2013 ISU World Team Trophy, April 11-14, in Tokyo

Discussion in 'Kiss And Cry 2014-2015' started by Sylvia, Feb 12, 2013.

  1. Skittl1321

    Skittl1321 Well-Known Member

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    It seems like a very similar statement could be made for pairs and ice dance. Have you seen the Olympic medal records? Not a lot of diversity there. Though perhaps the rest of the teams are a little closer.


    I think it will be hard for smaller countries without the synchro heritage to field teams- it is hard enough for them to find two people to put together pairs/dance teams, much less a whole gaggle.

    Still, I'd much rather see synchro in the Olympics than the team event. I like WTT because it is a fluff event that seems fun for the skaters, and it is far enough away from Worlds that I'm eager to see the programs again. But the team event is going to be the exact same programs skaters will do in a day or two. To me, that adds no excitement at all. I tolerate it a bit more in gymnastics because their routines are so much shorter (though skaters worried about giving their all and then messing up their individual medal chance might want to chat with McKayla Moroney...). I just don't have the attention span to sit through the same long programs twice in a matter of a few days.
     
  2. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    I think that will be true for couples like Chock/Bates and Carron/Jones who should still be in shape from Worlds, but I don't know about teams like Monko/Khaliavin, who didn't compete in anything major since Russian nationals in December. I don't know how hard they continued to train their programs (being alternates) but it seems to me they might have moved on to their next year's material by now and if they have to dust off this year's programs it won't be all that pretty. It's not like they would have been expecting to go to WTT, considering they were 4th and there's only 1 spot.

    I would rather see synchro too (I know it's not mutually exclusive, but I doubt we'd get that and a team event).

    Actually, I'd rather see the CDs come back. ;)

    Gymnastics is a little different because the events are short and they can have multiple things going on at once. Go right from this person's vault to that one's bars. There's more action.

    I really really think it was a mistake putting it at the beginning. Having the team event at the end would give the skaters a chance to seek redemption if they didn't win an individual medal.

    Also, NBC is right, the ladies is the marquee event of the Olympics (Lord knows why...). A lot of people do not watch until the ladies. If skating wins any new fans during the ladies event, they would want to tune in for the team portion, where they can be introduced to pairs and dance especially. The way it's set up, the team event won't get much attention nor bring in many new fans, I think.
     
  3. Coco

    Coco Well-Known Member

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    Brilliant observation. They could have the team event take the place of the gala in the broadcast schedule. They should still have the gala, of course, but broadcasting it during the Games seems a little rude to athletes still competing, plus they break it up which doesn't work for skating fans either. I've always wondered why they don't air the gala the weekend after the closing ceremonies.
     
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  4. mtnskater

    mtnskater Well-Known Member

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    Why don't they hold it during Worlds......is that the plan going forward after the Olympics?
     
  5. kwanfan1818

    kwanfan1818 I <3 Kozuka

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    Men's curling was a lot like women's hockey and synchro for a long time, but the field has tightened considerably, and Canada wasn't even a favorite going into the current Men's World Championships. They are currently seeded fourth, and have to make it out of the Page playoff game [against Denmark] and the semi-final [against Scotland] to have a shot at gold or silver. Norway, which was favored to vie for the championship, didn't make it to the playoffs. I can't imagine women's hockey making those kind of strides within two Olympic cycles, even if many of the top players from Scandinavia play in US colleges and universities.
     
  6. tut88

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    Back at WTT 2013
    Besides the ISU channel
    any tv is airing it ???
     
  7. Ziggy

    Ziggy Well-Known Member

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    It's not going to happen. Even with 6-8 teams, it's a huge amount of athletes. Furthermore, as has been pointed out, there is only a handful of countries which are really competitive.

    Not outside of Korea and Japan.
     
  8. bmcg

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    I know it's not going to happen...
     
  9. DORISPULASKI

    DORISPULASKI Watching submarine races

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    Well, I'd argue that Russia is not very far behind. Team Paradise was very close to a medal this year, and last yar won the SP. In both years, I believe they would have medalled, if they had not had problems with the FS.

    US in third: 202.53, Russia in fifth: 197.31

    However, after Russia, the next team is Germany with 153.65 in tenth, and that is a long way down. However, I liked the German team, particularly in the SP.

    Another thing tht synchro has to recommend it, despite the disparity in skills, the only continent not represented at Worlds was South America.

