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2013 GP Final is hosted in Japan just before Sochi Olympics

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Akira Andrea, Jan 14, 2011.

  1. Akira Andrea

    Akira Andrea Well-Known Member

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    This is an article in “Sports Nippon” in Japan.
    Translated from Japanese.
    2013 GP Final will be hosted by Japan just before Sochi Olympics.
    January 14th, 2011 JST

    As for 2013 GP Final, it was decided that it is hosted by Japan in December, 2013 in the season of 2014 Sochi Olympics.

    In the board of directors in Japan Skating Federation in January 13th, it was reported that it was approved in International Skating Union. The schedule is in December 5th-8th, 2013 and the place for the event is not yet fixed. The hosting in Japan as for the said event is ever since December, 2009 in Tokyo. The venue of this event in 2011 is undecided. As for 2012, Sochi in Russia is regarded as the most likely prospective venue.

    The article:
    2013 GP Final will be hosted by Japan just before Sochi Olympics.
    http://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2011/01/14/kiji/K20110114000043030.html

    As for GP Final, it also was hosted by Japan just before 2006 Turin Olympics and 2010 Vancouver Olympics.
     
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  2. BigB08822

    BigB08822 Well-Known Member

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    Wouldn't it be easier to just announce when major skating events ARENT being held in Japan? I know that is where the crowds and competing TV rights are but come on, this is getting to be a bit much.
     
  3. a56

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    The cash that the ISU is getting from the JSF must be tremendous, and it seems like Japan is hosting every pre-Olympics GPF (2013, 2009, 2005). I agree with BigBO8822, it's too much. I would strongly prefer to see the combined Senior/Junior Grand Prix Final in the U.S., Canada, and Europe. How about Great Britain and Germany, among the countries who don't host the Senior GP every year?
     
  4. MR-FAN

    MR-FAN Kostner Softie

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    I don't see the problem with Japan hosting major events as many times as they want. Sure, I'd rather Canada (and other countries) host some of these more often, but if Japan is willing to organize such high caliber events so often to such great results, Go ahead! If other countries can't compete with how popular the sport is in Japan right now, too bad.

    And this thing goes in cycles. Soon enough skating-mania will cool down in Japan and some other country with emerging stars will pick it up (Russia anyone? :p )
     
  5. ninadel

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    As someone living in the UK, I would love this!
     
  6. oleada

    oleada Well-Known Member

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    Well, I for one think it's great. I love seeing the full arenas and the support all skater get there.
     
  7. euterpe

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    ITA. I'm not sure the non-Asian skaters will be too thrilled with this, and wouldn't be the least surprised if some of the top skaters withdraw from one or more GP events ensuring they won't be in the final. It's not as if there's a high correlation between GPF champions and Olympic champions.
     
  8. allezfred

    allezfred People call me rude, I wish we all were.... Staff Member

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    2009 GPF Champions: Evan Lysacek, Yu-na Kim, Xue Shen & Hongbo Zhao, Meryl Davis & Charlie White.

    2010 Olympic Champions: Evan Lysacek, Yu-na Kim, Xue Shen & Hongbo Zhao, Tessa Virtue & Scott Moir.

    3/4 seems pretty high to me. :p
     
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  9. euterpe

    euterpe Well-Known Member

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    Include the previous two Olympics/prior GPFs

    2006 Olympics: Plushenko, Arakawa, Totmianina/Marinin, Navka/Kostomarov
    2005 GPF: Lambiel, Asada, Totmianina/Marinin, Navka/Kostomarov

    2002 Olympics: Yagudin, Hughes, Berezhnaya / Sikharulidze, Anissina / Peizerat
    2001 GPF: Yagudin, Slutskaya, Sale / Pelletier, Bourne / Kraatz


    The correlation drops to 50%
     
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  10. oleada

    oleada Well-Known Member

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    Well, S/P are recognized as Olympic champions, so not quite. In any case, aside from skaters who didn't qualify T(Arakawa, Asada) or were injured (Plushenko, DomShabs, Cohen) many Olympic medalists did medal at the GPF: Lambiel, Buttle, Plushenko and Kwan iin 2002, V/M, Slutskaya both times, Anissina/Peizarat, Grushina/Goncharov, and the list goes on.

    It's not a direct correlation (what is? Ice is slippery), but more often than not, the skaters who medal at the GPF go on to medal at the Olympics. And given that the last 2 pre Olympic GPFs have been held in Japan with many top names there, I can't see why 2013 would be different.
     
  11. mia joy

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    OMG, why are the GP Finals ALWAYS in Asia lately?! I mean, yeah, I get it's a money thing, but come on, there are Europeans and North Americans who wouldn't mind having a chance to attend this event once in a while too!

