Alissa Czisny--Any Updates?

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  1. NadineWhite

    NadineWhite Well-Known Member

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    Anybody that knows me and my posts over the years knows that I'm not Alissa Czisny's biggest fan, but that all changed when she miraculously started landing 6/7 triple programs a few years ago and was becoming consistent for the first time ever in over a decade. My respect for her went up immeasureably. She proved that old adage correct "never give up". Her perseverance is admirable, it's just too bad that her body had to go and get injured. Yet as always she doesn't give up.

    I believe in Alissa and believe she will make it out of Sectionals and into Nationals on the strength of her skating. And I sincerely believe, for Sectionals, she doesn't need triple jumps in order to grab that last spot nor should she. As long as she skates clean with a beautiful well-constructed program, emotion, gorgeous spins, nice 2axels (with 2toes added on), et al, she should make it. Her skating really is head & shoulders above those other young un's listed and rightfully so. Jmho as always. :)
     
  2. reese

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    I would be stunned if Alissa makes it to Nationals with zero triple jumps. Mids is the toughest field and even with Kiri gone, she would need help from the others already mentioned to sneak into 4th.
     
  3. Marco

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    She may be conveniently assigned to some international during Sectionals. She would have to obtain a min score anyway to have a shot.
     
  4. VIETgrlTerifa

    VIETgrlTerifa Well-Known Member

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    I would love for that to happen. That way she still has a chance to make it to Nationals without running the risk of having one of the other strong skaters at Mids to miss out.
     
  5. oliver

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    What international competitions are there in NOvember?
     
  6. ManiDani

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    I think Ice Challenge is in November.
     
  7. jlai

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    I think if Czisny has demonstrated competition readiness she would have been assigned already. I guess she hasnt proven readiness yet. What is the min she is supposed to get?
    If anyone in the field deserves a sr B it is Cain who is in v good shape and it also results in an easier MW field
     
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  8. Ziggy

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    As much as I love Czisny, it would be utter insanity to send her to an international competition when she's not capable of landing any triples. :shuffle:
     
  9. maureenfarone

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    Ice Challenge Graz is scheduled 19-24 November this year. It directly conflicts with Mids.
     
  10. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to Nationals!

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    4CC/Olympic TES minimums are LADIES SP 20.00 FS 36.00.

    I agree with this!
     
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  11. Ziggy

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    Cain was already at Nebelhorn. Spread the wealth! ;)
     
  12. euterpe

    euterpe Well-Known Member

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    Cain was already assigned to Nebelhorn where she won the bronze medal. I doubt she would get another international assignment at this point. The other ladies at Mids are Bell, Long and Miller, who all did JGPs. It's possible that Alissa could get Ice Challenge. But it wouldn't look good if she did all doubles there and finished off the podium, even if she did make the minimums in the process.
     
  13. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to Nationals!

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    In the past, USFS has rewarded singles skaters who previously medaled in their first Senior B by assigning them to a second one (Messing and Aaron last year, for example). That said, I know USFS usually prefers not to give a bye through Sectionals to singles skaters who don't already have one.

    Alissa can still be assigned to a Senior B after Mids (maybe USFS is waiting for her to qualify for Nationals first?).
     
  14. olympic

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    I remember reading the last article on Czisny, which stated her team was gunning (hoping) for a slot at Coupe International de Nice at the end of this month. That obviously didn't happen, so I wonder what happened that even Flatt is getting sent instead?

    Her choices are a little tough - (1) Sectionals to face a tough field and slight possibility of elimination; or (2) Ice Challenge, to avoid Sectionals but risking embarrassment of a subpar performance which wouldn't do her any good internationally. I sincerely hope she simply dialed it back at Regionals, doing what she had to, and her lack of jumps is not a manifestation of a more serious problem.
     
  15. Stephanie

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    I know neither competition is on the USFS site, but maybe Alissa could go to either the NRW Trophy or Golden Spin of Zagreb, both of which are in early December, provided that she qualifies to nationals from sectionals?

