I think Amanda has already served her time for the slander charges against Lumumba, so I am not concerned with those charges. I do not believe she murdered Meredith Kercher. No, I do not know all the facts that the Italian courts know. Of course I do not. No one in this thread does, as none of us are part of that court as far as I know. If anyone is, I would love to hear that person present the facts, though I doubt they would be allowed to disclose everything, in which case it is a moot point anyway. Based on the evidence I have been able to collect and read, which is probably more than some and less than others in this thread, I do not believe she killed Meredith, and I believe the court is wrong. Yes, I am biased by my own justice system - anyone would be, and I won't apologize for that. Every single person in this thread is making a judgment based on the facts they have been able - or willing - to collect and read. That is the way human beings operate, and that is what we do in every single thread on this website and in others. We give, argue, and discuss our opinions based on the facts we believe, in whatever way we came across them. I take exception to the people who have decided to accuse every single one of us who believe she is innocent of, essentially, being idiot, ignorant, egoistic Americans who don't know their assholes from their heads. I do not see a difference between our opinions, formed by the facts that we have read, and yours, except that we happen to have come to different conclusions. I do not have cable, I haven't been following this on the news, I sought out the information on my own, from both sides of the case. And I do believe that the evidence is inconclusive, to say the least. I believe she has not been proven beyond a reasonable doubt. I do not know if reasonable doubt exists in Italian courts, but if it does not then I will say - and perhaps this does make me an egotistical American - that I think a person absolutely should always be innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. I believe in that right. And I do not believe they have proven it beyond a reasonable doubt. And now I think I should stay away from this thread.