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2013-14 Program Music & Choreographer news & info known to date

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Sylvia, Apr 16, 2013.

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  1. Sylvia

    Sylvia The JGP season is here!

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  2. MR-FAN

    MR-FAN Kostner Softie

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    Insane!! INSANE!!! What a program!!

    This kid is on his way to becoming the greatest skater in the history of the sport. Just unbelievable.
     
  3. spikydurian

    spikydurian Well-Known Member

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    Very nice programs for Brown. What a lot of talented 17yo kids - Hanyu, Brown, Farris and Yan. Can't wait to see who will prevail and dominate in the next couple of years. Hanyu is the kid to beat for now.
     
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  4. VarBar

    VarBar Well-Known Member

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    Either that or he will follow in the footsteps of Adam Rippon.:slinkaway Only time will tell.

    Jason has an excellent CoP program with transitions into most if not all his jumps. I wish him the very best of luck in the new season.

    Thanks to misskarne for the video links.:)
     
  5. Proustable

    Proustable New Member

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    FWIW, Camerlengo choreographed Weaver/Poje's 2009/10 FD to "Phantom of the Opera" for those wondering about music cuts.
     
  6. rayhaneh

    rayhaneh Well-Known Member

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    Well, Adam Rippon isn't exactly the worst skater out there ;)

    I really enjoy the steps sequence of the LP - LOVE the choreo of the SP. You can tell that he really enjoys exploring the possibilities that the music offers in terms of interpretation, and that's a welcome sight: the sport definitely needs more skaters like that!

    Ah I had forgotten it was him who choreographed it! Thank you ;)
     
  7. Emdee

    Emdee Well-Known Member

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    I love Adam Rippon but like Stephen Carriere hasnt realized his potential...
     
  8. aftershocks

    aftershocks Well-Known Member

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    ^^ Ah yeah, well I think it's a good thing for all the skaters to follow in their own footsteps/ bootsteps. And hooray hooray ain't it a good thing neither Adam nor Jason will be following in your footsteps VarBar and Emdee. :D
     
  9. Zemgirl

    Zemgirl Well-Known Member

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    I'm not seeing what everyone else is and certainly not what you did. Maybe it'll look better to me with more mileage on the program and better camera work/sound.

    You are joking, right? Even if you do think he has that kind of potential, those would be some pretty big boots to fill for a skater who is 18 and has yet to debut as senior.

    Hanyu, Farris and Brown are 18 (born within a month of each other, actually), but point taken ;)
     
  10. Emdee

    Emdee Well-Known Member

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    If they did follow in MY footsteps their feet would be better secured to the ground!
     
  11. aftershocks

    aftershocks Well-Known Member

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    ^^ :lol: So I guess that means you believe you're more grounded. Or, that you can't skate and don't dare learn how.

    Seriously, who knows what life has in store for any of us? No matter what happens to Adam in the future, he's very blessed and it seems to me he's taking a positive approach to his skating career and giving it his all. Not everyone can or will make it to the top of the Olympic podium. It's about what you do with what happens to you, what you learn, what you give, and enjoying the moments of that journey. For fans, it's the special moments we'll always remember re our favorite skaters, not how many medals they win or lose. If we're caught up in the medals then we'll never be satisfied and we'll miss the moments that matter most.

    I loved Adam's performances at Nats this year and last, along with some other special memories. I wish him the best of luck this coming season.


    ETA:

    It's nice to see so many people enthusiastic re Jason's Riverdance, especially in light of the more tepid responses when his program was announced earlier in this thread. ;) From what I've read, many people seem to admire Rohene's choreography, which is still a work-in-progress. Jason is definitely an exceptional skater with a bright enthusiastic personality which I hope he never loses.

    Jason, Rohene, and Kori have been a great match and I'm intrigued to see how Jason's new program develops. He moves so beautifully and he interprets the music equally beautifully. While the program already has depth and nuance, it was actually difficult for me to get a good sense of the overall moves and footwork since the video's quality while sharp was not great re Jason's black pants fading into the the black boards. I do feel spoiled when it comes to watching Jason. :encore: I can't wait to see his new costumes and see this program's further development in the fall.
     
