Evgeni Plushenko Daisuke Takahashi Braien Jobert Jeffrey Buttle Evan Lysacek Stephane Lambiel Patrick Chan Takahiko Kozuka Jeremy Abbott Florent Amodio Nobunari Oda Michal Brezina Johnny Weir Javier Fernandez As you see, this is not a poll. I am asking this mostly out of curiosity. I am very far from expert when it comes to figure skating technique. At this point, I can tell a really good skater skating skills wise from a not so good, or an excellent skater from merely good. And if I pay really close attention to skater's feet while watching them skate, I can tell something about edges. But I rarely do that. Which means that at times I am still unsure about which out of two overall quite equal skaters is/was better. So, I decided to ask people who know better than me. I hope this will be somewhat helpful also to others who are still learning about skating. As now there's this 'Survivors' game going on, I chose the 7 most current skaters from Men's poll (I didn't include Yagudin, because he skated under a different system, but feel free to mention him) + 7 other current skaters about whom I am curious. I didn't include youngsters like Hanya and Gachinski, though, because I wanted it to be mostly skaters who have skated together at one point or another (with some exceptions ). What I am basically asking is to rate all these men skating skills wise. How do they compare to each other? The 7 first (from the poll) are the most important (to me). The rest you can either include in your assesment/rating, or leave them out if it's too much for you - or include just some of them. You can place them in a list from 1. to 7. (or 1. to 14. ), or evaluate them in 10 points system if it's too unrealistic. I don't care, just as long as they're rated somehow. But, please, include an explanation. What are each skater's strong points, what are his weak points (skating skills wise), and so on? Just no statements like "this or that gets/got such and such marks for his SS, so he is better/worse than this or that" (the marks I can see for myself), or "he falls more often than others while just skating, so his skating skills are worse than this or that's" (the falls I can also see myself). Also - those who watch exhibition performances from time to time, feel free to use also show skating as a basis for your evaluation, not just competition programs. I understand that most people here don't take that seriously, but it's not like skating skills are not needed in exhibition performances, even if they're not as complex as competition programs. Thsi kind of assesment can be especially valid if you have seen the particular skater live at some show, but haven't seen him live at a competition (or have seen him more in shows, than in competitions). You can point to particular performances/competitions if you want, but don't evaluate based just on this one peformance/competition. I really want this to be a rating of each skater's overall skating skills. Ah, the last one - I'd be really grateful if you wouldn't turn this thread into some skater's bashing fest. Please, just a reasonable exchange of opinions - as much as it's possible here on 'FSU' . I won't do this myself for the reasons I already mentioned, but I hope that at least some people will take part in this. I might do a similar thread about female skaters if this goes well.