Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by PeterG, Mar 16, 2011.
I guess all of his fans he gained during the show ditched him when he won.
I shouldn't complain because I didn't vote. But if I had I would have either gone with the best voice-Crystal Bowersox or the body/face-Casey James. Even Big Mike would have been an improvement over Lee. Lee should have come in about 9th or 10th.
He sounded like a lowing cow, IMO.
I'm trying to figure out why they chose that song as a single. It's boring and going to go nowhere.
I hope they have Crystal on to perform. When was the last time a runner-up was not invited back?
Theme weeks are back. Motown next week. I wonder what Scotty will do? Has there been a country cover of a Motown song?
Jennifer Hudson is performing next on next week's results show, which is nice. And Sugarland is performing, too. I think I prefer the Blackeyed Peas. I can't stand that last Sugarland single.
I thought they were avoiding themes which keep people in specific genres. I thought they were going to stick to stuff like "80's" or "Billboard Hits" or things which encompass genres of all kinds. I guess there is nothing stopping someone changing a Motown song to a country version but it isn't going to be easy and it is certainly a disadvantage.
Or it could be the best/most interesting thing he's ever done. We'll see. I'm excited for a theme week. Some of these people can't choose a good song to save their lives and have to practically be forced into picking a good song. It can't get much worse than this week, anyway.
This might turn out to be a good thing for Scotty. He's been singing only country recently and he's largely appealing to country fans. That's fine for now, but it would help him stay on the show longer if he branched out, and this could be a good time to do that.
He has sung other than country before this show. In fact, he said in an interview that he sang a couple of non-country songs in his auditions. He's also in his school choir, which probably does not sing country songs.
He also mentioned that he was a big Elvis fan. Elvis did some Motown songs, right? Didn't he do Unchained Melody? We'll see. Aside from Scotty, I don't see Motown being a huge challenge for the contestants as long as they've cleared a lot of songs. Hopefully it will encourage some less boring song choices. I really liked season 8's Motown night. I still remember Allison's and Adam's performances.
Have the Idol winners with the most successful musical careers thereafter, had their base in the "Country" genre? (I'm thinking Clarkson/Underwood.)
Underwood for sure. Clarkson has been on the country charts twice (is actually at #1 right now!) but only as a guest on duets. She has not ventured into solo territory except when her lead single from Idol, A Moment Like This, got some play on the country chart. However, plenty of other artists from Idol have done well on country, people you may have forgotten about. Bucky Covington and Josh Gracin come to mind right away.
I hope everybody makes the song their own, updating it to fit them (while being respectful to the original). I like how Pat made this one her own:
Pat Benatar - Seven Rooms Of Gloom
Do you like the hair?
Scotty could make any Smokey Robinson song into a country song. Good songs work in most (if not all) genres. I remember seeing Annie Lennox play some of the Eurythmics rockier songs on MuchMusic acoustically with only a guitar accompanying her...and they were amazing!
Scotty won't have ANY problem choosing a song. Berry Gordy was a big supporter of country music and there were country divisions within Motown Records the whole time he was in charge. TG Sheppard was a Motown artist!
Have you ever heard her version of A Whiter Shade of Pale? Beautiful. Love her.
Aceon, thank for the info on Motown's country labels. I didn't know about that. Assuming those songs are cleared, that would make things easier for Scotty. But, I'm really kind of hoping he branches out. All of his performances have kind of blended together in my mind.
I think that the country contestants who haven't made the finale generally have had much better success with recording careers than other contestants. So, I get why Scotty has targeted that audience now, but I still think he would benefit in the competition from doing a couple of non-country songs. It's not like it would prevent him from getting a country recording contract. Casey James and even Danny Gokey were able to get country recording contracts.
What year was that?
Scotty could sing the Mervin part of any Temptations song.
Seriously, country to Motown isn't as hard a transition, there are story songs, easy melodies and so on. Diana Ross had a range of about six notes, it's safe to sing any of her songs.
The problem with doing Motown is that some of those songs are sacred & the contestants are bound to fcuk them up. Sacriledge!
