2013-14 U.S. International Selection Pool (ISP) & Team Envelopes

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  1. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    U.S. Figure Skating has published their 2013-14 International Selection Pool (ISP) lists by discipline: http://www.usfigureskating.org/Athletes.asp?id=447

    I've copied the lists and added 2013 U.S. Nationals placements/withdrawals below.

    * = ISU Junior age-eligible in 2013-14 (and has not competed on Senior Grand Prix yet)

    MEN (27)
    Max Aaron S1
    Jeremy Abbott S3
    Jason Brown* S8
    Stephen Carriere S10
    Nathan Chen* J3
    Timothy Dolensky DNQ/E-S6
    Richard Dornbush S6
    Joshua Farris* S4
    Tomoki Hiwatashi* N1
    Grant Hochstein S15
    Spencer Howe* DNQ/P-J5
    Alexander Johnson S7
    Evan Lysacek WD-inj.
    Jimmy Ma* J4
    Armin Mahbanoozadeh S13
    Oleksiy Melnyk* N2
    Keegan Messing S16
    Ross Miner S2
    Jordan Moeller* J5
    Brandon Mroz S9
    Shotaro Omori* J2
    Nix Phengsy* J7
    Douglas Razzano S12
    Adam Rippon S5
    Daniel Samohin* N4
    Nicholas Vrdoljak* N3
    Vincent Zhou J1 (not JGP age-eligible until 2014-15)

    Johnny Weir is not listed, but I assume his name could still be added if he competes and/or is monitored this summer?

    LADIES (29)
    Kiri Baga* S13
    Mariah Bell* J2
    Ashley Cain* S12
    Samantha Cesario S8
    Karen Chen* J4
    Alissa Czisny WD-inj.
    Polina Edmunds* J1
    Morgan Flood* N5
    Christina Gao S5
    Amber Glenn* J5
    Gracie Gold S2
    Courtney Hicks* S4
    Leah Keiser* WD-inj.
    Vanessa Lam* WD-inj.
    Brianna Laxson* J8
    Amy Lin* N2
    Barbie Long* J3
    Dyllan McIntee* J7
    Hannah Miller* S10
    Mirai Nagasu S7
    Elizabeth Nguyen* N5
    Tyler Pierce* N1
    Yasmin Siraj* S6
    Bradie Tennell* N3
    Madison Vinci* J6
    Ashley Wagner S1
    Angela Wang* S9
    Agnes Zawadzki S3
    Caroline Zhang S11

    PAIRS (20 teams)
    Madeline Aaron & Max Settlage* J3
    Kiri Baga & Taylor Toth S8
    Kaitlin Budd & Nikita Cheban* N2
    Jessica Noelle Calalang & Zack Sidhu J2
    Marissa Castelli & Simon Shnapir S1
    Sophia Dai & Jeffrey Fishman* N5
    Brianna de la Mora & Taylor Wilson J5
    Caydee Denney & John Coughlin WD-inj.
    Haven Denney & Brandon Frazier* S5
    Gretchen Donlan & Andrew Speroff S6
    Tarah Kayne & Daniel O’Shea S7
    DeeDee Leng & Timothy LeDuc S9
    Chelsea Liu & Devin Perini* J4
    Jessica Pfund & AJ Reiss J6
    Alexa Scimeca & Christopher Knierim S2
    Britney Simpson & Matthew Blackmer J1
    Aya Takai & Brian Johnson* N4
    Tiffany Vise & Don Baldwin S10
    Christina Zaitsev & Ernie Utah Stevens* N1
    Felicia Zhang & Nathan Bartholomay S3

    ICE DANCING (19 teams)
    Alexandra Aldridge & Daniel Eaton J1
    Alissandra Aronow & Collin Brubaker S8
    Julia Biechler & Damian Dodge* J9
    Anastasia Cannuscio & Colin McManus S6
    Madison Chock & Evan Bates S2
    Meryl Davis & Charlie White S1
    Kaitlin Hawayek & Jean-Luc Baker* J2
    Madison Hubbell & Zachary Donohue S4
    Lynn Kriengkrairut & Logan Giulietti-Schmitt S5
    Chloe Lewis & Logan Bye* N1
    Lorraine McNamara & Quinn Carpenter* J3
    Holly Moore & Daniel Klaber* J4
    Anastasia Olson & Keiffer Hubbell S7
    Rachel Parsons & Michael Parsons* WD-inj.
    Tory Patsis & Joseph Johnson* N2
    Elliana Pogrebinsky & Ross Gudis* J5
    Hannah Rosinski & Jacob Jaffe* J8
    Maia Shibutani & Alex Shibutani S3
    Sammi Wren & Alexey Shchepetov* N3

