Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by PeterG, Mar 30, 2010.
don't drag it out Simon. u know u r not using the save.
Thank you, Simon, thank you thank you.
Shoot we had Tim and Katie in the bottom 3 and failed to get rid of either one????
So only 3 women left with Crystal, Siobhan and Katie? We know Katie is going either this week or next unless something crazy happens. So much for the season of the women, eh? Crystal and Siobhan should hopefully be around for a while.
This season is exactly like Season 4. A female will win, but 3 girls were eliminated the first 3 weeks. In fact, 5 of the top 7 were guys the year Carrie won.
Anybody But Tim next week to go through. One week at a time until we just listen to Lee, Casey and Crystal sing three songs.
Tim and Katie are the Kristy Lee Cooks of this season (always in bottom 3).
Funniest moment was Ryan losing his composure when Big Mike jostled him. I haven't seen Ryan do that since he almost piloted himself right off the stage riding that "flying carpet" contraption in the S7 finale.
Wow, this season is sooo anemic, scarcely any breakout star potential, save Crystal and maybe Lee. Had high hopes for Siobhan but not so much now. Most of the rest fall within 3 categories: silly (Tim), dull (Katie/Casey/Mike) and loathsome (Andrew).
Yea, I'd have to agree with this. What's sad is that we *COULD* have had a top 10 of Crystal, Katelyn, Siobhan, Didi, Lilly, Alex, Lee, Michael, Jermaine Purifory, and Aaron/Casey. And it actually would have been a pretty great season. Instead we are stuck with what we have....3 good ones, 4 average, and 2 crappy...... And they just dumped Didi, one of the best left (though not last night). UGH, voters (and judges re: Purifory).
Tim and Andrew have got to be 2 of the worst Top 9 finalists of any season. John Stevens and Scott Savol are a couple who were maybe as bad....but I can't think of too many others...
I actually think Katie is finding her footing and at this point I can envision her making top 5. I see her sounding a bit better every week and I think she could make a Kim Locke/Syesha type turnaround (though she's not nearly as good as either of those). A lot depends on Casey and Aaron who mostly bore me but do well enough and are cute enough to hold on each week. Tim and Andrew have got to be the next to go. I can't imagine who else....but then I never saw Didi's oust coming until it ran me over.
I find this statement hilarious. How soon we forget the likes of Ryan Starr, Haley Scarnato, Mikalah Gordon, Carmen Rasmusen, Camille Velasco, and Corey Clark.
And I'm sure I missed a few since I skipped a couple of seasons and left out the easy punchlines (Sanjaya, John Stevens, Gokey, etc). My point is, there have been MUCH WORSE contestants than Andrew. There have been much better too, but I'm not ready to relegate him to the Ryan Starr bin yet. And it's all relative. It pained me to list some of the ones above because I wanted them to do better. I liked Camille Velasco despite her enunciation issues (Allison had NOTHING on Camille) and even John Stevens had his share of Idol moments.
ETA: And how could I forget Nikki McKibbin and Jim Verraros.
I think Katelyn and Alex definitely should have made it to the Top 12, but I can't complain because I didn't vote.
I think Didi dug a bit of a grave for herself starting last week when she complained that she didn't know what the judges wanted from her. I'm sure she was sincere in her confusion but it came off a little whiny, which voters hate.
I get what you're saying, but what has made it so painful is that there's sooo much cannon fodder in this single season. Yeah, you had the inevitable John Stevens or Carmen Rasmussen in every season, but it's like we have 6-7 Carmens this time around.
I can't believe the most amazing girl was voted out. Come on. Didi ?!
I'm just curious why you say this. He seems a bit clueless to me and not very talented......but sweet, maybe?
This is what I would like to see happen, but I don't have a lot of confidence in the American public.
Yes, every season we get some real stinkers in the top 12, but this season we've had more and the early elimination of Lilly, Katelynn, Alex, and Didi is not helping things.
I'm not at all convinced that Crystal is going to win. In fact, I'd bet a guy is going to win during this "year of the girls." I think Crystal may be the only female in top five and I wouldn't even be surprised if the final four were Aaron, Mike, Casey, and Lee, though I do think Crystal will last a little longer than that unless people start assuming she's safe. The girls are dropping like flies despite crap performances from Tim and very mediocre performances by Andrew.
I don't mean Andrew is a loathsome person, but I do find his performances loathsome, very mediocre....
Ugh, this season just keeps getting worse. Didi was crap this week, but she was one of the few contestants who was somewhat interesting and had potential. Yet she goes home before prom queen Katie and emo hair Tim??? Seriously?!
If Siobhan doesn't pick it up again next week I may just start skipping the show itself and catching Crystal's performances online.
I never saw anything in Didi so I am really confused by all the wuzrobbing with her elimination. I see no difference in whether she went this week or in 3 weeks. She did have a different voice but it was still not a very good one and she had such a limited range. I winced often during her performances when she struggled to get to those higher notes. There is such a clear bottom tier and top tier this year, she was definitely in the bottom for me so I don't care when she went home so long as it was before anyone in the top tier.
Honestly I'm struggling to figure out who the top tier even is (aside from Crystal)
That's pretty much my thought. Tim, Andrew, Katie can all go, although I'd prefer Tim went first. If Shioban continues down the path she's been on the last two weeks, she can join the loser list. I like Mike and Lee and Casey can be OK. I agree with Allskate that Crystal is unlikely to win. You can't just sing. You've got to convince people that they should bother picking up the phone and vote.
