Alexandra Paul & Mitchell Islam

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  1. pani

    pani Well-Known Member

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    They could made this before GP competitions - in Finlandia, Obersdorf ;)
  2. Pratfall

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    pani..You cheer me up ...;)

    doris... I'm hoping they'll get out there early and often. And I completely agree about the Canadian summer competitions .
    I'd love it if they , C/S and O/W all were at lake placid..:D..But do I seem to remember that not much video makes it way out of there ?...maybe I'm wrong.
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  3. DORISPULASKI

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    It varies. At least one year you could get streaming video from lpidc
    Another year you could buy a Dvd of it

    Or you could just go...
  4. Pratfall

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    :D:D Oh , doris, I hope you get to go. It would be out of the question for me...but I could look forward to your perspective, if you went.
  5. flowerpower

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    Yes, there was some criticism of the dance judging at Nationals last year - at that particular competition, it seemed that V/M were judged somewhat harshly (although the harsh calls from the tech panel probably caused them to work extremely hard on their levels and likely helped them get those levels at 4CC and Worlds), W/P seemed reasonably treated as I recall, G/P had skyhigh marks, R/H and P/I had it rough. But I don't think it was AFU'd - the only real shocker was G/P's results, IMO. This isn't the right thread to go into that! (Although if Dean brings it with the choreo again this season, and they nail their GP performances, I think the international judges will love them - we'll see soon enough.)

    Personally, I love the line, posture and unison that P/I show, but they were probably unfortunate to be "low man on the totem pole" in a very deep Canadian ice dance field, not having qualified for any guaranteed GP's. I'm still wondering whether there was a way under the new rules to get Gilles/Poirier two GP's, R/H and O/W each their guaranteed spot, and still leave an SC spot for P/I. Maybe with the GP slot limitations, that wasn't possible, because surely SC would have done so if possible. (It's hard to imagine any reason for not doing so, unless it simply couldn't be negotiated in view of those other constraints.) Hope they get Nebelhorn or Finlandia.
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  6. Pratfall

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    :rolleyes::mad:

    doris' assessment is right on the money , IMO.

    Splitting the competition was bad for the whole competition since all the skaters were not seen in the same time and place. That's not one competition , it's two. ( G/P's early outlandishly high marks in the SD ensured that they would be in the last group , or second competition )

    You're right , flowerpower ,this isn't the proper thread for a full discussion of that abominable competition ...but anyone who takes a look at the stats ( now and in the future) , would get a very false impression of the quality shown by G/P relative to all the other skaters. ( Therefore , AFUd )

    Because this is P/I's thread ( although they were not the only couple consequently cast in a bad light ) I'm sticking to the detrimental effect on them ..

    In spite of their considerable quality , P/I are denied any chance at a host pick , because SC wanted 2 slots for G/P .. the supposed justification being the results Paul achieved with Vanessa , and the aforementioned egregious overmarking. This doesn't convince me they deserved 2 slots .

    However, P/I have to contend with the hand they were dealt ( poor as it is ) and I think the move to DSC is an excellent choice on their part in trying to improve their situation . They'll just have to hone their skills and build international cred to such a level that they simply cannot be denied .
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  7. skatingfan04

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    This is totally random, but I was just watching a movie called Breakaway (it's a Canadian film from 2011 about hockey, and it had Russell Peters the Canadian comedian in it), and I think P/I were body doubles in it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakaway_(2011_film)

    There's a section in the movie where they have a dream sequence that takes place on the ice, and the two main characters dance together. The pair does ice dance moves, including a spin and a straight line lift, both of which were right out of P/I's Casablanca FD. The film was shot in Toronto, so it wouldn't be surprising if they used local skaters. It's that really pretty one that they used in this year's SD as well, there he flings her around his neck and then they lean away from each other. That one's pretty distinctive to them. Also, the dream sequence featured four other girls, who were, as far as I could tell, Tugba Karademir (a former Turkish national champ who competed in Vancouver 2010), Carolyn MacCuish (a Canadian pairs and ice dance skater), Rachel Kirkland (another Canadian pairs skater, former partner of Eric Radford), and Siobhan Karam (who was a nationally ranked ice dander with Joshua McGrath for many years), all of whom train or trained at Mariposa. Unfortunately, the credits don't list the names of any of the skaters used in the movie, so I'm not sure if any of these skaters were actually in it or if I'm just seeing things lol. I was just wondering if anyone else had seen the film and had the same impression.
  8. lavenderblue

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    Yep, it's them. When I saw the film, I believe I did see them and the other skaters credited at the end (albeit late in the credits, and in a long list of all dancers) -- though I may have also been forcing my eyes to see things; I did watch on a computer screen. Mitch was also promoting the film quite a bit via social media some months ago. ;)
  9. skatingfan04

