2013-2014 Short Dance Technical Requirements

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  1. DORISPULASKI

    DORISPULASKI Watching submarine races

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    Girls, Girls, Girls is another favorite.
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    As much as I really enjoyed Grishuk/Platov's OD to that, they need to retire that too. I think I may have liked G/P's version because it had no lyrics, so we could just hear the bombastic beat.
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    ballroom blitz works
  4. VIETgrlTerifa

    VIETgrlTerifa Well-Known Member

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    Can someone do a quickstep to "hooker on crack"?
  5. love skating

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    Has it been that long since the Dancing Fool OD year? Gosh that makes me feel old!

    But I do love the quickstep so I look forward to this SD!
  6. mag

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    They are also part of the Skills test in Canada. I can't remember which level, probably jr or sr silver. I believe they also appear in the gold test.
  7. victoriaheidi

    victoriaheidi New Member

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    Would "Peppy and George" from The Artist work?
  8. jenlyon60

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    Choctaws are also an element on the US Figure Skating Junior Moves in the Field test
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    ISI requires them as part of the Freeskate 5 test.
  10. briancoogaert

    briancoogaert Well-Known Member

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    I love the Quickstep ! And Finnstep is probably really interesting to include in a whole choreo.
  11. Aussie Willy

    Aussie Willy Well-Known Member

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    I think it will work well. It was similar to when they brought the Golden Waltz in as the Pattern part of the SD. I felt that worked well because it is complex and has lots of content. When they did Rhumba the dance is so short I didn't feel it sat well within the SD theme. At least with the Finnstep there will be some meat to it.

    It will be interesting from a judging and technical panel side though, because none of the judges will have done it themselves.
  12. briancoogaert

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    Absolutely, that's why I think finnstep will be interesting. Although I love Quickstep, I'm not sure it will be as good as Finnstep to include. :)
  13. Aussie Willy

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    Well at least I have my DVD of when they did the Finnstep as the CD at worlds that time (can't remember which year - was it 2009?).
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    Paso Doble was Worlds 2009
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    Braulio Well-Known Member

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    Europeans 2009 in Helsinky was the last (and only) time that it was executed as compulsory dance
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    There has been a lot of discussion in the skating world about how the Finnstep will decide who will win Olympics. I posted a comment that Scott made a year ago, with regards to that. With so many places where things can go wrong and it being a very new dance, that barely anyone has performed more than once, it is definitely going to be a tester.

    SD at Olys next year might be as exciting as 06 in Turin, where literally everyone was crumbling. Having said that I hope they choose the key points well, I didnt think the key point choices for the Yankee were that intelligent this year. Also I hope there will be a seminar for the judges on the Finnstep again (although I doubt). I remember a judge saying just before Euros 09, none of us really know what we are doing in this dance. Obviously it was said very tongue n' cheek but the judges and the skaters are not very use it, hopefully the Grand Prix season before will be give everyone involved a bit more clarity.
  18. honey

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    4CC also used the Finnstep that year.
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    Ah that might be where I have copies of it from. I know it had the Australians competing.
  20. Ziggy

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    Thank god for that!

    It's significantly easier to perform the second section if you can precede it with cross-overs or progressives.
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    Tessa's dress from the Finnstep at 4CC may be my favorite ever dress worn by her. They had a bobble or two, to be expected given she was coming off of surgery and how difficult it must have been on her legs to learn this particular dance.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWHgSYl7pvk
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    I found his mullet to be far more newsworthy than her peep show :p
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    That Youtube video has almost 2 million views! :eek:
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    I think we have the answer of how to bring more expectators to Ice Skating :D
  26. Susan M

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    I think just the opposite. IMO almost none of the Golden Waltz short dances worked as dances precisely because the GW pattern was so long. The pattern steps and other elements took up so much of the alloted time that there wasn't any time left for good choreography. All we got were element after element with brief connecting sequences. It did not help that so many teams chose the completely incongruous tango rhythm to go with it. I think this subsequent years' SDs, collectively, are much more successful as dances.

    The GW pattern takes a minute, the rhumba about 30 seconds, and Yankee Polka looks like about 33 -35 seconds. One pattern of Finnstep takes about 40 seconds.
  27. Aussie Willy

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    Got a special treat this morning. Our senior dance team are training with Jimmy Young and I got to stand in on the practise session to have a look at the dance close up with regards to learning it for judging. Really interesting. Some of the steps are incredibly difficult so you can see it is going to be a challenge for the skaters and judges. Also with the key points it is going to quite difficult for the tech panels to be able to pick up those steps because it is so quick.
  28. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    When are the key points usually released by the ISU?

    From this Merriman/O'Brien article that was published before Worlds: http://corporate.olympics.com.au/news/figure-skaters-find-silver-lining
    ETA: Never mind - the key points are included in ISU Communication no. 1782 (March 5, 2013) so it looks like O'Brien was quoted before this came out:
    http://isu.sportcentric.net/db//files/serve.php?id=4351
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  30. MissIzzy

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    Nope; wardrobe-related stops still incur a deduction. :p
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    Olivier Schoenfelder will be demonstrating the Finnstep with Tiffany Zahorski to the ISU in London this coming week.
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    OMG, I hope there are videos. :swoon:
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    I f this was posted later I would of thought it was April Fool:p
    This will be interesting but why not skate with Isabelle ?
  34. Citlali

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    Thanks everyone for the info, this just makes me miss the CD more :(
  35. Zemgirl

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    It's not too late to announce it as a partnership :lol: Certainly Tiffany deserves better than ISU demonstrations.
  36. DORISPULASKI

    DORISPULASKI Watching submarine races

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    :slinkaway: Well I was hoping, but afraid to ask. Tiffany is fabulous. I hope she has a partner soon
  37. Ziggy

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    Thanks for letting us know. I hope she can find a new partner soon.
  38. ice9

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    Me too. :swoon:
  39. Aussie Willy

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    Another communication for Ice dance, including the 2014/15 requirements for the SD.

    http://www2.isu.org/vsite/vnavsite/...3,4844-205151-222374-nav-list,00.html?id=1301

    For senior it will be a Spanish theme with the Paso Doble. For Junior it will be Latin theme with the Silver Samba done as the pattern.

    They have said with the Paso it is only one sequence followed by a Step sequence. Not sure what they are trying to achieve with this.

    The have also published a list of Spanish Dance Rhythms - includes the Fandango, Bolero and Jota (never heard of that one).
    http://www2.isu.org/vsite/vfile/page/fileurl/0,11040,4844-206626-223849-178684-0-file,00.pdf
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  40. casken

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    Yeah, I was just looking at that. WTF is a "Partial Step Sequence"? And why do they require it to happen right after the Paso?