2020 Olympic Games Bid Thread

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by walei, Sep 8, 2011.

  1. walei

    walei Well-Known Member

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    Now that the 2018 Winter Olympics Host has been awarded to PyeongChang, the IOC has kicked off the 2020 bid process. By the Sept 1st deadline, here are you application cities:

    Baku, Azerbaijan
    Doha, Qatar
    Istanbul, Turkey
    Madrid, Spain
    Rome, Italy
    Tokyo, Japan

    The IOC will short list the application cities next year down into the candidate phase, where a evaluation committee will visit each city as the IOC voting members are forbidden to do so. The final election will be on September 7, 2013 in Buenos Aires.

    Personally, I think it is between Rome and Istanbul.
     
  2. Domshabfan

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    I hope it is not Rome and Madrid, considering the economic conditions in those countries. I am not sure of both Baku and Doha, they surely have oil money and can buy athletes from around the world, but i hope it is not them as well. So i would love it to be either Tokyo or lesser extent Istanbul.
     
  3. Buzz

    Buzz Well-Known Member

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    Good heavens what a list... I will be routing for Turkey or Japan.
     
  4. Fergus

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  5. FiveRinger

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    How many times has Istanbul tried to get an Olympics? I'd like to see them with the bid.
     
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  6. Vagabond

    Vagabond Well-Known Member

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    Even though the Doha bid contemplates staging the games later than is customary, in late September and early October, it could be a disaster waiting to happen. The average daytime high temperature is in the upper 90's, and many of the events will have to be held out of doors and during day light hours (triathlon, bicycle road racing, rowing, canoeing, kayaking, open-water swimming, etc.). Last October, an American competing in an open-water swimming race in nearby Fujairah died during the race, probably because of heat-related problems.

    An Olympics in Istanbul, with events on both sides of the Bosphorus (including some races that crossed the waterway) could be :swoon:.
     
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  7. BigB08822

    BigB08822 Well-Known Member

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    I think Doha would have one of the most amazing Olympics ever but the heat! It just can't be safely done without moving back too far in the year. Istanbul seems nice to me.
     
  8. Buzz

    Buzz Well-Known Member

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    The heat and lack of enough cities did not stop Qatar from getting the WC.
     
  9. Vagabond

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    But the World Cup matches are going to be in enclosed, climate-controlled arenas. You can't stage some events (such as those mentioned in my previous post) indoors and many, possibly most, of these (yachting and the equestrian three-day event, for example) can't be staged at night.
     
  10. walei

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    There was a huge controversy when FIFA awarded WC to Qatar and now there is a corruption skandle under investigation. IOC openly criticized FIFA over it so I don't see them voting for Doha.
     
  11. kylet3

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    I certainly hope Doha ISN'T awarded the games. Qatar has absolutely no relations with Israel, and you can be thrown in jail for upwards of five years because you are gay... I think it would send a very BAD message. Personallly I think the games will go to either Tokyo, Madrid or Rome.
     
  12. OlieRow

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    Color me shocked that the guy with the dial-up computer got Azerbaijan's bid in on time! ;)
     
  13. Southpaw

    Southpaw Saint Smugpawski

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    I think he wrote it on Myrna Loy's shoulder instead. Quicker that way.
     
  14. Jenna

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    I really want to go to an Olympic Games, but August 2012 is going to be a really bad time for me (don't ask me how I know already :lol:) and Sochi and South Korea are probably out of the picture, financially. 2020 is probably my best bet.

    I'm hoping for Madrid or Rome. I might splurge and go to Tokyo, though.
     
  15. gingercrush

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    I hope Tokyo gets it. Hopefully the earthquakes there doesn't freak everyone out. Italy and Spain surely can't afford to host them. Turkey wouldn't be too bad and is definately my second choice. But I want Tokyo to get it.
     
  16. walei

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    Dust off this thread to update that today in Quebec City the IOC has announced Tokyo, Madrid and Istanbul are the official candidate cities for the 2020 Games. Baku and Doha did not make the short list.
     
  17. BigB08822

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    Tokyo is crowded enough, where would all of the athletes, coaches, tourists, etc all stay!? It could be a logistics nightmare. I like Istanbul or Madrid but I worry about the economy in Spain. I know it could be totally different in 2020 but it could also be totally worse. Istanbul for the win.
     
