? about stars into camel

Discussion in 'Moves In The Field' started by Jozet, Feb 11, 2011.

  1. Jozet

    Jozet Active Member

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    Are stars into a camel (not flying camel, just front camel) considered difficult entry?

    Or could they be a GOE increase?

    Thanks for any info!
     
  2. Aussie Willy

    Aussie Willy Well-Known Member

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    I think they would be a good transition into a camel. But would only help increase the GOE if done well.
     
  3. Doubletoe

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    Stars into a flying spin will give you a level feature for a difficult flying entry. However, there is no such feature awarded for a non-flying spin, so you won't get a level for stars into a regular camel. It will just help your transitions score and spin GOE if executed well.
     
  4. Jozet

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    Ah, yes! Okay, that makes sense.

    Thank you for both replies!
     
  5. steve skater

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    It's not the stars entry that counts as the difficult entry; it's the butterfly/arabian after the stars that would count. (And one can do stars without the butterfly/arabian into a flying camel.)
     
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  6. Jozet

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    Thanks, steve skater. So I have this right, a flying camel is not a difficult entry in and of itself, nor are stars into a flying camel. Stars into a regular camel are also not difficult entry because it would take some sort of difficulty on a fly to increase the level.

    However, stars into butterfly/arabian entry on flying camel - it's the butterfly/arabian that makes it a difficult entry. Stars (done well) *might* increase GOE or add to transition.

    Yes?
     
  7. steve skater

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    Yes.
    Also, here are the bullets for marking positive GOEs for different elements:
    http://tinyurl.com/4z3m72x
    Although nothing technically meets a bullet for an entry such as stars (maybe points 6 and 8?), the stars would probably help you get better speed and centering. (At least that's why I try to do them into my camel! ;))
     
  8. Jozet

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    "the stars would probably help you get better speed and centering"

    I don't skate (very well), but I've noticed with my daughter that when she does stars into a regular flying camel it 1) really helps her to get the fly right (otherwise she sometimes does a "flying salchow" ) and yes, 2) much better speed and centering.

    GOE would be nice. Her program is a bit rock and roll, so I do think the stars work well as a hot shot move, lol.

    Again, thanks for the explanation. I'm learning this to try to understand what my kiddo is doing on the ice, but also, I want to be a smarter viewer altogether. :)