That is all part of knowing what songs to pick. If the contestant doesn't know any better then they deserve the criticism and to possibly go home. If they are good enough they can take a "sacred" song and make it work but I'm not sure there is anyone in this group capable of doing that.
I felt there was so much potential when we got the top 40 or so. However, there isn't one single vocalist in here who can blow me away. I thought Lauren had it but I think her initial audition was just really good vocally. I don't know if she can wow me anymore although she is still one of my favorites. Pia is good but she just isn't for me. I miss the days of Kelly Clarkson, Carrie Underwood, Adam Lambert, etc. People who could give you the chills and bring the house down. Still a better group than last year, though and better than the group before Adam, Allison, Kris.
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I have a feeling we're just getting going with a lot of them. Pia, James, Lauren, Scotty, Casey, and Stefano all have pretty great potential. Some of the best contestants don't fully bloom until the top 8, 7, 6 time. Think Kris, Vonzell, and Syesha. Just relax and enjoy the ride, we are coming off a pretty blah week. It'll pick up eventually.
I agree. I do not expect everyone to master the art of learning a new song and preparing it so it comes across well both live and on TV. Frankly, many established artists haven't mastered it, so why are we expecting it of these kids? The Top 8 will have a month of doing this, and will figure out what works for them.
James almost has it. I noticed it in the Top 13 show when he turned his profile to the camera before he went up into scream-land. I think Stefano and Casey are getting there. Jacob still needs work to find the best angles for the cameras. Most of the girls haven't yet found the way to sing to the crowd as opposed to the judges. Once everyone has to work less on the TV side, I expect the vocals to be better.
I hope so because this week was pretty dull.
I think that had a lot to do with the song choices.
I do think the contestants will improve in terms of stage presence and pitch as they get a little more experience and confidence and a spot on the tour is no longer on the line. I'm also hoping that some of them will take a few more risks in terms of song choices once they make the tour.
Also, different song choices might force some of the contestants to improve their stage presence. If Stefano chooses a more uptempo song and isn't trying to look so sincere, he might open his eyes. Also, if they let Paul play his guitar, he might not move around like a drunk chicken on stage.
Everyone had the instrument option last week. Strange that Paul didn't take them up on it.
If that's true, it may not have been communicated to Paul - or not in time -- because he had responded to someone's question last week by saying that instruments were not allowed yet. Casey was in the hospital until Sunday and did his song later than the rest, so maybe that was why he played an instrument. For a whole lot of things, Nigel has been changing the rules and format as they go along.
Anyway, I hope that Paul does start playing the guitar and gives the staggering a rest. Not sure how well that will work with Motown week.
If Paul had played an instrument, he would have had to omit his dance solo.
his St Vitus Dance?
Apparently Paul is a hit with gay guys. All the guys at my stylists shop love him. They rank Pia as number one girl and Paul as number one guy. They think he's interesting. It's going to be interesting to see how far he goes in the comp.
If he's a big a hit with the gay voters as Kris Allen was, he's going verrrry far. I'll keep an ear out for the convos at my gym re paul. Some of the things said about Kris Allen during his season ay my gym I won't mention . That said, I think Paul's the first guy out.
I still don't understand how Lee won. He was the definition of a schlubby bar singer. It was probably Simon kissing his ass each week for some inexplicable reason.
I think Paul strongly resembles Bradley Cooper but not hitting as high on the hotness factor.
OT, but TMZ posted the headline "Bradley Cooper and Renee Zellweger Split" and the entire article consisted of "this makes sense."
I think Jacob will get the boot before Paul does, though I agree that with Brian that he's not nearly as hot as Bradley Cooper. There are women who like Paul, too. It's not just the gay guys.
well, i mean that goes without saying. this is idol, after all, where the likes of clay aiken, taylor hicks, and lee dewyze have all been deemed "omG CuuTTE"
Every time I see Scott McCreedy, he looks more and more like Clay Aiken. First it was the eyes...now it's the strange semi-smile/smirk...
