American Idol - Top 13 (March 9th and 10th)

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by PeterG, Mar 9, 2011.

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Whose Performance Did You Enjoy Tonight (Multiple Choice Allowed)

  1. Ashthon Jones and/or Naima Adedapo

    9 vote(s)
    15.0%
  2. Casey Abrams

    33 vote(s)
    55.0%
  3. Haley Reinhart

    15 vote(s)
    25.0%
  4. Jacob Lusk

    9 vote(s)
    15.0%
  5. James Durbin

    36 vote(s)
    60.0%
  6. Karen Rodriquez

    1 vote(s)
    1.7%
  7. Lauren Alaina

    2 vote(s)
    3.3%
  8. Paul McDonald

    1 vote(s)
    1.7%
  9. Pia Toscano

    33 vote(s)
    55.0%
  10. Scott Mccreery

    22 vote(s)
    36.7%
  11. Stefano Langone

    9 vote(s)
    15.0%
  12. Thia Megia

    18 vote(s)
    30.0%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Allskate

    Allskate Well-Known Member

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    I think this is a good example of when and how vocal issues affect a person's assessment of the quality of someone's performance. Jacob even admitted to having some vocal problems the other night. People often are more likely to overlook pitch and control problems if they like the person's tone, singing style, or performing style. And what people think is a good performing and singing style is highly subjective. Jacob's style simply doesn't appeal to me, but at least he adds some variety to the show.

    I don't think Naima's moves are all that great compared to many successful performers, but IMO they sure are better and more interesting than her competitors'. (There are people who love the way that Paul moves on stage, but I don't. Some people can't stand the way he sings (though I think some people may be hearing with their eyes, but I like his tone.) I wouldn't go so far as to say that Naima's vocals were better than 95% of the Grammy performers', but it was as good as some there. I'm not sure that's a good jutsification for keeping her around until the end, though, if there are people who clearly are outsinging her. If the singing isn't the major factor in this show, why bother pretending that this is a singing contest? I don't see the point in crowning someone just to autotune the heck out of them in the studio. Naima adds interest to the show, so I'm glad to keep her around until some of the boring mediocre singers are sent home.

    I'm curious to know how much the producers brought in to work with the contestants are determining the arrangements. I think some contestants will benefit from the producers and some might be getting stuck with arrangements that the judges and a lot of viewers don't like. Naima's arrangement worked for her. Thia's and Stefano's? Not so much, IMO.
  2. Aceon6

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    I feel that having professional help will benefit the older contestants. Those folks are used to working with/for others and, if they play their cards right, can get the most out of the experience. I worry that the younger kids will just go with the "sing it that way" not realizing that it should be a trial and error process.
  3. Jayar

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    FWIW, I will buy music by Jacob. I love his style. But I buy a lot of the contestants' music. I try to support these kids as much as I can. I even have something from David Archuletta :eek:
  4. Aceon6

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    As I said in the other thread, I love Jacob's gift. I just wish he'd give it to us in a simpler way. I must confess, I hate runs. Hate 'em with a passion, no matter how well delivered.
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  5. PeterG

    PeterG Argle-Bargle-ist

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    We had Paul, Alaina and Karen in our bottom three. One out of three ain't bad! Actually, we might have had two if I had been able to make the poll into 13 choices. Perhaps all of the votes for Ashthon/Naima were all for Naimia? (Hope, hope, hope!)

    Some would say that crying is a way to handle criticism. If we get hurt, we cry. Better to let go of the pain than hold it all in. Makes me wonder if Casey is feeling the pressure of the competition and holding it all in...until he ends up in the hospital. Meanwhile, Lauren and Thia are standing strong! (Remember, we were born with tearducts for a reason!) :)
  6. PeterG

    PeterG Argle-Bargle-ist

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    Had to add this bit from votefortheworst.com...too funny!! :rofl:

  7. Allskate

    Allskate Well-Known Member

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    Yes, but crying at such minor criticism shouldn't really hurt very much. I have to admit, I'm wondering if some of the tears from Thia and Lauren and the "I sang bad. I'm sorry" stuff isn't an attempt to gain sympathy from voters. But, it could just be that they are really, really tired and, at their age, they don't know how to handle the stress better. The three who ended up in the bottom three seemed to be handling things better than Thia and Lauren.

