Anissina to return??

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by alij, Jun 15, 2013.

  1. alij

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    here is all that interview http://news.sportbox.ru/Vidy_sporta...-Anisina-Vistupati-budu-za-Franciyu?playeri=2 Sincerly said, I don't know what to think about it... I know I can't take Marina's husband seriously, but hey, she seems quitte serious, the tv show as well as the channel is also serious. :eek:
    All in all, I'd say Gailhaghuet must be really desperate, if he's trying to convince A/P to return :eek::eek::rofl: Nikita said he asked them after P/B's 6th place at worlds and that they will negotiate about the contract, financial qustions and the final decision soon. Marina said she's not affraid of new system, but it would be a big change as she has familly,...

    I remember I read rumours about Anissina being asked by Didier to skate in Vancouver with Olivier, but I thought it's only some crazzy rumour...now, I'm not sur anymore:p

    As for myself, big A/P fan, I'm not sur I'd like to see them compared to D/W and V/M, but wow, it would be definitely interestion :rofl:
  3. IceIceBaby

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    Wow. But it's way too late for them to start to practice now.
  4. Macassar88

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    But April Fool's Day was two months ago...
  5. alij

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    It is the weirdest announcement, I wish I spoke Russian so I could understand the whole interview, I only understood Sochi and Olympics lol

    I don't understand what she would hope to gain from it at all!
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    Google Translate also says she not only plans to skate with Gwendal Peizerat but also to speak with him at some point. That would be a good thing. I am sure he would love to hear from her again. :lol:
  7. alij

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    Might be even trickier to return if she forgets to ask him first!
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  8. Macassar88

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    Well she used to lift Gwendal. Maybe she'll lift herself now.
  9. ostile17

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    Hilarious, have you seen them in shows recently? I mean... she can hardly bend! :rolleyes:
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    She will skate with Khokhlova :p
  11. ostile17

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    Haha, she could make her fly!
  12. AndyWarhol

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    This has made my night :lol:
  13. Nours

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    Can't believe it's true. I love her but what's the point really ???
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    She really should stop letting her husband do sports interviews. He is an incredible idiot (I lasted for about 5 minutes of the interview...)
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    Maybe she or her weirdo husband need more publicity.
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  16. nuge

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    We all know what happened to FP/M at their comeback :eek:
    French would be better off asking Shoenfelder back .Anyway A/P are history Papadakis/Cizeron are coming :p
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    I could give anything to see Marina's husband on the stands singing and dancing to "opa dzighurda":rofl:
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    This has got to be a joke or something said for publicity. They can't possibly be competitive or even expect to be so when they come back during the Olympic season. They would have to go get a qualifying score at some small competition, right? Then they would basically make their big debut at Europeans and finally have the Olympics. Ice dance politics would dictate that they would have zero chance at the podium, anyway. I think this is all for attention/publicity.
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    I feel your pain and fortunately I don't understand him, the looks and pirate voice alone give him away... :lol:

    If this was all for publicity on Marina or her husband's part, then I wish they had chosen a way that wouldn't make P/B look so bad, or maybe that was the intention all along, so that the russian pairs look good...
  20. IceIceBaby

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    Ha, this is part of Russian federation's politics! :skandal
  21. sykr

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    NO he isn't. He's only a public person who plays his role. When he played serious roles in the theatre and composed and sang beautiful shansons, no one was interested. Do you know some of his previous work? I guess not and it's a shame, it's really good. Now, he plays idiot and he's very famous, gets a lot of money and attention...it's a sad truth. In reality, he's talented, alsolutely lovely, very charming, hearty man, a great father and a loving husband. I feel I can say this as I met him twice and he was really great.

    They could make the new free dance to opa dzhigurda. That would be something completely new and creative, exactly like she wants :D

    :D

    That's exactly waht I would like to know....money? fame? to save French medal hopes ? :D Btw they look quitte serious and realistic, the aim is the bronze medal, silver and gold will go to the USA and Canada :D

    I would actually like to see Olivier again, otoh I'm not sur who could be his partner, I can imagine Isabele's return even less than Anissina's.

    Theoreticaly, they could get TEB TBA spot, couldn't they ? :D And seriously, what I don't get is....if it's really done for publicity, why to invent such a complicated story and talk about so many details (P/B, Gailhaguet, who will coach them,...) ? There are much easier ways to get attention. And also, why to use such a serious chanel and not some "yellow" tv show like "pust govoriat" on First channel, "govorim i pokazivaem" on NTV,...? This way, only skating fans will know about it. It doesn't make sens to me at all.

