3 women abducted as teens a decade ago found alive in Cleveland; 3 brothers arrested

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  1. Sylvia

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    Cleveland Plain Dealer article/coverage: http://www.cleveland.com/metro/inde...ry_dejes.html#incart_river#incart_maj-story-1
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    This is an incredible story...reminds me of Jaycee Dugard's story out in California. As you recall Jaycee was abducted at age twelve and held for eighteen years; she also had children in captivity (two daughters). Apparently this little girl is six years old and the daughter of Amanda Berry. The details of their lives in captivity will no doubt be chilling.
  3. MINAM

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    Just read the news. Unbelievable.
  4. skatefan

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    Amazing good news story this morning!

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/women-missing-over-decade-found-alive-020738825.html#iMIMexi


    Reporting that one of the brothers owned the house where the girls had been held captive Ariel Castro and he is believed to have been a school bus driver in the area.
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  5. Garden Kitty

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    Cheers to the neighbor who helped them escape and called the police :respec:
  6. Jenny

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    This is wonderful news, but there is one thing that concerns me is the false hope it might give to countless other people whose children or other loved ones remain missing. An outcome like this is very rare.
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    I just watched a video interview of the neighbor. He's a hoot.
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    I think the one missing persons case that still sends chills through me after all these years is Johnny Gosch
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    I am so happy for the family!
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    Wow...what an incredible story. Thankfully there was a neighbor that was able to help them escape from that nightmare...It's devestating that these women had to spend over a decade held captive by these monsters. I'm not sure I want to read the details of what they went through as I'm sure it's horrfying. The silver lining is that they're safe now.
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    Fascinating. This would make one heck of a movie. I wonder if the mom really did talk to her son, if she made it up or if it was a cruel prank.
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    So happy that these women were found alive and another case of you never really know anyone. But how come there is so little information about the third victim Michele Knight?
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    My guess it that it's probably because there wasn't a whole lot of publicity about her disappearance, in contrast to the other two who went missing. Michelle Knight's family apparently thought that she had gone away of her own accord (because of what police told them) and while they did try to track her down, it wasn't the sort of massive ongoing search as for the other two (who were younger (both minors) when they were taken -- 16 or 17 and 14, vs. 19 or 20 for Michelle who was legally an adult).
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    I guess I can understand that because I must admit when this story first broke, the first thing that crossed my mind was; " Oh no not another Brenda Heist story". But still tragic all the same that her story did not get as much attention. At least she is home now and safe.
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    The police went to the house, but no one was apparently home (at least no one came to the door). Since the complaint against Castro (leaving behind a child from his bus) didn't go further, they never went back. Those poor women. I think that this was just a couple months before the third girl was taken, so if they had found the two already there, the third one wouldn't have even been taken. And judging by the time line, Amanda Berry wouldn't have gotten pregnant, much less have to give birth to her daughter (fathered by one of the brothers, I would assume). What a sad missed opportunity -- just like in the Jaycee Dugard case. :(
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    When I first heard this yesterday, Jaycee Dugard immediately came to my mind. What a horrible thing to happen to these young ladies! It's hard to imagine what kind of fear must have been instilled in them, that they were unable to escape for 10 years! After hearing these stories, I feel that people need to look out for each other- their neighbors, any suspicious behavior, etc. It's hard to hide anything for 10 years and there jerks were able to do that to their innocent victims.
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    Saw a report that said they found a name of another women written on the basement wall with "rest in peace" scribbled near it. So there may be another abducted woman involved. Also apparently the women had at least five pregnancies during their captivity, with most ending in miscarriage.

    The daughter of one of the captors apparently is serving time in prison for trying to murder her daughter.
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    Where did you see this report. If true :yikes:.

    I'd read that earlier today -- it said she had tried to slash her baby's throat. :(
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    Me too, I always wonder if he's still alive and what happened to him.
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    I have been wondering about her too. They have not even shown a picture of her, and they don't mention her or her family.
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    He is. Hopefully he'll get a reward etc for finding. You can tell he's got a heart of gold.
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    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...times-sources-article-1.1337398#ixzz2SesTHHXv
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    Sadly, none of those details is a surprise. You knew they were being kept as sexual playthings and punch bags. And it's even sadder to think that there are probably many women/girls (and probably young boys/men too, but a small mercy is that they can't get pregnant, have miscarriages, and birth babies in these situations)who are currently being held the same way all over the world. And as more of these situations are unearthed, more crazy people get ideas to do the exact same thing or worse.

