the WA dance program to get even stronger than it is. Other than the Gilles kids and a novice medalist, the situation for ice dancers in the springs was very bleak so I truly hope yasa and yuri breath life back into the program there.
  34. wildfire

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    :rolleyes:
    Something tells me that there's nothing ironic in someone who chose the name "PITBULL" calling someone else the agressor.:eek:
  35. wildfire

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    I have posted FACTS but some don't want to believe them. I could contact Yasa and Yuri but you wouldn't beleive what I would post about them anyway. Maybe you should contact them, so you can hear the answer for yourself. That's probably the only way you'll believe it.:blah::blah:
  36. purple skates

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    wildfire, someone upthread posted their personal experience with the situation and you didn't believe them.

    ETA to add the post:

  37. overedge

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    What part of "nobody else seems to care about this as much as you" do you not understand?

    Contact them. Ask them your questions. Satisfy your "curiosity". No one here is demanding that you post what you find out.
  38. Twizzler

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    It may surprise you to know that a move to WA by Yasa & Yuri wouldn't shock me in the least. It's the fact that you keep pressing the issue that I find irritating. If they are going to move, I'm sure there are a lot of logistics to work out.

    They aren't going to make an announcement any sooner just because you continue to post the "facts" you know. Lots of people are looking at this thread, and im sure that many of them have information. If the interested people want to share what they know, someone else would've confirmed your stories. Maybe people dont want to share what they know because it's none of our business until Yasa, Yuri, and USFS want to make it our business. I'm sure the interested parties are aware of any changes that might/or might not be happening.
  39. wolverine

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    I "am" an interested party that can confirm all that Wildfire has stated up until now. The short and sweet of it is: 1. Ann Arbor, for good reason, would like Yuri and Yasa to stay put. 2. WA/COS are in dire need of good reputable dance coaches to breath new life back into a dying program!

    Facts to think about....more/less for the doubters out there:

    1. WA in need of ice dance coaches and put the word out.
    2. "Free" seminar at the WA with Yuri and Yasa...........sounds alot like scouting out the WA.
    3. Looking at/for houses in area......last I knew this wasn't in the COS tour guide.
    4. Refusing to answer any questions related to a possible move to COS.
    5. Word is.....negotiations are in the works with WA for more ice dance sessions before final decision is made.

    Who knows which way this will go due to negotiations, but sadly one group will lose out and another will reap the rewards! Keeping fingers crossed....:rollin:
  40. overedge

    overedge Well-Known Member

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    So you suddenly felt the need, all by your independent self, to join FSU and "confirm" this speculation? Yarite.