Alexandra Paul & Mitchell Islam

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  1. Emdee

    Emdee Well-Known Member

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    I was one of them who saw them as clones in the past but Isee they are now coming into their own.
  2. skatingfan04

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    That's a really important point, IMO, and it's what has always attracted me to P/I most of all. If you watch the version of their FD with British Eurosport commentary, the commentators spent quite a bit of time talking about how P/I have the ability to make difficult transitions look effortless and generate speed and power from nowhere. One of the commentators said what they were capable of was almost an illusion, and made the very valid point that they almost make it look too easy. I think they have the same 'problem' as Virtue and Moir in that respect. I think they make the difficult look so easy that a lot of people get the impression that their programs are easier than what others are doing. Thankfully, in this instance, the judges saw it and rewarded them handily and appropriately for it. I'm hoping that's a trend that continues into Nationals...
  3. Marta24

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    I am just glad that the judges are finally seeing their qualities and judging it appropriately. I was happy with the judging in this competition,since P/I got the highest PCS (and highest Skating Skills mark in both segments),which IMO they deserved.
    I also love their effortless and soft skating,but I also fear that this will be a problem one day, as it is with V/M sometimes.
  4. lavenderblue

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    P/I didn't appear in the gala streamed on Eurosport, so I'm not sure that poster didn't mix up another team with them.
  5. Pratfall

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    That's what I was afraid of..
  6. lavenderblue

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    I hope we hear something -- medalists are generally obligated to skate unless there's a serious excuse.
  7. blueglass

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    I'd love to see her in something like that. I saw Vanessa Crone skate that program and was astonished at how small she was in person - she had such presence on the ice that she always seemed larger on tv.
  8. Pratfall

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    Nooooo...please. I hated those costumes. :D..To each their own , I guess.

    But I , too prefer Alex in more vibrant colours.. or even just some touches of deeper colour. For example ,I think it would make a world of difference to that pink dress if the flowers and neckline frill were done in one or two just slightly deeper or different shades of pink. That would keep it from washing out quite so much.
  9. skatingfan04

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    Did anyone happen to catch the Skate Canada practice live streams today? P/I looked awesome! So fast, smooth and confident. Their FD run-through was gorgeous. I can't wait to see their SD tomorrow!
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  11. clarie

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    Their practise looked great...I didn't notice any glaring mistakes. Here's hoping they do well.
  12. tonkatwofeather

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    Just caught their SD on TSN . . . Thought it was bloody marvellous!

    God I love this team!
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    IA. Gorgeous lines & SS - the very difficult made to look easy.
  14. blueglass

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    I thought it was lovely too, but I thought they got buried in the marks. I thought they should have been a few placements higher. The judging scared me for V/M.
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    They had a couple of technical errors (L1 on the second Finnstep pattern and L2 on the step sequence), GOE was mostly +1 and 0, except for the final lift, and they got the lowest PCS scores in the competition.
  17. skatingfan04

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    Guys...that FD...:swoon::swoon:

    I think P/I can consider this a job well done!
  18. Marta24

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    Their FD was awesome. :cheer2:
    Such a pity that they didn't perform their SD like this,otherwise they could have been 3rd. They had the 3rd best technical score in the FD, so Krylova/Camerlengo seem to work for them. They just have to improve their consistency.
  19. clarie

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    Exquisite.......I loved it, and it was so nice to see them move up in the standings. They, like V/M, are so smooth and beautiful to watch. Wonderful matching lines and the flow across the ice :). I'm happy for them to see some progress. I hope they are the 3rd team to go to Sochi. (Pulease Skate Gods!!!!)
  20. Golightly

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    Posting for the first time here (I think?) I want to say that I was very impressed with Paul and Islam today. That program is gorgeous. Was that a career's best score for them? I honestly believe that Paul and Islam have the best blades on that field after V-M. They just need consistency and attack. If they can get those two elements working? I think Canada's place as a leading force in ice dance is secure. I hope they make it, I think that Olympic experience will make them grow even more. So, good vibes to them, I am a fan :)
  21. skatingfan04

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    Here we are...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLpuW-WiED0

    Did anyone get the chance to look at the protocols? Their technical levels were ridiculously good!:D I think this was definitely the breakthrough they needed (this and their success at Nebelhorn). I also think that this is going to be a huge confidence boost for them, which is so important. Especially since they had two straight skates without major mistakes. I think that if they can get their confidence back, it will help relax them and bring out more of their character in the programs (which really is the only thing they need to work on for the FD IMO).:rofl:

    Welcome Golightly!

