Alexandra Paul & Mitchell Islam

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  1. lavenderblue

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    It is. Here's a video of that singer performing it a few months ago.
     
  2. Pratfall

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    Weirdly, that clip freezes for me as soon as the woman's announcement ends... I'm pouting...

    Ah, that pout must have helped..5th try lucky :lol:
     
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    Here's a longer video. I had quite a bit of trouble with the shorter clip as well, but this one ran very smoothly. The Eisgala coverage begins at around 9:00, with clips of both of P/I's programs starting at about 13:25.
     
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    A lot of beauty singing and skating at one time........
     
  5. skatingfan04

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    Cute picture!! I hope P/I have a great Nationals!! :cheer2:
     
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    Just gorgeous.....thanks for posting skatingfan04. I'm always rooting for those two.
     
  9. skatingfan04

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    Ditto. I'm so glad to see that their fanbase seems to be growing, on facebook and tumblr, in spite of the fact that they haven't had much time in front of the international audience (or even the national one, for that matter).

    I'd love to know what you all think of their chances for the rest of the season, given the latest developments in Canadian dance.

    For those who haven't heard (though i suspect most have), Kaitlyn Weaver broke her fibula a few weeks back, and she had since had successful surgery to repair the injury and is recovering at home (and currently walking on crutches). They have confirmed that they will not be attending nationals, and while no determination has been made about worlds as of yet, I can't see any why that she could possibly be recovered in time for that. I'm a massive W/P fan, and my heart is breaking for them right now, especially since this season was already a rough one for them, and they'll be missing a home town world championships. :(

    Returning to the subjects of this thread, I would say the situation, as tragic as it is, is going to open the door for P/I regardless of where Gilles/Poirier end up placing. I haven't followed this season as closely as I do most years, but it doesn't seem to me like Ralph/Hill or Orford/Williams will have enough to knock P/I off of the podium unless they make a major mistake. Their material just isn't strong enough, especially in a season where P/I have really strong programs which seem to have been well received by judges thus far. So if all goes well, they should be heading off to worlds, which is fabulous for them. Whether they go in the silver or bronze medal position remains to be seen, but given that they've been so close to G/P all season, and that G/P didn't seem to make quite the impact on the GP that was expected of them (don't get me wrong, they had a fantastic first season, especially considering they're such a new team, but I don't think they had that "wow" moment that teams so often have when they start out), I think P/I have a very reasonable chance of beating them as well. I don't think the judges will get away with the same kind of insanity they pulled last year.

    My concern, with W/P out, is about spots for the 2014 Olympics. Virtue/Moir will be first or second, barring some sort of epic disaster (and given that their FD is a total masterpiece, my money's on 1st), meaning that our next team will have to come 11th or 12th for us to earn three berths. Everyone's been rolling their eyes at that one, but I honestly don't think it's that far out of the realm of possibility. I believe Ralph/Hill were 13th at last year's worlds, and I think that both P/I and G/P are stronger skaters that they are, so there's no reason to believe that one of the two teams could finish at least as high. Take into account the fact that with W/P out, everyone below the top 5 will be moving up a spot anyways, and I think it could happen. At least I'm hoping so. It'll be so devistating if, with all the talent we have, there will only be two Olympic spots next year (think Weaver/Poje circa 2010). Fingers crossed!:)
     
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    The problem for Paul/Islam is that they had no GP events this season, where G/P had two. P/I's first International was the US event, where G/P and P/I had high scores, beating Chock/Bates. But neither G/P nor P/I scored as high in their later events as they did at the US event. P/I finished 5th at Nebelhorn, where the medalists were Chock/Bates, Zlobina/Sitnikov and Zhiganshina/Gazsi---all of whom will likely be skating at Worlds. G/P were 4th at SC and 6th at TEB. On ISU World Standings, P/I are #32 and G/P are #42, which means both teams will skate early in the SD.

    Neither team is likely to beat the 3 Russian teams, the 3 US teams, and Cappellini/Lanotte. Teams they have to beat to make top 12 include Guignard/Fabbri, Zlobina/Sitnikov and Zhiganshina/Gazsi.
     
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    I don't want to minimize the problem... but we'll just have to see what shakes out at Canadians and 4CC.. we have seen very talented , hard working teams manage to catch a bit of momentum before.. I think it's possible though far from assured for both teams. With P/I, I think they've made good progress at DSC and we haven't seen them in weeks , so there can be more to come from them even this year.

    Their FD ,especially, is an excellent vehicle..and I hope their polka has shaped up a lot. I don't worry so much about the music choice ..not like I did at the beginning of the season. If I/K can get away with their SD, it won't be the music , but the levels that tell the tale.

    ETA;..Um..I wonder if they're taking part in DSC's pay-per-view Skating Gala? it's soooo close to Canadians..but just a hop, skip and Jump down the road... If so , I hope someone will report.
     
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    Paul & Islam are scheduled to perform one of their programs tomorrow night. :)
     
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    Looking good. I'm liking how all the highlights are coming right on cue..go , guys!
     
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    Thank you!
    Its amazing how canadian ice dancers look light on there feets :swoon:
    All the best at Nationals to them (like all other skaters).
    P.S. Its amazing - she look like Tessa :)
     
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    O, and i watched new team - Olson-Hubbel. They look promissing :)
     
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    I'm really liking the way they look right now. There were a few bobbles, but little things like that don't worry me too much. What I did see was an improvement in speed, power and confidence, which I think are going to be the factors that come into play when you consider the fight between them and Gilles/Poirier. Their unison seemed pretty on as well. I can't wait until next weekend! I'm going to be at the Hershey Center to watch the SD and the FD (as well as pairs, men's and ladies free skates and the gala), and I'm actually counting the days down. :D:D:D
     
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    I'm rooting for them to beat out Gilles and Porier too. Enjoy yourself skatingfan04...give a yell out for me :)
     
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    Thanks :D It's my first ever nationals (I've been dreaming of going to one since I was very young), so I'm REALLY excited!! And I'll be sure to yell extra loud when P/I skate for all of their fans here. Is anyone else going to be there??
     