  18. Theatregirl1122

    Theatregirl1122 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I'm on team Istanbul as well.
     
  19. walei

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    Tokyo is apparently the front runner now as judged by the IOC for technical merits. Tokyo's bid is to reuse and upgrade a lot of their existing venues from their previous hosting back in '64. Their biggest obstacle is PyeongChang 2018 because the IOC may not want to have two Games in Asia back to back.

    Istanbul can pull a Rio 2016, but with their previous announcement for Turkey to bid for Euro2020 and could win that by default (as the only bid), the IOC may not want to give the Games to Istanbul.

    Madrid has their economy as a big obstacle they really need to convince the IOC of their financial security in 2020.

    Personally I want Madrid to win haha just to knock out all possible European cities for 2024 to lessen the competition for Toronto. If Tokyo wins, 2024 is pretty much Europe's to lose unless South Africa steps in.
     
  20. vesperholly

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    Team Istanbul for me. I like diversifying the locations. Spain had a OG in 1992 and Japan in 1998.
     
  21. allezfred

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    Have you ever been to Tokyo? :confused:
     
  22. kylet3

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    I'm Team Tokyo or Team Madrid, I'd be fine with either of those winning. I am absolutely thrilled that Doha didn't make the list.

    I think a Tokyo games would be absolutely amazing. Especially after the earthquake last year, it would really be something positive to uplift a country that's had it's fair share of bad stuff happen to them recently. I thought they had easily the best technical bid the last time around, and with some tweaking here and there, they will be the ones to beat.

    Madrid I feel would put on a great games as well, very solid technically based around already existing venues if not a bit bland, but again, in a country with a really terrible economy and extreme unemployment, the IOC might be weary sending it there.

    Istanbul concerns me a bit, Rogge has stated that they can't have their cake and eat it to IE he doesn't want Istanbul taking on EURO 2020 and the Olympics in the same year, so they might have to make a choice. Logistics would be an absolute nightmare. I'm also concerned about the traditional secularism being replaced by religious extreism and them using the games as a platform for that.

    Tokyo or Madrid FTW!
     
  23. BigB08822

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    No. Am I mistaken that Tokyo is a very crowded place? Or is my opinion not allowed because I have never been to any of those locations? :rolleyes:
     
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    I'm on Team Istanbul or Madrid, although not really quite enthusiastic about this relatively poor short list of 3 candidate cities. Far cry from 2012. Very disappointing that Paris, South Africa, and the U.S. didn't bid, all three of which I would prefer over this current short list. Huge mistake for the U.S. not to bid since they just signed the revenue agreement and because of the short list.
     
  25. walei

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    USOC wasn't going to bid until they reach an agreement with the IOC on the revenue sharing so 2020 was out of the question for the US. Now it's possible for the US to bid for 2022 or 2024, and for 2022 there are already some movement in the US like Reno-Tahoe (love the idea of Tahoe but not sure about Reno...), Denver, and SLC again. If US bid for 2022 I think they will be a shoe in!
     
  26. Vagabond

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    I think the South Africans realized that it was extremely unlikely that the IOC would stage two successive Summer Olympics in the Southern Hemisphere (and three times out of six). I also think that the IOC might be reluctant to stage two in a row in the Americas.

    If South Africa ever does host the Olympics, I hope it will be after vuvuzelas go out of fashion. :scream:
     
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  27. Domshabfan

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    Really, you don't think Munich bidding for the games has a chance??? on top of that Germany has hosted a winter since 1936. Nothings is a shoe in!, remember how confident US delegation was for 2016 bid, and we now how that turned out. The event is voted on by members from around the world and they may not think the same way as US delegation does.
     
  28. walei

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    Chicago 2016 failed miserably because of the revenue dispute between USOC and IOC. Let's face it, USA is IOC's biggest market, NBC just shelled out 2Billions+ USD for 2018/2020 broadcasting rights. Now that supposedly the relationship between USOC and IOC is all good now, I'm willing to bet as long as USA puts up a decent bid they will be the front runner especially in 2022. The IOC can't afford to upset USA for too long :eek:
     
  29. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    Where are the 2016 Olympics?
     
  30. BaileyCatts

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    Rio de Janeiro, Brazil