    If it continues this way, even European Championships will be held in Asia soon...
     
  12. julieann

    julieann Well-Known Member

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    I agree 100%, some countries have trouble filling the seats, if Japan can do it, let them have it :D
     
  13. Squibble

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    Magadan! Vladivostok! Khabarovsk! Birobidzhan! :cheer2:
     
  14. allezfred

    allezfred People call me rude, I wish we all were.... Staff Member

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    They'd probably be better attended. :shuffle:
     
  15. Asli

    Asli Well-Known Member

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    And I'm sure the skaters would enjoy the trip. :shuffle:
     
  16. Taso

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    :rofl: I'd totally make a Gulag themed program for the Magadan Euros!
     
  17. senorita

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    shouldnt something be hosted in Sochi before Olys, like with the other venues in the past?
     
  18. Squibble

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    The 2012 Grand Prix Final will be in Sochi.
     
  19. laviemn

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    If you all understand that it's a financial issue, then what are your practical solutions? The money to run this sport has to come from somewhere, and there's no guarantee that skating will boom in another market sufficiently to fill the void if and when it cools down in Japan.

    A smart skater would take any opportunities they had to build a fan-base in Japan right now. As for skipping GP events in the Olympic year, I hope at least none of the ice dancers are stupid enough to do that.
     
  20. ks777

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    It may be because hosting in Japan is most profitable for the ISU? It's always packed crowd there unlike in the US or Europe, so it makes sense to me. Plus I am pretty sure Japanese tv stations(not JSF) are paying more for the tv rights than any other countries.
     
  21. floskate

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    It's totally obvious why so many competitions are hosted in Asia and especially Japan since 2005. The JSF and more importantly the Japanese TV stations are probably right now keeping our sport afloat financially, thanks to the mania for figure skating over there. I for one am very grateful for it, as well as their gorgeous HD broadcasts which so quickly appear on youtube and fsvids. If it weren't for the popularity of FS in Asia, where exactly would the sport be right now??? Scary thought..... :(
     
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  22. professordeb

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    Hmmm ... how sad for me only because it's not likely I could travel that far. I've not done a lot of travelling and never outside my continent. I would have liked to have started with something a bit closer - anywhere in the U.S. or Europe. {{sigh}}
    I will just have to live it through my FSU friends.
     
  23. allezfred

    allezfred People call me rude, I wish we all were.... Staff Member

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    Well, we still don't know where the GPF will be this year. Korea? ;)
     
  24. Squibble

    Squibble New Member

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    :sekret: A frozen pond outside Tashkent.
     
  25. mia joy

    mia joy Well-Known Member

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    yeah, here's a great idea of promoting skating where it's a bit less popular - organize all major events thousands of kilometres away :rolleyes:
     
  26. ponta1

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    I'm certainly not understanding the grumbling by some here. I think Japan is a great place to host this event.
     
  27. RumbleFish

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    IMO, GPFs just before Olympics are all about politics where certain skaters get propped up and some held down, though it doesn't necessarily reflect on Olympic results. Last year, it was Lysacek and Takahashi receiving inflated PCS, as well as Yuna Kim getting lowballed on PCS to same level as Ando. The former worked in Vancouver, the latter did not.

    Having said that, I don't really care about Japan getting to hold GPF just before Sochi. They have the financial hence the political power, and it would be stupid for them to not leverage it. It's the way our capitalism works, and it would be a waste of time complaining about it.
     
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  28. mia joy

    mia joy Well-Known Member

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    well, let me explain it to you. I would really love to attend a GPF someday, but that's not happening as long as those events keep being hosted in Asia. I understand the political/economical side of this issue, but still, it only makes the Japanese fans more spoiled (in a good way - meaning they get a chance to love the sport more and more) while keeps an opportunity to attend a big event away from other fans like me. How are people in Europe supposed to develop their love for the sport if they don't really have too many opportunities to see the world level of it live?
     
  29. Libertango

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    Are other cities even making a bid :shuffle: ?

    The GP final has been hosted:
    7 times in Europe (3 times in Russia, 2 in France, 1 in Italy, 1 in Germany)
    6 times in Asia (3 times in Japan, 2 in China and 1 in Korea)
    3 times in NA (2 in Canada)

    Clearly NA is not too spoiled :lol:

    How about 2011 and 2012? I know France was interested in hosting a GP final but then they got Worlds 2012...
     
  30. ponta1

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    Well, then, maybe you should take up a campaign to go lobby some of the European federations to host a GPF in the future. If a GPF is not being held in Europe, I hardly find that the fault of the JSF.