    I hope they are allowed privacy to collect themselves, get help and get on with their lives... and provide damn good evidence to put these guys away for life. Can you imagine being the mom of these 3 men? I have no idea how I could face up to having not just 1, but 3, sons like this...
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    Apparently the mom was repeatedly beaten by the father of the three suspects, suffering broken ribs, nose, etc. I assume she divorced the father.
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    Not surprising. These three @ssholes had to learn extreme disrespect for women somewhere. Too bad mom didn't leave a bit earlier. (Like before she had the three boys.)

    Any woman staying in an abusive relationship for the sake of her kids is teaching her kids a sh*tty lesson.
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    "There was nothing exciting about him...uh, until today!"..."Bro, I knew something was wrong when a pretty little white girl ran into a black guy's arms!"

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    Well she could be a Kardashian :p


    He's pretty quick-witted. That quote is definitely one for the ages :)
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    Am I the only one kind of disturbed by the attitude of the 911 operator? Maybe its because I am only hearing short clips on the news, but from what I have heard she was very dismissive of Amanda. And then basically hung up on her and didn't stay on the phone with her until the cops got there?! Amanda's telling her "I was kidnapped for 10 years and I'm free and I'm here now" and the operator was just like "okay talk to the police when they get there" and was ready to hang up on her until Amanda said "hello" again, like she thought the operator hung up?! And then she tells her that a car is coming "when one is free". Are you kidding me??

    Maybe its just the clips I am hearing, but I thought the 911 operator's behavior in taking the call was awful. If there's a clip of the entire 911 call, I'd be interested in hearing in the whole call, because what I am hearing on the news is very disturbing. Like with that 911 operator who took the call about those two little boys whose father killed them and burned the house down when that social worker was frantic trying to get some help. Listening to Amanda pleading for help and the 911 operator's dismissive behavior makes me angry every time I hear that clip.

    I am glad they were rescued and are safe and the call did get the help required, but its just very disturbing listening to it.
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    I was expecting this reply! :lol:

    Bailey, I too was disturbed by the 911 operator. Perhaps she never heard of the missing girl, or didn't take the call all that seriously because the story is so unbelievable.
  34. bek

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    Its definetly terrible, but who knows what kind of calls the 911 operator gets every day.
  35. Buzz

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    The 911 operator could have stayed on the line with her, and in my experience they are usually good at their jobs but never friendly. She probably thought it was a prank, and did not take it too seriously. But not taking calls seriously have cost both police officers and victims of crime their lives.
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    I listened to the recordings and thought the 911 operator that Amanda spoke with was efficient and did her job, but nothing more. That's not a bad thing-the cops were there within minutes, which w more important (IMO) than stroking the caller. I agree she should have remained on the line until the officers arrived, but perhaps that's not the policy in Cleveland. (On star always offers to stay on the line, ime.)

    Amanda was very distracted on the phone call, which may have made the operator think it was a prank. I think that her daughter was interrupting the call with talking or whining. Absolutely understandable on the child's part, don't get me wrong. It just didn't help the situation.

    i have to say that the good neighbor's recorded 911 call was filled with cursing and drama. He sounded like a drunk, but that operator took him seriously. However, the neighbors patience was severely lacking.

    The powers that be in the city are investigating the 911 call center and the operator. I think there's room for improvement in their scripting. The operator didn't ask who else was with Amanda, if she was in a safe place, if anyone was injured or in danger. It's possible that others in the neighborhood were also calling in, so perhaps all the operator needed to do was dispatch the police since others were also providing information. See what comes of the investigation.
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    To me, it's easy to focus on the 911 operators. Who still did their jobs. It wasn't like they were unprofessional. The police, on the other hand, have a lot more questions to answer for.
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    Repeat Post.
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    I have only had to call 911 once in my life, and it was not a great experience. The paramedics did come quickly, but the operator was condescending and snippy. My neighbour had taken a very bad fall - I honestly didn't know if he was alive - and the endless questions that I couldn't answer or were completely irrelevant only served to increase my anxiety. She took forever to say that someone was actually on the way, or I would have hung up on her.

    (My neighbour was fine by the way, thank goodness.)