Alexandra Paul & Mitchell Islam

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  1. pani

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    Yes - i think this team need to go to ice dance school, where they will work not only on skating, but on overall strenghts, with dance coaches, ect.
    Not sure Camerlengo will take them, because nw he work with W-P.
    As for Z-Sh - i think they could. After V-M wil retier they nedd toave strong team from Canada again.
  2. skatingfan04

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    :) I think Zoueva in particular would work well with them. She seems to really appreciate elegance, and has a talent for hilighting that in her programs, like she has always done with Tessa. There must be very few ice dancers trained extensively in Ballet (as Tessa and Alexandra both are), and I'm sure Marina would make use of Alexandra's elegance, and Mitchell's as well. I've always been impressed by him and Scott Moir, because they both have to skate with clasically trained dancers, which could potentially make them look poor (in terms of posture, extension, etc) by comparison, but neither of them ever do. They always look as elegant as their partners.
  3. Pratfall

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    Have there been any hints about to Alex's recovery ?
  4. skatingfan04

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    I haven't seen anything.:( There's quite a gap between NHK and Nationals, so I hope she uses the time to take it easy and make sure she's 100% healed.

    On a side note, did anyone catch Gilles/Poirier's SD from challenge? They look quite good for a new team. They scored a 58, but seeing how this is a domestic competition and not an international one, it's hard to judge where they will stand at nationals. They seem to have left Ralph/Hill in the dust at sectionals, though, so I suspect they will be a challenge for Paul/Islam as well, given the season they've had. Does anyone know if Gilles/Poirier are eligable for worlds this season?
  5. Sylvia

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    Piper Gilles won't be eligible to compete for Canada until the 2012-13 season.
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    Alex and Mitch did an interview with CTV News. :) Their segment begins at about 54:35. Looks like they're already back in training, albeit with some expected restrictions.
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    That's good to hear....thanks for posting lavenderblue :)
  8. skatingfan04

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    Thanks for the link! :D Nice to see them back on the ice. They seem to be in good spirits, which is awesome considering the season they've had.
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    Nice to see them in good spirits, I really like this team, hope they come back stronger... Good luck at the Nationals.
  10. pani

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    Agree - good luck to them!
    Gillis-Porie had very high marks at Challeng, so it will be difficult for Alexandra and Mitch to make team this year, but i hope they will made this :)
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    Gillis won't be released by USFS in time for this year's championships, even if Gilles/Poirier podium at Canadian Nationals.

    Mitchell/Islam's top competition for the third spot at 4C's and Worlds is Ralph/Hill.
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    Why? In 2010 Piper skated at JWCh 12 March. So why she couldnt skate for Caada at WCh in 2012?
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    Because USFS can refuse to release her for up to four years after she last medaled at Jr. Worlds -- remember Morgan Matthews? -- and she said in an interview that they told her they'd release her after this season.
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    When she get medal at JWCh? I thought ISU rule is she must have two years quarantine, if Federation will not release her.
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    Gilles/ Poirier's marks were much too high at challenge. If they got on the podium at Canadians , it would have to mean both P/I and R/H had a disaster.
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    Sorry, not Jr. Worlds. She medalled at JGP in the 2009-2010 season.

    The ISU rule is that she can't compete in championships for another nation for two years after her last international competition for the US AND that she be released by USFS according to the USFS's own release rules, unless USFS refuses and she has/gets citizenship from another country. Then the new Federation can file for an exception. Gilles doesn't have Canadian citizenship.

    Even if she did have Canadian citizenship, USFS refused the release this season, and Skate Canada wanted to cross the USFS, Skate Canada couldn't file for an exception with the ISU until two years after Gilles' last competition, which would be March 2012, and it isn't clear even if the ISU made a snap approval before Nice whether G/P'd be eligible to be a provisional entry at Worlds, given how Worlds entries must be filed at least 30 days before Worlds, in February 2012.

    When Morgan Matthews was denied release, the USFS release rules were published here. If the skater had certain high results, USFS can refuse to release the skater for up to four seasons after their last competition for US, which for Gilles was 2010 Jr. Worlds. According to Gilles, they are holding her for two seasons.
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    I think they could be in team and they could have minimum score at Monblan Throhy in March
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    Pani, from earlier interviews it seems that Piper and Paul have acknowledged and accepted that she will not be released until the 2012-2013 season. This year they want to make a splash nationally and build up their skills as a team. Then next year I imagine they will be eligible for GP's under the split team rules and/or could be assigned as a host pick to Skate Canada.
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    I think waiting until next year is a smart move. (I know they don't have a choice.) With reputation being so important in ice dance, I think another year together, before they compete internationally, will serve them well.
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  20. skatingfan04

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    :DJust wanted to wish all who are celebrating a wonderful holiday season!!

    Canadian nationals are just around the corner, so hopefully we'll be seeing a healthy P/I skate soon.
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    Thanks!
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    tidbit: they were working with tracy wilson a few weeks ago
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    Nice.:D Maybe some time with her will give them a much needed confidence boost.
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    I'm so hoping to see them looking more like themselves next week.:)
    All appendages crossed.
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    Amen to that.:D Honestly though, even though it will be a tough break if they miss worlds, I just really want to see them have good, clean skates more than anything else. Given their season, I'm not expecting to see them skating at 100%, but I think it would give them a boost if they could get through the programs with some confidence, instead of looking scared they way that they have (understandably) all season. I still think they have a really good shot at the bronze, especially since G/P (who the judges seem to love way more that R/H for reasons I can't figure out) are ineligable this year. Fingers (and all other appendages) crossed!!
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    Anyone happen to know if/when the senior dance practices will be broadcast on SkateBuzz??
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    I just hope it's not a case of , first they give you a treat ,then they snatch it away... In the absence of any real information , I'm just planning to go there at the scheduled practice times, and cross my fingers...
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    I think we might be out of luck.:( I believe there was a senior dance practice this afternoon, and Skatebuzz didn't show any of it. I guess we'll just have to wait until Friday to see P/I and the others.:blah:
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    They may only be showing main arena practices (i.e. no cameras in operation at the practice rink).
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    Thanks! I didn't think of that. Maybe there's hope after all.:D
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    Sorry to go off topic, but I just finished watching jr dance and I was really impressed and happy for Poulin/Servant, who won after finishing 5th in 2010 and 4th last year (I've been a fan of theirs since the beginning). :D Did anyone happen to catch it?
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    There's a discussion in the Canadian Nationals sub-forum in Kiss and Cry.
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    I checked out skatebuzz..and today they were showing practices from the main arena. I'm on the pacific coast but I will definitely get up for the dance practice ( SD ) 7 am Pt, 11am AT.
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    I hope they show them tomorrow. They didn't stream today's morning dance practice.
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    LOVED the new choreography. A lot. They looked SOO much better than they have during the seaon. Shame about the placement, though. It seemed that it was the technical levels that got them in the end. Still within striking distance of R/H, but they've got some work to do.
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    I love the fact that they no longer look like V/M clones, but are developing their own style.

    Maybe they never really were clones, but they certainly looked like it to me in the past. With this short dance I can start to appreciate them for their own selves, as the very good ice dancers that they are.