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    Thanks for the confirmation. :D I was so excited when I realized it was them, and then my friend pointed out to me how scary it was that I could identify skates by one move. I'm glad I can post here where my obsession is understood lol.:rofl:
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    Thanks, skatingfan04. It is so much fun trying to figure out which pieces they will use. I have been doing that ever since pani told us they are using this soundtrack. I'm very excited for this FD as well:)

    That one stood out to me as well:)
  14. clarie

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    I hope they skate to the "sweeping" bits, perhaps with some playfulness of the Jelly Roll Morton thrown in to break it up........Think?
  15. Pratfall

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    There's no doubt there's a lot to work with in this score .. I wonder if Chouinard the Magician will be cutting their music ?.. ( I think I have the right guy ). If anyone could work "the Crave " in seamlessly it would probably be him...I'm guessing the finale would be that cut of the main theme with the little Gershwin-y bit at the end ?

    Do we know who's doing their choreography , yet ?
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    Yup, that's one one. Hugo Chouinard from Quebec is a real genious when it comes to arranging music for skaters. I don't think this is a hard and fast rule, but I believe most skaters working with Davis Wilson and Lori Nichol (basically hlf the world) tend to get their music cut by him. I hope it's him who does P/I's music. Their FD's have always been beautifully cut in the past, but since there are so many songs in this score this one might be more complicated, depending on how many they use.
  17. skatingfan04

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    http://skatecanada.ca/Profile/tabid/3998/language/en-US/Default.aspx?strregid=2743661&strcategory=dance&strbiocategory=Senior%20Dance&strlanguage=E

    :D More good news, it seems. P/I's SC profile has been updated, and states that their SD will be choreographed by Kelly Jhonson and their FD by Pasquale and Anjelika!!! I was hoping Carmelengo would be the one to create the FD for them, since the music is gorgeous and his work for W/P and the others the past few years has been sublime. Also, their traning location is now listed as Mariposa/DSC, which seems to suggest that their summer in Detroit may have turned to a more permanent arrangement. Just thought I would share!
  18. Bournekraatzfan

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    Thanks, skatingfan04! I am so excited about this! I really enjoy their work and wonder what they will come up with for Alex and Mitch. I am glad they are still working with Kelly Johnson, as I thought she and David Wilson did a beautiful job on their FD last year. I hope they do a classical waltz/polka for their SD next year.
  19. Pratfall

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    :D Oh joy , oh bliss ! Well , I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the more permanent arrangement implication is is real. YAY!
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    Yay ! ..Since they mention the FD is jazzy.. that gives me hope for "the Crave", with all it's fabulous nuances !

    And I still hold out hope for a more permanent arrangement.

    ( I absolutely would love to see a tango from them in the future..as far as female ice dancers go , both Alex and Tessa really get it ..of course for tango men, I think Scott reigns supreme right now ..;).. but Mitch is coming along nicely. )
  22. skatingfan04

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    Lake Placid AND Thornhill??? :D I think I've died and gone to heaven!

    icedance.com always has incredible coverage of the LPIDC (photos, reports, behind the scenes), so we should get a good idea of how P/I's season will go from there.

    Also, I'll be attending Thornhill once again this year, so I'll do my best to give a full report (no pictures or videos, though...the hockey nets they keep up in the arena combined with my lack of photographic ability mean that I usually leave the camera at home).

    I'm hoping that they get assigned to Nebelhorn and Finlandia as well. I think those two combined with LPIDC will give them some much needed international exposure, especially since they won't be on the GP circuit.

    It's great to hear that they're healthy and that their training is going well. Also a good sign that both their programs are done. And thumbs up to the jazzy FD. I think the style will suit them really well.

    4 weeks till the LPIDC!!!
  23. clarie

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    They are sounding very positive. I'm really looking forward to seeing their new routines this year, and am praying they stay healthy....that's the key!
  24. Subway

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    Very nice piece on the two of them. They're such a lovely team I'm looking forward to what they do this coming season. The coaching move was maybe overdue but would have been wasted last year with the injuries anyway. I'd like to see them take that step forward. I've really been thinking about what happens after Sochi when, presumably, Virtue & Moir and Davis & White retire - which country's second tier is going to step up? Is Russia going to take over, will the Shibutanis versus Weaver & Poje be the story? Fun if this team can make noise.
  25. skatingfan04

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    This is completely off topic, but I was leafing through old albums on ice-dance.com and I was struck by how many pretty pics there were of P/I. Just a few of my favourites...