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    So....where do P&I go from here? Devastating result for sure. It was practically a tie for 3rd with O&W. I'm disappointed SC is not sending them to 4ccs. In a way I'm not surprised they had a mistake, they hadn't competed that FD since mid or late Sept. Thats too long between events. I think they are nervous competitors and need to get out more competing throughout the season to get more experience and also to help them get an ISU ranking for GPs.

    Their SD was beautifully skated (and undermarked) and their FD was WAY more difficult and detailed than G&P's. They are also much stronger skater/ice dancers than O&W. Much better packaged and turned out. Very frustrating. I hope they don't quit.
     
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    ITA. But I think the current scoring system is part of the problem. The nuances that are so difficult and take so many years to master in ice dance aren't being rewarded. P/I's SD was fantastic and I was disappointed to see them behind G/P at that point already.

    They do seem error-prone, but then again W/P also were at one time, and they seem to have improved a lot in that area. I really hope P/I persist. I suppose that SC wanted to send G/P to 4CC since W/P's chances of being at Worlds seem slim, so best to get G/P as much prep as possible in hopes of winning 3 spots for the Olys. That wouldn't leave room for an O/W vs P/I skateoff.
     
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    I was so sad for them,I hoped they would get silver.But the good thing is,that they have a coaching team around them,that can deal with these situations.I remember that after the 2006/2007 season Faiella/Scali considered to stop,because they were slowly dumped by the international judges,but Camerlengo convinced them to continue.After that season their careers kicked-off with two medals at ECH and one World`s medal.
    And look what they did for W/P. After they didn`t qualify for the Olympics,a lot of people thought,they could never become one of the best teams in the world,but they did it.

    Paul/Islam have too much talent to stop.I think,they just need a breakthrough moment like the 2010/2011 FD at Worlds was for Weaver/Poje.
     
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    Agreed! I was so heartbroken for them. It was such a shock for those of us sitting in the stands, especially since they were skating such a lovely program. Their SD was spectacular in person, it really was. There was an energy in the building while they skated, they managed to get the whole audience into the palm of their hands. I hope that they felt that at least. Trust me, they made fans out of a lot of people that day. I hope they keep fighting. You get the sense watching them that they are capable of greatness. All the makings of it are right there, they just need them to come together. I agree, all they need is a breakthrough, and for luck to work in their favor for once.

    I do think of Weaver/Poje when I look at these two. W/P were in pretty much the exact same position a few years ago. They missed worlds multiple times, and it looked like they were fizzling out. Everyone had written them off. Boy, did they ever prove everyone wrong. I hope that P/I can take inspiration from them, and keep fighting.
     
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    They are such a young team (age wise) and so talented. I would be very surprised if they gave up at this point. It was a silly mistake and one that I hope doesn't happen again. I enjoy them and am hoping to see them next year if not before. You never know what will happen, they may luck in one of these days.
     
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    A lovely message from P/I on Facebook. Nice to see that they've still got a fighting spirit. :kickass:

    https://www.facebook.com/AlexandraPaulMitchellIslam

    Just wanted to get a couple of thoughts that have been rolling around in my mind out there. Thinking ahead to next season, P/I should be able to get some senior B events once again, which should help their international ranking. I also think they have a good shot at getting the host spot to Skate Canada. The other teams should be getting assignments based on worlds and 4CC, so P/I would be the logical choice for the spot. If all of that works out, along with their usual trip to Thornhill and likely the Lake Placid Championships, they should have a pretty good start heading into Nationals. Their chances at making the Olympics will depend on how many spots Canada actually has, but they'll be right in the mix. Even if they don't make it, they'll go to 4CC at least (the Olympic team almost never goes). All in all, I think they could have a really great year. I hope they come out all guns blazing next season. Their time in Detroit has already paid off in spades (the improvement was obvious at Nationals), so if they continue to build on that, they could have another breakthrough. Just my two cents. :D

    On a slightly unrelated note, I'm still a little confused as to how GP assignments are awarded. If someone could shed some light on that, I'd appreciate it.
     
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    Since P/I are not slotted for Worlds -- 1-12 are guaranteed two GP spots -- nor do they have a Season's Best (SB) score from a GP or championship -- only 1-24 on the SB list are guaranteed a spot and 25-75 are eligible to be picked -- and since they are #33 on the Worlds Standings list -- only 1-24 are guaranteed a spot -- the bottom line for them is that unless by some miracle they end up attending either 4C's or Worlds or are sent to World Team Trophy and end up with a Top 24 SB, the only way they'll be eligible for a GP spot is if they are chose for one of three Skate Canada spots for which they were passed up this year.

    If they were entered in and won one of the early season Senior B's listed in the GP announcement -- this year the US International in SLC, Nebelhorn, Nepala, Finlandia, Cup of Nice -- they'd be put at the bottom of the substitutes list. This year, the top of the list was barely grazed, there were so few substitutions.
     
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    To clarify, that was what I was referring to. I realize they won't be able to make the top 24 internationally, but I was thinking they would have a good shot at being selected for the host spot. They were passed up this year in favor of Gilles/Poirier, who will now be going to worlds and will be able to get assignments without taking up a host spot. I'm sure SC realized how close P/I would have been to G/P if that fall hadn't happened, so one would think they would want to help them develop.