2013 Nebelhorn Trophy Announcement is online (Olympic qualifying & Senior B comp.)

Discussion in 'Kiss And Cry 2014-2015' started by Sylvia, May 7, 2013.

  1. Sylvia

    Sylvia Club comp. season is here!

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    Since it's still too early for the 2013-14 Kiss and Cry forum, I hope it's okay to create a thread for the Nebelhorn Trophy Announcement (Sept. 25-28, 2013 in Oberstdorf, Germany) in GSD. This is the "ISU designated Senior International Figure Skating Qualifying Competition to fill the remaining open entries for the XXII Olympic Winter Games in Sochi, Russia for Men, Ladies, Pairs and Ice Dance" as well as a regular Senior B international: 2013 Nebelhorn Trophy Announcement
     
  2. Sylvia

    Sylvia Club comp. season is here!

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    Re-posting :):
     
  3. N_Halifax

    N_Halifax Well-Known Member

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    As usual, any Olympic qualifier is bound to be one heated competition. It would be very advantageous for countries seeking to qualify to pick and choose their entries very strategically. Any early guesses on which country will send who?
     
  4. kirkbiggestfan

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    In pairs, it will be very interesting to see if the new Japanese team is ready for that big event. I am not even talking about the Turkish pair...that would be unbelievable to see.
    The Brits, Bulgarian, Polish, Ukrainian, BLR pairs should be there. It won't be a very competitive field for the 4 spots, since the traditional pairs countries already qualified spots.
     
  5. danafan

    danafan Canadian ladies ├╝ber

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    North Korea always shows up for this.
     
  6. N_Halifax

    N_Halifax Well-Known Member

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    Do they really? That's entertaining in itself. It's not like they bother with the World Championships.
     
  7. Marco

    Marco Well-Known Member

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    For ladies, countries who sent representatives to 2013 Worlds but had yet to qualify a spot are:

    Australia
    Spain
    Austria
    Brazil
    Denmark
    Belgium
    Georgia
    Switzerland
    Finland
    Norway
    Lithuania
    Slovenia
    Latvia

    North Korea will likely send a representative to this event to try and qualify for Sochi. (Who else?)

    At least 6 spots will be given out at this event (more if some countries with qualified berths decide not to use all or any of their spots), with the frontrunners likely to be Finland, Georgia, Australia and Spain.
     
  8. Marco

    Marco Well-Known Member

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    For men, countries who sent representatives to 2013 Worlds but had yet to qualify a spot are:

    Ukraine
    Denmark
    Korea
    Italy
    Romania
    Hong Kong
    Israel
    Monaco
    Philippines
    Belarus

    North Korea will likely send a representative to this event to try and qualify for Sochi. (Who else?)

    At least 6 spots will be given out at this event (more if some countries with qualified berths decide not to use all or any of their spots), with the frontrunners likely to be Ukraine, South Korea, North Korea, Italy and the Phillipines (if they send the junior kid?).
     
  9. Finnice

    Finnice Well-Known Member

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    Valtter Virtanen spoke about trying to get a spot for Finland here, too.
     
  10. Stephanie

    Stephanie Well-Known Member

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    For ladies, Fleur Maxwell from Luxembourg and Sila Saygi from Turkey will probably go (just my guessing)
     
  11. care bear

    care bear Active Member

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    ioana Well-Known Member

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    Oooo, thanks for posting this. Will try to shift my vacation plans around to see if I can make it here for a few days.
     
  13. Sylvia

    Sylvia Club comp. season is here!

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  14. michelle K

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    Five Korean men had a skate-off for Nebelhorn over the weekend. Jin-Seo Kim is going. Scored 199.11 (66.97+132.79).
     
  15. seabm7

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    Luiz Manella from Brazil, he scored 66.28 + 118.06 = 184.34 at Liberty.
     
  16. Seerek

    Seerek Well-Known Member

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    Interestingly, there are several cases above where the skater(s) may qualify a spot at Nebelhorn in September, but it does not guarantee their spot at the Olympics.
     
  17. vexlak

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    Not at worlds but they willl try:
    Czech republic
    Israel
     
  18. Sedge

    Sedge Active Member

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    I think Belgium and Switzerland also have a good chance if Ira Vannut is healthy and if Ovcharova can compete for Switzerland
     
  19. love_skate2011

    love_skate2011 Well-Known Member

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    so this season wot be any top skates but will be used as qualifying ?
     
  20. sandra_persch

    sandra_persch Well-Known Member

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    Lets hope there will be some good ones there!

    From the German Team Wende / Wende (they got married and Hausch has taken his name), Vartmann / van Cleave and Proelss / Blommaert have indicated that they plan to compete there
     
  21. sternfunken

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    Didn't Tomas Verner say he will compete at Nebelhorn Trophy?
     
  22. allezfred

    allezfred Just say Yes! Staff Member

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    Ireland will also be there!
     
  23. oubik

    oubik Well-Known Member

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    No, he wanted at first but decided to postpone his start to the season and Petr Coufal is going (as Czech Republic had only one men accepted).
     
  24. vexlak

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    Looking at the announcement the participation of the countries that already have Olympic spot (ie Czech) will be limited. Under normal participation only 24 participants will be allowed to compete with priority of those without the OG spot. Only if there are more then 24 of those (no OG spot) then they will be more then 24 participants. I am understanding this correctly then if there are 24 competitors without OG spot, the countries with the spot will not be allowed to participate? How will they handle if there are only 5-6 spots left for example in case that there is 18-20 countries with out OG spot? First come first serve? Do I get this right?