    If he manages to get healthy, Lysacek needs a late international, too...although the odds of him ever competing again are of course very debatable!
     
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  16. just wondering

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    My guess is she either goes to Ice Challenge in Austria or withdraws from Sectionals. Beautiful, beautiful skater, with exceptional skills in all areas except jumps, at the moment. Regarding jumps, her practice ice (this is confirmed by someone who watched) and programs were not strong at EGL. Austria will give her a bit more wiggle room than Sectionals when it comes to executing jumps on demand. When judged against the other talented girls at Mids, Alissa will struggle to post a top 4 score. I suspect her team and USFS know this by now and are carefully weighing the next step.

    Love Alissa and wish her well in all her endeavors. If the fate of healing shines on her, may she reach her Olympic dream!
     
  17. Coco

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    I will be really shocked if they send her to an international because of her lack of triples at regionals.

    Didn't they not let Kimmie Meissner go to a GP because she only had three triples (toe, salchow and loop)?

    A much more palatable way to clear Alissa's path to Nationals is to give Cain the 2nd Senior B.
     
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  18. fenway2

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    And Ashley has earned it.
     
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  19. just wondering

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    Agreed. I just didn't know if they'd send her to a second Senior B this fall.
     
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  20. Iceman

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    Someone asked if she had Slovak blood. I spent a considerable amount of time searching the internet to try to find out what the national origin of her surname is and came up, to my surprise, empty handed. Does anyone know?
     
  21. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to Nationals!

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    KIDS' QUESTIONS - DECEMBER 2005 ALISSA CZISNY: http://www.usfsa.org/Magazine.asp?id=57&issue=32361
     
  22. mag

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    ITA. If they want to make it easier for Czisny, send someone who is likely to beat her to an international for experience. Czisny doesn't need to exposure and, as much as I like her skating, if she isn't landing triples, she needs to earn her way through Sectionals the same way RF is. (RF was also injured last season.)
     
  23. Carolla5501

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    The problem is the new qualifying rules... that seems to dictate to me that USFS send as many people as possible to get the 'required' score just in case...

    Not saying they should or should not send Alissa, but they may want to spread the events around more now.
     
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  24. Iceman

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    Thanks, Sylvia. Should have just asked here rather than searching for so long.
     
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  25. jlai

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    Going by the JGP short program, it's possible Miller hasn't completely gotten back to her old form since her foot surgery. Given that, I think Cain and Bell are likely contenders for 1-2 at Midwestern and the last two spots up for grabs among Long, Carly Gold, Miller and Czisny.

    I hope they are all healthy by then and skate their best
     
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  26. littlefeetsk8

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    How does Miller's showing at Estonia play into the Alyssa situation..?
     
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  27. Sylvia

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    My assumption is that Hannah Miller is still getting her confidence back after her injury layoff this summer. Midwestern Sectionals will be held at Miller's home club rink so she will have a lot of support there. It should be a good competition with Alissa, Hannah, Mariah Bell (SW Regional winner), and Ashley Cain (SW bye), plus Barbie Long and Carly Gold, who are among the Senior ladies competing at UGL Regionals in next week.
     
  28. NadineWhite

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    Over in the K&C poster chipso1 said that Alissa's Regionals FS is up on IN, so I checked it out and she honestly looks really really good. :)

    Her doubles were done with ease, especially her 2axels (+GOE btw), and she still has her innate elegance, posture, spins, and smile. And her dress is nice per usual, though I honestly wish she would have skated to "La Vie En Rose" again (her signature piece imho) in that beautiful breathtaking pink dress. :cool:

    http://web.icenetwork.com/video/?content_id=31152773 (she starts at approximately 24:30; btw Yuko Sato's hair is shorter and looks lighter with blonde streak). :)
     
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  29. oliver

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    I thought Alissa's double axels looked much better than in the past, but her skating seemed slow and cautious, and her spins were not nearly as fast and impressive. Don't know if that's a result of the new levels requirements or if she's lost her confidence.
     
  30. Ziggy

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    Or maybe (just a thought) it's a result of her just having returned to skating after a bad injury. ;P