2013-2014 Short Dance Technical Requirements

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  1. morqet

    morqet Active Member

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    The ISU has published the requirements for the Short Dance for next season.

    Senior
    Quickstep
    or
    Quickstep plus one or two of the following Rhythms: Foxtrot, Charleston, Swing.

    Pattern Dance: Two Sections of Finnstep
    - Section 1: Steps # 1-27
    - Section 2: Steps # 28-70
    skated one after the other, Section 1 followed by Section 2, with Step # 1 skated on the JudgesÂ’ side.

    Junior
    Quickstep
    or
    Quickstep plus one of the following Rhythms: Foxtrot, Charleston.

    Pattern Dance: Two (2) Sequences of Quickstep, either skated one after the other or separately. Step #1 of each Sequence must be skated on a different side of the ice surface.

    Other elements for both Junior and Senior
    One short lift
    One Not Touching Midline Step Sequence or Not Touching Diagonal Step Sequence or Not Touching Circular Step Sequence
    One Set of Sequential Twizzles
  2. Skittl1321

    Skittl1321 Well-Known Member

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    YAY Finnstep!
  3. missing

    missing Well-Known Member

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    Samuel Johnson put it best when he said, "When a man is tired of the Finnstep, he is tired of life."
  4. peibeck

    peibeck Counting down the days 'til Skate America

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    Glad it's not the tango! :D Glad they chose this challenging pattern for the Olympic season.
  5. barbk

    barbk Well-Known Member

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    What's the off-the-wall music that works for Quickstep?
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    Does "Hey Big Spender" or "Minnie the Moocher" fit the prescribed rhythms? Please say no, please say no

    :scream:
  8. nuge

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    Lot's of Dancing fools comin up remember the year everyone seemed to use this music ? Was it 01 ?
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    Tammi Merlot lover

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  10. mag

    mag Well-Known Member

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    Yippee, I love the quickstep!!
  11. zotza

    zotza Active Member

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    I think both in 01 and 05.I remember muttering "I'm a dancing fool yeah" against my will for 3 hours straight
    I think we'll have a lot of Sing Sing once again...
  12. skatak

    skatak Well-Known Member

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    just wondering how some russian will include a Waltz in here :D
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  15. Aussie Willy

    Aussie Willy Well-Known Member

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    I look foward to seeing this. Although hopefully we will get to see some good choices of music. I think skaters have started heading a bit more out of the box in their selections this season. Also I don't mind having both Senior and Junior doing the same themes.

    Let's see how many couples do the choctaw in the quickstep correctly.
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    Cherub721 YEAH!

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  17. Alixana

    Alixana recovering Oly-holic

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    Is it shallow to think about all the "interesting" costumes that we'll see? :D
  18. Lara

    Lara Well-Known Member

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    Definitely looking forward to this SD. :cheer2:
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    One Not Touching Midline Step Sequence or Not Touching Diagonal Step Sequence or Not Touching Circular Step Sequence

    Is that completely new? Obviously I've seen both of the other choices, but I don't recall diagonal being an option before.
  20. LilJen

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    No, no, no. Unless they totally change the tempo. But never fear, I'm sure there'll be some awesome horrible earworms that will dominate.

    Americans, Brits, French, Russians, I don't care; that would be really fun.
  21. The Accordion

    The Accordion Well-Known Member

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    Definitely '01!!! I remember looking up at the big screen in the corners and reading those words over and over and over!
  22. Susan M

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    For the Finnstep portion, the ISU specifies 2/4 time with 104 beats per minute (52 measures).

    Sing, Sing, Sing is 4/4, but it is surely swing so could be used elsewhere in the program.

    Are you talking about the Frank Zappa song? That was written in 1979 and I don't think of it as swing or Charleston (just bad marching band music).
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  23. Fridge_Break

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    No, the Barry Manilow version. :scream:
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    Dd got into the car after her first lesson on the quickstep and the first words out of her mouth were "Mom it has that Choctaw in it!" She then went on to tell it it was going to be a hard one to do well, but it would be lots of FUN!!!

    I actually don't know what a Choctaw is, but I suspect I will need to learn so I can be suitably impressed when she does it correctly. Needless to say, she is still working her way through the compulsory dance tests ... No SD anytime in the near future for her.
  25. Aussie Willy

    Aussie Willy Well-Known Member

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    My favourite Choctaw is the Blues Choctaw.
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  27. Susan M

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    OMG, just as awful but in a different way. Next season will be painful if we have to hear this at every event.
  28. kirkbiggestfan

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    Susanna Rahkamo's banker should send a bottle of champagne to the ISU every time they pick the Finnstep. ;)
    She is going to be busy this summer, right?
  29. Capella

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    They added circular for 2012-2013, so diagonal will be new for 2013-2014.
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    I had a young skater one time who was told what she needed to improve on by some judges. She came to me and said "They told me I need more variety in my footwork. They said add some bokchoys". :lol:
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  31. danceronice

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    In the real world (ie ballroom dancing) you could probably make either one into a Foxtrot or Tango but it would take a LOT of tweaking to make them a Quickstep. (Big Spender is more start-and-stop and would probably be an okay American Tango, Minnie the Moocher would be Slow Fox.)

    You could, if you wanted to do a "not mindbogglingly dull same-old" quickstep, use "Bounce With Me", "Crabbukit", "Call the Law", "Theme From Spider-Man" (Michael Buble cover or its Junkie XL remix.) Really, anything that's not "Dancing Fool", "Swing Swing Swing", or that song from "The Mask"...QS can get like Paso Doble, ie "If I hear 'Espana Cani' ONE MORE TIME..."
  32. Aussie Willy

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    Ah I want to see a Spiderman SD.
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  34. nuge

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    What OD was that when Denstas used Toy Story :eek:Charleston and what else ?
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    Who knew that when all of us were bemoaning the million "Dancin' Fools" in the 2000-2001 season that the ISU would inadvertently answer this 13 years later with having such lenient musical requirements for a "short dance"?
  36. Skittl1321

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    Choctaws are hard- I really really hate them :) Technically the step from back to forward for a spin wind-up is a choctaw, but that isn't what skates are thinking of when they talk about hard choctaws. The one that go forward to back are very difficult.

    So you know what to look for: they are a turn that changes foot and edge. (Whereas a mohawk changes foot but keeps the same edge.) IIRC, the quickstep choctaw is Left-forward outside edge to Right Back Inside edge.
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  37. gkelly

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    Foxtrot
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  40. Aussie Willy

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    I asked a coach at my rink about how they did choctaws as figures. Discovered that choctaws were not part of figures, they were only ever part of ice dance. Funny how the skaters are now doing them in step sequences to get the levels.