    2009/2010

    Minto Summer Skate

    http://photography.ice-dance.com/2009-2010-season/2009minto/junior/CD/6636-PI-MH.jpg.php
    http://photography.ice-dance.com/2009-2010-season/2009minto/junior/od/Image-519.jpg.php
    http://photography.ice-dance.com/2009-2010-season/2009minto/junior/FD/8758-PI-MH.jpg.php

    Canadian Challenge

    http://photography.ice-dance.com/20...lenges/Junior/CD-Argentine/1855-PI-MH.jpg.php
    http://photography.ice-dance.com/2009-2010-season/2010SCChallenges/Junior/FD/7752-PI-MH.jpg.php
    http://photography.ice-dance.com/2009-2010-season/2010SCChallenges/Awards/10991-JMC-MH.jpg.php

    Nationals

    http://photography.ice-dance.com/20...r/Practice/Monday/Hoyt-2010-0111-0717.jpg.php
    http://photography.ice-dance.com/20...onships/Junior/FD/Hoyt-2010-0114-2612.jpg.php
    http://photography.ice-dance.com/20...NationalChampionships/Gala/2287-PI-MH.jpg.php
    http://photography.ice-dance.com/20...NationalChampionships/Gala/2314-PI-MH.jpg.php

    Jr. Worlds

    http://photography.ice-dance.com/20...Practice/Monday/PM/10JWPrMpm080-PI-RR.JPG.php
    http://photography.ice-dance.com/2009-2010-season/2010JuniorWorlds/Dance/CD/10JWCD0145-PI-DE.jpg.php
    http://photography.ice-dance.com/20...niorWorlds/Dance/OD/10JWOD50758-PI-RR.jpg.php
    http://photography.ice-dance.com/20...niorWorlds/Dance/FD/10JWFD40319-PI-RR.jpg.php
    http://photography.ice-dance.com/20...niorWorlds/Dance/FD/10JWFD40366-PI-RR.jpg.php
    http://photography.ice-dance.com/2009-2010-season/2010JuniorWorlds/Ex/10JWEX11195-PI-RR.jpg.php
  26. maggylyn

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    Those are some really nice pictures! :)
  27. DORISPULASKI

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    Sylvia & Tammi posted that Paul & Islam will be at Lake Placid IDC!
  28. skatingfan04

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    Skate Canada Central Ontario has posted an interm list of competitors for Thornhill. P/I's names aren't on it yet, but I believe registration is still in progress so there's no reason to believe they won't be there. The list does, however, show that Gilles/Poirier will also be there competing the SD and FD, and that Ralph/Hill will do the FD. So basically, this is going to be a mini nationals. I'm so excited! I think it's fantastic that these teams will be going up against each other so early in the season. I'll be attending both events, so I'll do my best to give everyone a play by play. Also, skatebuzz.com, the Skate Canada sister site, usually streams the entire event live for free, so those of you not attending should be able to see the whole thing anyways. :D
  29. pani

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    Cant wait to see Thornhill on skatebuzz :swoon:
  30. Pratfall

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    Um..I don't think skatebuzz has covered Thornhill in the past..There was a fan video that made it out the year V/M did Mahler.. but there's the hockey puck nets to contend with..and many programs are in pretty rough shape that early.. I thought we didn't get anything until the various Summer Skates , last year...am I wrong ?:slinkaway

    I'd be thrilled to be wrong , but I'm not getting my hopes up. Pictures would be nice , if I'm right...;)
  31. Emdee

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    I watched most of Thornhill last yer on Skate Buzz.
  32. pani

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    When it will be? I a worry i will be at vacation in that time
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    :)Emdee..woo-hoo , then !

    pani.. Aug 16-19 for Thornhill.
  34. pani

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    Thanks! Or, no, i cant see it :( (if all be OK).
  35. Pratfall

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    pani.. yes , but if skatebuzz does it, it ought to stay archived on ustream..
    so if you're on vacation it should be waiting for you when you get back.

    :D
  36. pani

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    Yes. Hope Skatebuzz will show Thornhill.
  37. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Paul/Islam have registered for SD & FD at Thornhill - link to the competition thread in Kiss and Cry: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showthread.php?t=84193

    ETA: I checked the Thornhill 2011 thread in the Archives and the 2011 Quebec Summer Skate videos were archived on ustream via Skatebuzz last year but NOT Thornhill's videos. We'll have to wait to see if the "big 3" summer competitions (Quebec, Thornhill, BC/YT SummerSkate) will be live streamed again this year.

    And here's the 2012 Lake Placid IDC (July 25-28) thread: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showthread.php?t=84178
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  38. flowerpower

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    Thornhill will be a very interesting competition for dance fans, if all the registrants show up. P/I, R/H and G/P are all registered for the senior SD, and both P/I and G/P for the senior FD. :)
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    Yes, indeed! Also Aronow/Brubaker have registered so we'll get a look at this new US team:)
  40. Pratfall

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    :D short dance tomorrow .. free dance Friday. I'm dying to hear about their programs.