    1 Team Finland 1 FIN 208.77 4 1
    2 Team Canada 1 CAN 208.25 1 2
    3 Team United States of America 1 USA 202.53 2 4
    4 Team Finland 2 FIN 201.00 5 3
    5 Team Russia 1 RUS 197.31 3 6
    6 Team Canada 2 CAN 191.42 7 5
    7 Team Sweden 1 SWE 185.82 6 7
    8 Team United States of America 2 USA 172.01 10 8
    9 Team Sweden 2 SWE 167.48 8 9
    10 Team Germany GER 153.65 9 12
    11 Team Russia 2 RUS 152.88 12 10
    12 Team Italy ITA 150.16 11 11
    13 Team France FRA 124.92 13 14
    14 Team Japan JPN 120.17 14 13
    15 Team Czech Republic CZE 112.04 15 15
    16 Team Australia AUS 90.15 16 16
    17 Team Croatia CRO 79.37 17 18
    18 Team Hungary HUN 76.78 19 17
    19 Team Mexico MEX 73.42 18 19
    20 Team South Africa RSA 61.62 20 20

    I'd like both WTT and synchro in the Olympics
     
  10. kwanfan1818

    kwanfan1818 I <3 Kozuka

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    I'd love to see Synchro in the Olympics, but although most continents are represented, there would be only two, NA and Europe, were each country limited to one with a field of 6 or 8 teams. Japan would make a field of 10, which would add in Asia.

    The WTT model isn't being used exactly in the Olympics. Differences are:

    *The participants must be from the individual disciplines, unless no one qualified.
    *There are TES minimums, different for the appointed skaters than ones who will skate individual disciplines.
    *Ten team get to skate the SP/SD, and then half will be eliminated; WTT starts and ends with six.
    *Only one from each discipline skates each phase and earns points, vs. two in singles for WTT.
    *A team can have one, two, or no different skaters or teams skate the SP/FS, if they've qualified more than one skater/team in the individual disciplines. This isn't limited to singles, and there could be up to ten medalists per team, if the team chooses one pair and one dance team for the SP/SD and another for the FS/FD.
     
  11. dardar1126

    dardar1126 Well-Known Member

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    From Twitter:

    https://twitter.com/USFigureSkating
     
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  12. Akira Andrea

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    "Infomatin of the absence" from the homepage of JSF in April 8th JST
    < Men >
    The absence: Nan SONG ( China ) &#8251;Because of the injury
    The substitution: Yi WANG ( China )
    The absence: Florent AMODIO ( France )&#8251; Because of the injury
    The substitution: Romain PONSART ( France )
    < Dance >
    The absence: Nathalie PECHALAT / Fabian BOURZAT ( France )
    The substitution: Pernelle CARRON / Lloyd JONES ( France )
    The absence: Ekaterina BOBROVA/Dmitriy SOLOVIEV ( Russia ) &#8251;Because of the injury
    The substitution: Ksenia MONKO/Kirill KHALYAVIN( Russia)

    http://skatingjapan.or.jp/whatsnew/detail.php?id=1864
     
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  13. Sylvia

    Sylvia Fretting that Worlds is over...

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  14. dardar1126

    dardar1126 Well-Known Member

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    #TeamUSA on Twitter:

    Jeremy Abbott&#8207; @jeremyabbottpcf 21h https://twitter.com/jeremyabbottpcf
    See you in twelve hours Tokyo! #Japan #Aishitemasu #WTT13 #TeamUSA http://instagram.com/p/X0JJ3SG8CB/

    Ashley Wagner&#8207; @AshWagner2010 3h https://twitter.com/AshWagner2010
    On my way to Japan for #WTT13 !!! \(^o^)/ USA, USA, USA!

    Gracie Gold &#8207;@GraceEGold 5 Apr https://twitter.com/GraceEGold
    This is the last Friday I will ever have to train these programs! I am so excited for World Team Trophy :D #Japan #Tokyo #TeamUSA #GoForGold

    Evan Bates &#8207;@Evan_Bates 3h https://twitter.com/Evan_Bates
    Made it safely to Tokyo. Now just concerned with finding a live stream for tonight's basketball game. A little help anyone?