    For those interested, here's my annual UNOFFICIAL compilation of U.S. Team A, B and C envelope skaters/teams for the 2013-14 season based on the published criteria: http://unseenskaters.wordpress.com/...envelopes-unofficial-compilation-in-progress/

    The official envelope skaters/teams will be published on the USFS site sometime this spring.
  2. icecat

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    Are Isabella Cannuscio /Michael Bramante not together anymore or did they just not qualify.
  3. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    AFAIK, Cannuscio/Bramante are still together. They placed 9th in Senior Dance, less than 1.5 points behind Aronow/Brubaker in 8th, and perhaps could be added to the ISP if they monitor well this summer.
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    Thanks Sylvia
  5. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    You're welcome.

    IF there are no changes in the Grand Prix selection criteria...

    Guaranteed 2 GP assignments based on their top 12 finish at 2013 Worlds:
    Aaron; Wagner (seeded 4-6), Gold (seeded 4-6); Scimeca/Knierim; Davis/White (seeded 1-3), Chock/Bates, Shibutani/Shibutani.

    Guaranteed at least 1 GP based on being in top 24 of Season Best scores and/or projected World Standings lists as of today (noted below if only 1 is met):
    Miner, Abbott, Dornbush, Farris, Brown [Chen is 24 SB but is expected to return to JGP];
    Nagasu, Gao, Zawadzki, Miller (18 SB), Wang (22 SB);
    Castelli/Shnapir, Denney/Coughlin, Zhang/Bartholomay (15 SB), Denney/Frazier (22 SB);
    Hubbell/Donohue, Kriengkrairut/Giulietti-Schmitt (24 SB), Aldridge/Eaton (18 WS).

    Source info: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/sho...ORES-UPDATED&p=3870298&viewfull=1#post3870298

    ETA that the new pair of Davis/Brubaker (he) could qualify for at least 1 GP as as a "Returning Split Couple"; I believe Lysacek and Czisny (if deemed ready) could qualify as "Come-Back" Skaters." Davis/Brubaker are not yet included in the ISP at this time.
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  6. johndockley92

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    I would like to see Denney/ Frazier return to the JGP along with Angela Wang and Jason Brown, with Hannah Miller probably needing 2 more years. I don't feel like they're quite ready to dominate the senior ranks and I feel like 1 more year would do them all well. I don't understand what the US does with skaters like Zhou who aren't eligible for international junior competitions. Would love to see D/B get a GP :) .. Also not to be negative, but hard for me to imagine De la Mora/ Wilson being ready for Senior internationals.
  7. euterpe

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    Davis/Brubaker can get a GP as a split couple because Rockne finished 10th at 2011 Worlds.

    Czisny qualifies as a comeback skater because she finished 5th at Worlds 2011. However, Lysacek used up his one-time-only opportunity when he was scheduled for two events in the 2011-2012 GP and then withdrew.
  8. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    This was posted before the 2012-13 GP selections were made:
    So it sounds like Lysacek could still use the clause if he wants 2 GPs?

    Typo correction for my original post #1:
    Ladies - Morgan Flood* N4 (not N5)

    Removed from the ISP dance list:
    Anastasia Olson & Keiffer Hubbell S7
    Hannah Rosinski & Jacob Jaffe J8 - This Jan. 17th Cleveland Plain Dealer article mentioned their plans to retire after Nationals to attend college (Jaffe had "earned early acceptance into Brown but decided to delay being an Ivy League freshman for a year.")
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  9. blancanieves

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    Wait, does that mean Olson/Hubbell have split?
  10. misskarne

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    How is Lysacek still in this list when he hasn't competed since Vancouver?
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  11. Debbie S

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    The ISP represents the skaters eligible for international assignments. Evan is the reigning OGM, with a bye to Nationals, and he has said he would like to compete next season. Decisions about the ISP are based on competitive history, but not necessarily last season's history.
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    If the rules don't change. This year's definition of a "Come-Back Skater/Couple" is "Skaters/Couples who were previously seeded (placed 1 to 6 within the past 10 years at an ISU World Figure Skating Championship) and subsequently did not participate in one or more competitive seasons will be given priority consideration to re-enter the Grand Prix for selection of up to 2 assignments" (if they commit in writing, etc. It also says they "would be considered for selection as a Host Country Choice," but while there might be pressure for USFS to use one spot at Skate America for Lysacek, which they probably would anyway, last year Weir was assigned to Rostelecom Cup and Trophee Bompard, and Ando was assigned to Cup of China and Trophee Bompard.
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    no flatt..... :(
  14. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    4 additions have been made to the ISP: Davis/Brubaker in pairs, Flatt, Weir, and Brian Krentz (J8 at Nationals & JGP age-eligible).
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    He didn't have to use it. He was still Top 24 in WS and entitled to one, and he was chosen as a host pick by USFS in addition to the guaranteed spot.
  16. LilJen