For me the top tier at the moment is Crystal, Casey, Lee, Mike and Siobhan
Everyone is else is in the bottom. Siobhan didn't do so well this week and some people don't appreciate her screaming but I think she has made a big enough name for herself and created a large enough fanbase to easily make it into the top 5. There is always a chance for an upset but I think those will be our final 5 and I think Crystal, Lee and Casey will be our final 3 with Siobhan an option to replace Casey.
I think the are middle tiers, and I thought Didi was neither top tier nor bottom tier. I like her so much more than Tim and also think that she has been significantly better than Andrew. I prefer her to Katie, though Katie might have done a better job this particular week.
Siobhan needs to change her approach. She's too quirky to also get away with lots of shrieking. Being so formulaic also undermines any image I have of her making artistic choices. She definitely makes the show more interesting, though, so I'd like to see her stick around for quite some time.
Lee is talented, but he's kind of a poor man's David Cook. David has a better voice and better musical skills, not to mention better stage presence and a willingness to rock out more. I think that too many of his potential fans might end up thinking he's too much of a wimp or a bore.
I agree. I think Lee might make top three at the most, but he doesn't seem like a potential winner to me. I wasn't even that big of a David Cook fan (although he's definitely and easily better than Chris Daughtry), but Lee is nowhere near him in terms of originality, voice, or presence. There's something about Lee that seems really insecure and even with his talent I find it sometimes uncomfortable to watch him even though I do find him pretty hot.
at "loser list" -- that's quite a list this season...
You can't really compare him to DC or Daughtry in terms of winning because of their competition. Remember who is HIS competition this season. I think this will be another Taylor Hicks season regardless of who wins. They'll do a couple of talk shows, make a record and then they'll show up on TV Guide channels Where Are They Now?
Buh-bye Brooke White 2.0.
I'm glad Tim wasn't the one going home. They've been trying to throw him under the bus multiple times and he's still there. Except for one bad night, he's been pretty decent. The talent is low this year, so he has every right to be there.
Siobhan has had two bad weeks, I hope she'll find her mojo back next week.
I agree, especially after Kara spoke to him like he was slow..."Do you understand what we're saying to you?" Yes he does Kara, he just doesn't give a rat's a**.
I didn't watch before the top 12, so I have no clue as to the wuzrobbing for Didi. To my ears, she NEVER belonged in the top 12, based on the performances I've seen from her the last three weeks. For some folks to think she was one of the best females, or the best, with Crystal still in there, makes me
Crystal, Lee and Mike are it for me. Casey can stay on for his face, and has his good moments vocally as well. The rest are various levels of things you'd scrape off a shoe.
I do hope that Tim stays to top 5 at least, just because I'm and it would totally f*ck with the judges, as well as it seems many posters in this thread. So what if he grins while they criticize him? He's probably thinking, "dude, I'm marginally talented, and I'm performing week after week for millions of people, with tons of tweenagers drooling over me. F you! I'm going to enjoy the ride while it lasts"
I think it's because this season is so weak that he can make it to the top five. But, I don't think he can win unless he gets a lot more comfortable and shows more personality. This is largely a popularity competition. I think people find kids who are humble and shy (even if it's an act) to be much more appealing than adult men who appear to lack confidence and stage presence.
In Kara's defense -- and I don't say that phrase frequently -- he was grinning like an idiot. I understand that his tactic is to get by on the fake smile and fake personality, but that part with the grins was kind of bizarre. His prepared story about smiling because he had so much fun was a good pageanty answer, but clearly was B.S.. He wasn't just smiling after he finished. He was smiling a weird smile in direct response to criticism, even the next day. It was kind of an idiot's smile.
But, I do credit Tim with being savvy enough to figure out how to get the tweenyboppers to keep him in the competition despite his cheesy and weak performances. Kara may not be smart enough to realize that the criticism (and the resulting sympathy votes), hair, and smiles are largely what is keeping him in the competition, but Tim realizes it. As that interview after the show the other day explicitly shows, he's put a lot of thought into how to manipulate the audience with what he says and does when he's not performing musically. He should have been gone the week he sang Apologize. (Alex, Joe, Katelynn, Lilly, etc. are definitely more talented than he is.) He has yet to have one impressive performance and I don't think he has much in the way of any musical understanding or identity. I think he knows he's not going to have a musical career (and therefore doesn't really care if people think he has talent), and is fine with whatever fame and fortune he can get out of this gig. It's probably going to be more lucrative than the swimsuit competitions he's done. Maybe he can get a part in the next High School Musical movie.
IMO, Crystal and Lee could take lessons from Tim. No, not vocal or music lessons, and I'm not suggesting that they be as cheesy and smarmy as Tim is, but they could benefit from learning that the performances when the music isn't on are just as important with the voters as the actual musical performances. I think they could go too soon if people don't start to find them more likeable.
Sorry if I missed this but did anyone see the pic of Jennifer Hudson on MJsbigblog? I assumed she had her baby but never even heard the announcement. Well she looks FABULOUS! She is a spokesperson for one of the weight loss programs now. I actually hope she doesn't lose anymore, she looks great the way she is and any more she will look downright skinny.
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