    To answer your question, this was their career best FD score and overall score. Their career best SD score was around 60, which they got at Nebelhorn a few weeks ago.
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    Protocols
    DiSt3; base of 6.50, GOE 1.00
    STw4; base of 6.00, GOE .67
    CuLi4; base of 4.00, GOE .67
    CiSt3; base of 6.50, GOE 1.00
    SlLi4; base of 4.00, GOE 1.00
    Sp4; base of 5.00, GOE .42
    RoLi4; base of 4.00, GOE .92
    RoLi4; base of 4.00, GOE .50
    ChLi1; base of 0.20, GOE .38
    TOTAL Base Value was 37.70
    TOTAL GOE was 7.63
    TOTAL TES was 45.33

    PCS were
    SS - 7.33
    LF/M - 7.04
    PER - 7.25
    CH - 7.33
    IN - 7.21
    TOTAL: 43.27

    Think they achieved pretty good levels overall and getting level 4 on 2 of their final 3 elements (both rotational lifts) bodes well for them. Here's to hoping they stay healthy and UPRIGHT when they skate.
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    I know you don't mean this, but to clarify the final ChoreoLift is automatically a level one no matter what. They basically got level fours on everything except their footwork, and getting level three on both bodes well for them definitely.
  24. lauravvv

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    Congratulations to Alexandra and Mitchell and their fans - that was one beautiful skate of an FD for sure. And a good score to boot. I think their components score could be higher if not for the fact that they don't have an international name yet. Hopefully they will go to Olympics and that will come with time.
  25. jlai

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    I now see that this team doesn't have another gp event (yet). Shame, I'd love to know how they stack up against Orford/Williams and Gilles/Poirier.
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    Man I hope they make it to the Olympics. I love this team and I love their programs this season. Congrats to them & may they finally have good fortune rain down on them.
  27. Subway

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    Great comeback for this team in the free. While I could see the issues in the short dance, I was a little startled at the score and their placement relative to the field. I'm glad they were rewarded for what they did in the free dance, particularly that the judges responded to what appeared as much stronger footing for both of them compared to the short.

    Their programs this season are sophisticated and technically demanding and just need to be grounded in consistent basics. That's not unusual for a team that has a great deal of talent to where some aspects of their skating, athleticism, partnership develop or pre-exist on a more advanced level than others at first. This team are strong dancers and capable of intricate work on the ice and they just need to keep their feet secure and do the drills that make that happen. I'd rather see real skaters like this, occasional issues getting into the ice as there may be, than skaters who try to work around the blade work altogether.
  28. Pratfall

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    :)That FD was so satisfying... It's just a shame they don't have another international outing before Canadians..I hope they can nail down that third spot.
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    I hope so too. That would be a classy team, presuming everybody
    stays healthy, knock wood: Virtue Moir, Weaver Poje, Paul Islam. I'm hoping (and, I guess, expecting) Paul Islam to stay in for the next quad. It's a shame they only have the one GP this season. They seem to be a team that just needs to get out there to strengthen their results on the international scene, and that isn't helped if they get caught in a Catch-22 sort of assignment protocol that limits their opportunities.
  30. DORISPULASKI

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    A new thread title will be needed soon!
  31. Pratfall

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    In their little TV interview , what did they say their motto was for this year? was it "No Matter What " ?
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    No. It's an international and ISU best score for them, but they had a free dance score of 92.43 at Thornhill in 2012.

    Nevertheless, this was a great accomplishment for them. I think it's what they needed to convince the Canadian judges that they are serious contendors for the third spot.

    I really like the confidence that they displayed here in the free dance.
  33. Jammers

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    It seems like this team always makes mistakes that takes them out of the running. At Nebelhorn they had a lead and let it slip away and finished 3rd and at SC they were 7th after the SD. They are to good to be finishing behind a team like R/T but they have to stop making those silly mistakes. It cost them last year when they finished 4th and couldn't go to Worlds.
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  34. geoskate

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    They're training with a team that used to do that too (Weaver/Poje), so I have hope that they will learn mental toughness from their training mates.
  35. frisette70

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    That would be a great title for the new thread !!!
  36. zilam98

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    wow this thread finally gets a 2.0 after two years! ;)
  37. clarie

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    I like it "No Matter What" :)
  38. geoskate

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    We could use a title from one of the pieces in either their short dance or their free dance (Isu bio with listing of pieces):

    - From their short dance, 'Crazy for you'
    - From their free dance 'Dance for Me'
    - or the one I like the best, from their free dance, 'Going Somewhere'
  39. lavenderblue

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    Oh, I like that last suggestion.
  40. Emdee

    Emdee Well-Known Member

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    Why do I find that you slam every Canadian skater?
    I think they had a great free and early season nerves. I think skating with weaver and poje will help their training and polish them . I see a bright future......