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    Yeah, what's the situation? Did they just not get scores that were high enough to automatically qualify, or have they split, or ???
  17. Sylvia

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    My hearsay info is that Olson/Hubbell have split. There has been no official announcement that I know of and their 2012-13 Team USA bio on IN has not yet been updated with the "ended partnership in xxx" sentence.
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    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Elise Middleton and Robert Hennings are listed in Team C. Have they not officially informed USFS of their split? Because I was under the impression that that was a done deal a while ago and that she already has a new partner.
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    I'm told they will be removed from the envelope as soon as their split has been verified.

    ETA that Armin Mahbanoozadeh is not listed in the Team C envelope and his name was removed from the ISP - here's the GSD thread I started about his retirement from skating and college plans: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/sho...eh-announces-his-retirement-amp-college-plans
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    JGP assignments look like some very good skaters going head to head
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  24. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Yes, it's earlier than usual!

    [Edited to remove the JGP assignments that were prematurely posted]

    AFAIK they don't meet any of the Team C envelope criteria.
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  25. mgobluegirl

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    I'm surprised Miller didn't get one of the first three JGP assignments.
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    It looks like they removed the JGP listings, unless I am totally missing something.
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    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    The JGP assignments have been removed from USFS' Assignments page, so I guess we should consider them as preliminary / not set in stone / still unofficial...
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    Did USFS forget about TEB on the calendar of events?
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    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Yes - the TEB entries have since been added on their Assignments page.
  30. Sylvia

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    Re-posting this relevant excerpt from the Grand Prix Assignments thread:
    The 2013-14 team envelope criteria were published in the fall of 2012 ("All Grand Prix skaters in 2013-14" is not included as one of the criteria for Team B): http://www.usfsa.org/Athletes.asp?id=350

    It's possible Zhang qualified for Team C based on the following envelope criterion:
    "Consideration to place the athletes in Team C - Tier 1 will be given for senior level skaters placing lower at the U.S. Figure Skating Championships where the event was very strong or the results were very close."
    (The 8th to 10th place Senior ladies at Nationals met other Team C criteria and there was a 11+ gap in points between Zhang's total score in 11th and Ashley Cain's in 12th.)
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  31. l'etoile

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    Yay for Caroline!
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    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Middleton/Hennings have now been removed from Team C.

    Lysacek and Lindsay Davis/Rockne Brubaker were assigned to the Grand Prix so they eventually will be added to the Reserve Team envelope.
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    Lysacek may not have requested envelope funding. I know for a fact that he did not request envelope funding for the 2011-12 season. I do not know if he requested envelope funding for the 2012-13 or 2013-14 seasons. However, Lysacek was never added to the reserve team last season after he was assigned to the Grand Prix.
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    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    This is the relevant criterion under Additional Considerations: http://www.usfsa.org/Athletes.asp?id=350
    "Athletes/teams assigned to an international competition, who are not in the current season's envelope structure, will be placed in the reserve envelope. If the athlete/team medal at a Senior B International, a Junior Grand Prix or a Senior Grand Prix competition, they will be placed, immediately, in Team Envelope C - Tier 2 and receive the remaining funding for that season."

    The Reserve team envelope is unfunded. If Lysacek ends up competing internationally this season yet declines any envelope funding for 2013-14, I think his name should still be listed and his Team USA bio linked from the Team USA Athletes page: http://www.usfsa.org/Athletes.asp?id=209
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    In the 2011-12, and 2012-13 seasons, Lysacek's name was never added to the Reserve Team despite being assigned to compete at Grand Prix events during both seasons. Moreover, in those years, the USFSA had the discretion to name him to the Team C envelope. When I spoke to Patricia St. Peter at 2011 Skate America, I specifically asked her why Lysacek was not included on either the Team C envelope or the Reserve Team. She responded that Lysacek was not included because he did not request funding.
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    Lindsay Davis & Rockne Brubaker were added to the reserve team and Isabella Cannuscio & Michael Bramante were added to the ISP. There may be more additions to the ISP but that was the only one I noticed.
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  37. Sylvia

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    Daniel Samohin (N4) has been removed from the ISP. He currently is listed as representing Israel in the second JGP in Mexico City.
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    Spencer Howe was added to the reserve team after getting 5th at sectionals. That should be he should be assigned a JGP.