    I do think that Casey's health problems may be the result of the pressure or of being too busy to take care of his health. He tweeted that he got some blood transfusions and is feeling better. Crystal, who dealt with her own health issues last year, tweeted him and encouraged him to try to stay in the competition and not be afraid to say "no" at times.
  8. skatesindreams

    skatesindreams Well-Known Member

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    I'm with you!
  9. LuckyCharm

    LuckyCharm Well-Known Member

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    I have to admit, I don't get the Haley/anal connection. What am I missing?
  10. cailuj365

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    You say this like I've never heard people trash some of my favorite singers because they don't like their tone, "shrieking," or performance style. :p
    I never said Naima was going to win! From the performances from last week, I only watched Casey, Jacob, Lauren, James, Pia, and Naima. Out of those six people, Naima was the most entertaining and current and did a song in a genre that I'm most interested in. I like it when people dance and sing songs less than five years old that I've actually listened to outside of Idol, okay? Does Paul dance? Maybe I should watch him... As you can see, I don't take this show very seriously, which is why I only half watch it and don't vote. :shrug:
  11. shan

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    Ditto...

    Yeah, this confuses me too.
  12. Kruss

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    The Haley/anal comments are from them saying the faces she makes while singing look like she's getting...

    Crude, yes.
  13. shan

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    :eek:
  14. my little pony

    my little pony snarking for AZE

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    that quote is the first interesting thing i've heard about her
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  15. Allskate

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    I don't know who you might be referring to. ;)

    I'm not big into screaming, but I think some screaming is better than other screaming. IMO, Adam screams better than the other Idol contestants who have screamed.

    Didn't think you did. My point was simply that, for me, "interesting" compensates only so much for vocal problems.

    I'm not sure I would categorize it as dancing. :lol: It's kind of a combination of flapping and staggering. I don't particularly care for it. But, it's certainly different.
  16. PeterG

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    Some AI critics also refer to this type of singing as like they are "taking a sh.." on stage - they close their eyes, scrunch up their face and even sometimes growl out their lyrics. (Which Haley does by the way, it's so affected it's embarrassing!)

    I guess we've moved on from "taking a..." to "having anal sex"... :eek:
  17. shan

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    It is cringeworthy... :scream:
  18. LuckyCharm

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    Thanks for the explanation.:)
  19. love skating

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    Haley reminds me of Amber Corwin.
  20. taf2002

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    That's it! I couldn't think who she reminds me of. Thanks.
  21. Kruss

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    I still call her BabyGenieFrancis myself.
  22. taf2002

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    Is Scotty a bass or baritone? I thought he was a bass but my friend thinks he's a baritone. Neither of us are sure.
  23. Aceon6

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    He calls himself a baritone. In our choir, he would have been a bass/baritone.
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    Thanks
  25. Allskate

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    Casey's latest tweet: "I AM out of the hospital, feeling so energetic too. I owe it all to #Tigerblood"

    I hope his medical problems are under control and he is able to stay in the competition.
  26. skatesindreams

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    I hope that Casey is feeling better, and able to continue, also.
  27. shan

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    He seriously said "tigerblood"? :scream:
  28. Rob

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    I think my 2 favorite voices of those I have seen on AI are Jacob and Melinda Doolittle. I usually only watch an episode here or there so I haven't seen everyone. I came across Melinda when flipping channels and I watched the rest of that season just for her.
  29. Allskate

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    I think Melinda is very talented. I just didn't like her music choices, and she was a bit boring in terms of personality. I would have loved to have seen more of this side of her when she was on Idol:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9ZEx-PXdt4&feature=player_embedded

    As I said before, I don't think everyone is going to appreciate his sense of humor.
  30. taf2002

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    There are 2 things I don't like about Jacob's voice. The 1st is his vibrato. It makes his voice sound shaky at times. The other is that he sings a lot of notes that sound just not quite on key. Sometimes he holds a note that starts off being not on key & then becomes on key. I don't know quite how to describe it.
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    I saw on MJs blog that they've stopped the live audiences at dress rehersals. No more song spoilers. :(

    I'll be they're taping everything and don't want anybody to know. :sekret:
  32. my little pony

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    dont want anyone to know what they really sounded like / grassy knoll]
  33. taf2002

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    I don't really care if they pretape as long as they aren't enhancing the voices in any way. After all, the CDs we buy are seldom live. And we I Tivo the show & what it later then it's the same as taped at that point. Just like the west coach is seeing it taped.
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  34. Aceon6

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    From other posters responses to him, I guess it's a matter of taste. I don't care for singers who slide into key, but some folks like it. I guess I was spoiled by being exposed to Mel Torme and Ella Fitzgerald. Those two could sing between the keys and make it sound like the song was written that way. In less capable hands, it just sounds off to me.
  35. PeterG

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    That will not happen. This is.........(SeacrestPauseTM).........American Idol!!!