I hope they're going to get better. They did have some great songs a few years ago. Too bad most of them can't sing. I was really about the autotune stuff. When I was at Clay's concert last month he was making fun of the autotune and the fact that you practically have to use it to get on the radio nowadays. And apparently you don't even have to sing, you can just speak to the microphone. Clay's version of "I Kissed a Girl."
I don't think she was bad. Just not great.
That was the only bit I had to fast forward.
I don't know how gay guys like their men, or even how other women like their men, I know that for me a guy has to be interesting first. Lee is like Dead Man Walking, and I'm not crazy about his singing, either, so um, hell no. Kris was kind of like Lee to me, only he could sing. But he was very boring and forgettable, so I didn't really find him attractive, either.
Clay and Taylor were both rather polarizing. I didn't watch A2, so I don't know how I would react to Clay there; I have become his fan by watching clips from his concerts. He is an amazing entertainer and I love his sense of humor (snark) and quick wit. Smart, funny and talented, what's not to like? I quite liked Taylor, but not as much as his fans. I loved Elliott during that season. And yes, I think Elliott's sexy and cute. So there you go.
Here is most of a new song from Kelly Clarkson's upcoming album. She performed it at some benefit this past weekend. Too bad it cuts off right before she was about to kill it, haha.
This is not a single, I am sure, but sounds great.
Paul is a hit with gay guys? Last time I checked I'm gay and I don't find anything special about him... His voice is annoying and he looks like a spastic chipmunk when he tries to "dance" on stage. I'm looking for the best voice and he ain't it. Sure he's got a nice smile and sorta cute but those guys are a dime a dozen... Pia has the best voice but I still don't think she will win...
You only have to wait six months to hear the ending.
Casey Abrams isn't in the photos from last night. I wonder if he's still sick.
That was funny -- both the song choice and the Chipmunks impersonation. He does seem like a good entertainer, even if I don't like his taste in music. But, I still don't see the sexy. I was suprised to hear JLo and Melinda both say they found Casey Abrams sexy, too. I really like him, but "sexy" isn't the first word that comes to mind when I see him.
Latest edition of Idoloonies is up. There's an interview with Ashton Jones in the last segment.
Thanks Shan. Jason Averett is asserting himself a little more in the graphics.
There are a few places where I disagree with Slezak. I know the judges and producers and Iovine like Stefano and he's one of the cuter ones, but I'm not convinced that he is going to get to the top three, especially if he doesn't change his performing style.
I also disagree that Paul's not taking Idol seriously. I think he went on the show to do his best and his music career is important to him. The fact that he didn't play an instrument this week doesn't mean he's not taking it seriously. I see it as exactly the opposite. The Idol producers might have told Slezak that everyone had the chance to play an instrument last week, but the Idol vocal coach told EW that the contestants weren't told this until Friday and they go into the studios on Friday morning to record. There really wasn't much chance to change songs and pick something that would allow Paul to showcase good guitar playing. (OTOH, because Casey was in the hospital, he didn't record on Friday and changed his song choice from a Boyz II Men song to Smells Like Teen Spirit and played an instrument. But, I don't think he really had much time to change it up and make it his own, so I'm not sure it really paid off.
I do agree with Slezak that, as a result of the changes this season, we're not going to see any interesting musical choices like Kris' "Heartless" and David's "Hello." I really liked their "Alone" montage.
So God wanted Ashthon to be a wild card pick despite not being the best singer that night? Just so he could send her packing the next week? Alrighty.
They were way too harsh on Jacob and not harsh enough on Paul. Or they should've been given the same treatment. Paul's just getting a pass because of his pre-idol music (which has no relevance on how AWFUL he's been on the show) and because of his whole quirky/folksy vibe. Meh.
Wasn't a fan of Kendra's voice. Her upper register was not pleasing to my ears. It was shrill and whiny.
I don't know about Stefano. I'm pegging him as the darkhorse this season, so that means at least T5, but beyond that, I don't know. He'll have to continue to turn in great performances and have everybody continue to falter (e.g. this past week). Motown Week should be up his wheel house so I think he'll be safe this week.
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