    Madison Chock - https://twitter.com/chockolate02

    Marissa Castelli - https://twitter.com/MarissaCastelli

    Simon Shnapir&#8207; @SimonShnapir 20h https://twitter.com/SimonShnapir
    Packing for the last trip of the season! #GOUSA #WTT13

    Max Aaron - https://twitter.com/MaxTAaron - NOTE: Max seldom tweets; does sometimes retweet.
     
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  15. Sylvia

    Sylvia Fretting that Worlds is over...

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    Ashley Wagner and Meagan Duhamel @mhjd_85 were jousting on Twitter this morning! ;)

    Rest of Team Canada on Twitter:
    Eric Radford @Rad85E tweeted about 2 hours ago: "At the airport! Off to Japan for World Team Trophy!!!"
    Kaetlyn Osmond @kaetlyn_23 tweeted about 1 hour ago: "Stuck in a traffic jam. Hopefully still gonna catch my flight..."
    Patrick Chan @Pchiddy
    @WeaverPoje
    (Kevin Reynolds and Gabrielle Daleman are not on Twitter, AFAIK. ETA - see fan's post below: @gabby_daleman )

    Looks like the Twitter hash tag of choice is #WTT13
     
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    Sylvia Fretting that Worlds is over...

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  18. Dilng

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    Omg not me syncro is as interesting as curling!:scream:
     
  19. dardar1126

    dardar1126 Well-Known Member

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    Just now on Twitter...Max actually TWEETED! :fan:

     
  20. Skittl1321

    Skittl1321 Well-Known Member

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    Your welcome to your own opinion, but have you watched it recently? Because synchro is a lot different than it used to be.
    These teams are made up of GOOD skaters. It isn't a bunch of marching anymore.


    dardar- shocked Max tweeted. Though I do know he reads them. He's favorited a few of my tweets.
     
  21. dardar1126

    dardar1126 Well-Known Member

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    Likewise...on all counts. His tweets are rare & special! :D
     
  22. skateboy

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    My own opinion is that synchro is much more fun to do than to watch (I used to do it and had a blast). As a viewer, it doesn't interest me at all.
     
  23. ostile17

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    https://twitter.com/Tenis_Den

    Just curious, how is he participating in the WTT?
     
  24. Sylvia

    Sylvia Fretting that Worlds is over...

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    Denis Ten must be skating in the Gala Exhibition.

    From the WTT Announcement:
    ETA Ashley Wagner's tweet:
    "We made it to Tokyo!! #roomielove #WTT13" http://pic.twitter.com/zwWzKwP4T1
     
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  25. NMURA

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  26. Akira Andrea

    Akira Andrea Well-Known Member

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    I think that he maybe has been invited to the exhibition as the guest skater by ISU because he was the second place following to Patrick Chan in Men single in 2013 Worlds.

    In the event in 2009, the player/couple below were invited by ISU.
    Stephane Lambiel
    Akiko Suzuki
    Sinead Kerr /John Kerr
    Aliona Savchenko / Robin Szolkowy

    In the event in 2012, the player/couple below were invited by ISU.
    Miki Ando
    Aliona Savchenko / Robin Szolkowy
     
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  27. barbk

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    Great for Dennis -- I'm sure the money will come in very handy. (I am surprised his federation even has money for his training at this level -- or is this being funded by his family?) It would be cool to see him as Olympic champion.
     
  28. dardar1126

    dardar1126 Well-Known Member

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    Tweets from Team USA @ WTT2013:

    Max hasn't tweeted again, but here is a picture that @waccosky did of him:

     
  29. Sylvia

    Sylvia Fretting that Worlds is over...

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    Denis Ten has publicly thanked the Samruk-Kazyna Fund in his home country for their support this season - see: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/sho...or-Denis-Ten&p=3788377&viewfull=1#post3788377

    Link is: http://pic.twitter.com/g3JbHyuV8W

    Check out ALL the impressive fan artwork here! (for skaters from Team USA, RUS, JPN, FRA, CHN, CAN): https://twitter.com/waccosky/media/grid
     
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  30. Ziggy

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    Why are you surprised? Kazakhstan has got crap loads of money from oil. It has a capital which has received tons of development and re-development in recent years which now looks like some kind of futuristic dystopia.
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Central_Downtown_Astana_2.jpg

    It's a dictatorship with very big ambitions (just like Azerbeijan) and my guess is that they would fund athletes that can get them recognised on the international level.