    As per the announcement:
    Priority in participation will be given to Members who wish to qualify for the remaining open entries for the XXII. Olympic Winter Games 2014 in Sochi (Rule 400, paragraph A. 4. and paragraph B. 4.).

    Each ISU Member has the right to nominate one Competitor for each single event in the NEBELHORN TROPHY 2013. Member Federations, placed 1 to 10 at the NEBELHORN TROPHY 2012 in the discipline concerned, may enter two Competitors if there are sufficient places for participation (see point b) for exceptions).

    a) In principle, there will be a total of 24 Competitors in each discipline.
    b) ISU Members who need to qualify in a discipline (have not yet earned the right to participate in that discipline at Olympic Winter Games 2014) will be allowed to enter only one Competitor/Couple into the respective discipline.
    c) All ISU Members who need to qualify in a discipline and wish to enter their one Competitor/Couple in the respective discipline will be accepted, even if the total number of entries for the respective discipline exceeds 24.
     
  25. MattysMom2005

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    Who will the USA send?
    . Max is competing in Detroit and Tokyo.
    . Ricky in Bejing and Moscow.
    . Ross in Canada and Paris.
    . Jeremy in Canada and Tokyo.
    . Josh in Canada and Moscow.
    Only Jason and Adam have a single GP event. Possibly one/both of them? Thoughts anyone?
     
  26. Sylvia

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    ^^^ IMO, Jason Brown would be a logical choice for Nebelhorn because he will have fulfilled the competition readiness requirements of having shown both his programs in at least one summer competition within the required time frame; Rippon has not, AFAIK.

    Lindsay Davis/Rockne Brubaker will make their international debut as a team at Nebelhorn, according to IceNetwork's final Skate Detroit article.

    Due to the Olympic qualifying competition taking priority this year, it's likely the USA will only be allowed to send one entry per discipline to Nebelhorn.
     
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  27. RUKen

    RUKen Guest

    There was a similar announcement prior to the 2009 NT (which was also an OG qualifier), but then they allowed 35 ladies and 33 men to compete (along with 18 pairs and 17 ice dance teams). The limit of one skater per federation was enforced. (Edited to clarify: the federations that had already earned on OG berth were permitted to have one entry per discipline in the NT.)
     
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  28. maureenfarone

    maureenfarone Well-Known Member

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    I was wondering if Alissa Czisny was going to participate in Nebelhorn to get the required TES. Recently I read that she wants to start her season later in the fall. What other Senior B's could she do where she could earn the required TES? The only one I could think of is Ice Challenge in Graz (which is scheduled during Midwest Sectionals).
     
  29. euterpe

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    That's the likely one for Alissa, as it would take her out of Sectionals. Nebelhorn is just too soon.
     
  30. oubik

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    Yes, you are right.

    I do not know if these tables which was forwarded to me would be of help to understand the process, but it seems, for men: currently 9 entries from already qualified members are accepted. 8 ladies are accepted, 4 pairs (1 each from RUS, USA, CAN and FRA) and 6 Ice Dance teams are accepted.


    MEN Alternate Entries (Priority Order)

    Member discipline position in competition

    1. JPN Men 1. confirmed
    2. RUS Men 1. confirmed
    3. USA Men 1. confirmed
    4. CZE Men 1. confirmed
    5. CAN Men 1. confirmed
    6. SWE Men 1. confirmed
    7. ISR Men 1. confirmed
    8. FIN Men 1. confirmed
    9. BRA Men 1. confirmed
    10. BEL Men 1.
    FRA Men 1.
    HGK Men 1.
    SVK Men 1.
    AUT Men 1.
    ESP Men 1.
    11. USA Men 2.
    12. CZE Men 2.
    13. CAN Men 2.

    LADIES Alternate Entries (Priority Order)

    Member discipline position in competition

    1. CAN Ladies 1. confirmed
    2. RUS Ladies 1. confirmed
    3. JPN Ladies 1. confirmed
    4. EST Ladies 1. confirmed
    5. SWE Ladies 1. confirmed
    6. FIN Ladies 1. confirmed
    7. BRA Ladies 1. confirmed
    8. USA Ladies 1. confirmed
    9. SVK Ladies 1.
    10. GBR Ladies 1.
    11. HGK Ladies 1.
    FRA Ladies 1.
    NOR Ladies 1.
    UKR Ladies 1.
    12. UKR Ladies 2.

    PAIRS Alternate Entries (Priority Order)

    Member discipline position in competition


    1. RUS Pairs 1. confirmed
    2. USA Pairs 1. confirmed
    3. FRA Pairs 1. confirmed
    4. CAN Pairs 1. confirmed
    5. USA Pairs 2.
    6. FRA Pairs 2.
    7. CAN Pairs 2.


    ICE DANCE Alternate Entries (Priority Order)

    Member discipline position in competition


    1. USA Dance 1. confirmed
    2. RUS Dance 1. confirmed
    3. CAN Dance 1. confirmed
    4. UKR Dance 1. confirmed
    5. GBR Dance 1. confirmed
    6. ISR Dance 1. confirmed
    7. FIN Dance 1.
    FRA Dance 1.
    8. USA Dance 2.
    9. CAN Dance 2.
    10. UKR Dance 2.
    11. GBR Dance 2.
    12. FRA Dance 2.