Adam Rippon's Quad Lutz

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Jenna, May 10, 2011.

  1. Allen

    Allen Glad to be back!

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    Was anyone else surprised when the thread popped up? I can't really say it occurred to me that Adam would be practicing a quad lutz. I love it though. I hope he can pull it off in competition. It looked great on the video.
     
  2. Skittl1321

    Skittl1321 Well-Known Member

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    There was an article on ice network that mentioned it, so it wasn't a surprise to me.

    What was a surprise was his reason, he said something along the lines of "couldn't get the quad toe". Cause lutzes are so much easier! Then again, for him they must be (he also said he would NOT be putting his arms above his head- now THAT would be something)
     
  3. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    I find it a bit unfair that Min Zhang is credited as the first skater to land 3 quads in an LP, when Tim Goebel did it the same night (SLC free skate). The only reason Zhang got to do it first was because he skated an earlier group, and he skated in an earlier group because he did worse than Goebel in the SP. So it wasn't even random like the order of the GP events; Goebel was, in a way, losing the opportunity to be the first because he did well in the SP. Anyway, I'm sure it was worth it to him, since he was able to win bronze.

    As far as Plushenko, he first tried the quad lutz 10 years ago, before Adam was on anyone's radar, and then gave it up, so I doubt that particular record is all that important to him, because we all know that when something is that important to him, he physically wills himself to do it. First 4-3-3 was really important to him. Landing quads in Vancouver was important to him. Trying different quads in competition had never been his thing. He has barely ever done the 4sal (just in Russian comps, I think).
     
  4. Sparks

    Sparks Well-Known Member

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    What about Mike Weiss' quad Lutz? :p
     
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  5. Sylvia

    Sylvia Bring on the JGP & Sr B comps!

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    From the Icenetwork article (dated April 8, 2011) you cited, here's what Rippon said:
     
  6. mag

    mag Well-Known Member

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    Interesting about the lutz and the toe. My dd skates with a kid who was landing clean double lutzes extremely consistently long before he could land a single double toe. Obviously not the same as quads, but lutzes must be easier for some. It would be cool if Adam could get the quad lutz competition ready ... variety always makes things more interesting.
     
  7. Sedge

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    I believe that Evgeny Pliuta was attempting the 4 Lutz as early as 1999/2000/2001. He had as much success as anyone with it..since no one has landed it cleanly. He may have been the first...can't quite remember.
     
  8. RFOS

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    Do you mean that Min Zhang was the first to land 3 quads in an Olympic LP? Because Tim Goebel landed 3 quads in the LP at 1999 Skate America and was the first. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_HSQAm2HjU (Watching that program again made me really appreciate how much the rest of his skating had improved by SLC).

    I recall Min Zhang was the first to land a quad in the SP at the first 4CC in 1999, and got kind of lucky there, because I think at least someone else landed it at 4CC but skated later? It was sort of surprising that no one had landed it prior to that competition since it had been allowed since the beginning of the season.
     
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  9. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    Yes, you are right! Thanks for the clarification.