    Marina had some interesting points about today's figure skating and also the part about their children was nice, though :)
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    Not even getting a fraction of a hope up, but I would like to see them skate again :shuffle:
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    I agree, but I think them just getting back to do shows would be a good start... And I still want to know what Gwendal thinks!
  24. Cherub721

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    Well the Russian federation might as well ask Pasha back, I bet she could still outskate most of these girls. :lol:

    I think I read that Marina had been hired by the French fed as some sort of consultant for Sochi preparation, so I doubt she would say anything to make P&B look bad on purpose (and I always thought of P&B as mini-A&P, especially in their early career :D). I agree with TAHbKA, this is probably just her husband being an idiot...
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  25. my little pony

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    i guess their freaky birth video strategy failed
  26. ballettmaus

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    As much as I love Marina and Gwendal, (they still are my favorite dance team) I would say Pechalat/Bourzat have a much better chance right now to place well at the Olympics than them. They have never ever skated under COP so that alone, I'd think, would mean they don't stand a chance considering how difficult it was for the younger couples to adjust to the new system. I doubt it's true anyway, I cannot see Gwendal coming back, but just in case there's a grain of truth to that, I sincerely hope they don't come back for their own sake.
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    Gwendal cannot skate with Marina because he has to come help me pass the Swing Dance when I test it :p
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    If they come back, P/B will surely place above them and they will be lucky to even place in the top 10. Did it necessarily say Marina was coming back with Gwendal though? I'm not sure who else she would pair up with, if not Schoenfelder..

    Maybe she can team up with Pascal Lavanchy or Paul Duschesnay.. now those would really be comebacks.. :lol:
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    Well we all know that Linichuk and Karponosov are shoe ins for Sochi with their comeback.
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    They were not to good at twizzles 11 years ago :rolleyes:
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    And god awful spins
  35. sykr

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    It was not all about twizzles 11 years ago (thanks God !). Also, I don't get where the idea of them being weak technicaly comes from, other couples did 2+2 series of twizzles, usualy almost at place (L/A? F-P/M, D/V...the only couple that did a little better vere B/K with fast twizzles, but they weren't moving much neither) , A/P generaly did more difficult stuff. They had some problems in 2001, but their twizzles were very difficult that season, changing positions in the middle of twizzles, covering huge amount of the ice,... We will never know how well they would do if the twizzles were their training priority.

    Sorry, but this is ridiculous...can you specify, what was awful about their spins? Ok, they had 1 weak spin in Carmina, but other than that, they had always good spead, centred spins with great lines, interesting new positions. They (and D/V) were the only ones who were able to change positions during the spin. Also, I always appreciated their spins were very well incorporated in the choreography.

    For example P/B (who I appreciate a lot) have not great spins imo and I think A/P could do their spins without so much difficulty. As for twizzles, those are not P/B's strong point neither. I'd say in their primes, A/P could easily compete with today's best couples, I'm sad they don't get any recognition here.
    That said, I don't wish their return at all, but I would be very happy to see them in shows again. :swoon:
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  36. casken

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    Anissina and Schoenfelder for gold! :cheer:
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    They may have had the technical ability to compete with today's best couples, however, their programs from those days could not have because they didn't even come close to what's required today. None of that diminishes their ability though. They skated in a different era, they would have been a different couple had they skated in today's era, obviously. I'm not sure I'd want that; I'd rather remember them for what they were because the way they were, they were great and I like that they had all those liberties that today's couples don't have when creating their programs!

    Which brings me to another (general) thought - Marina and Gwendal have both, repeatedly, expressed that they're no fan of the new judging system and that they regret the lack of creativity in today's ice dance. Why would they return to a world of ice dance they don't agree with and more importantly, don't like?!
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    I disagree about them having good speed. I also didn't think they had very difficult positions. Maybe difficult compared to the field but definitely not anywhere near the level they'd need to get high levels and GOE's today.
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    I totally agree. Moreover I'd add they were the only one to do their twizzles on both feet (of the top teams). B/K did not - in my memory but I'm pretty sure - except maybe in their first version of MJ medley (difficult twizzles right in front of the judges toward the end), sadly they changed them after the GP (too difficult maybe?).

    As for spins, they just don't belong to ice dancing anyway. It's a nonsense to have them as mandatory elements and most of the time is painfull to watch/disruptive of the program composition (even though there's not that much anymore, just elements championships). I wonder who had this brilliant idea to include them back in 99.

    Also, maybe A/P can't do what the dance team do nowadays but the reverse is also true. V/M couldn't even interpret CDs correctly... I have very hard time picturing them skating as A/P did their 1995 tango FD or R&J, MITIM, Carmina Burana. Even A/P FD from 1994 (Flamenco, still my favorite from them, it was awesome. Close call with Jeanne y Paul 95 FD though, wonderful intricacy & interpretation) would be a challenge too high given V/M's everything but spanish 2010 OD aka "show me how wonderful skaters you are with ramdom music in the background".
    Don't be angry at me V/M fans, I took them as an exemple because they are better than almost all the other teams in this area and the best overall dancers of today. The germans, Z/S and I/K are the only one I can see doing a good job under the 90's ice dancing criteras redarding what you have to do with your musics.
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    I agree how about trying to do whole programs without having every single second taken up by required technical elements! Ice dance used to be much more creatively harder!