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  12. casken

    casken Well-Known Member

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    The second half of Jason's programs is absolutely packed. Transitions everywhere.
     
  13. orbitz

    orbitz Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sold on RD yet. I'm sure it'll get much better as the season progressed. I don't think RV music lends itself to IJS footwork very well though. The music demands fast, nimble footwork, but you can see that Jason still has to do all the turns and twists to satisfy IJS; I felt the footwork didn't go with the music.
     
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  14. apple123

    apple123 Banned Member

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    Finally someone saw the light! Jason has sacrifized speed for transitions and lost the charm of the music. Not wise IMO.

     
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  15. AxelAnnie

    AxelAnnie Well-Known Member

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    oohhhh! very excited. this will be fabulous
     
  16. dots

    dots Well-Known Member

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    The last part is from Santa Esmeralda "Queremos Mas Chacha" /"Another Chacha"

    Ha! Both Karen Kadavy(SP) and D/S(OD) have used it before (both used different parts of this song).
     
  17. leapfrogonice

    leapfrogonice Active Member

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    Phantom of the Opera and Les Miserables should earn music penalties. I mean, seriously...
     
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  18. MR-FAN

    MR-FAN Kostner Softie

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    LOOOOVED his footwork, speed and rhythm. And despite this being his first outing, I was shocked by how well the footwork went with the music. How can anyone NOT see the greatness that this program is destined to be? an unbelievably long shot, but I really hope he makes it to the Sochi (along with Abbott :swoon: )

    JASON FREAKIN BROWN's LP!!!!!
     
  19. parapluies

    parapluies Well-Known Member

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    :rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
  20. cbd1235

    cbd1235 Well-Known Member

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    Phantom of the Opera and Akiko Suzuki? I'll take it :). I'd rather see last years Long Program make a re-appearance, but Akiko can do POTO some justice so I can't complain :)
     
  21. misskarne

    misskarne #408

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    Just out of curiosity, do you make the same complaint with Patrick Chan?
     
  22. Zemgirl

    Zemgirl Well-Known Member

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    Can I make that complaint about Patrick Chan? Not necessarily the speed, but the musical expression is often secondary these days to the display of skill and the inclusion of transitions. Chan just happens to be stronger than his competitors when it comes to the technical components (SS/TR). Because this is what the system incentivizes: transitions and display of skill, with their fit to the music being secondary. And this is what many fans seem to prioritize as well, seeing as how there seem to be a lot more complaints about programs that lack transitions than those that are weaker in other respects.

    To give Jason credit, he does try to do more than play by the rules, and he seems quite charming, but I don't find the result as appealing as many here seem to.
     
  23. VarBar

    VarBar Well-Known Member

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    I knew someone would bring Patrick Chan in the discussion sooner or later. lol

    Didn't Camerlengo also choreograph the LP for Denney/Coughlin last season to Phantom of the Opera? Camerlengo may have developed a soft spot for this music.

    Anyway, we will be able to compare Suzuki's version with Gedevanishvili's of a couple of years ago, as choreographed by David Wilson.
     
  24. Proustable

    Proustable New Member

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    I'd argue that the complaints about lack of musical expression are certainly prevalent (especially in the discussion of Patrick Chan) - how often do we have yet another article/post complaining about the lack of artistry COP celebrates and so on? I do agree that COP incentives transitions to an unnecessary degree.

    Jason Brown is an interesting case. He's been overhyped by the internet machine since US Nationals 2011 and I can't deny I've reacted negatively to that. But he hasn't done much for me either - I saw hints of what everyone else did at World juniors last year, and I'm eager to see him improve (inasmuch as I'm eager to see all juniors improve). But I think a wait-and-see is in order for this program especially given how it's triggered some epic praise already.
     
  25. spikydurian

    spikydurian Well-Known Member

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    Why are you so sensitive miskarne? apple123 is not even a Chan fan. As VarBar says... 'I knew someone will bring Chan's name up' - three names immediately jump to my mind and we all know who they are and in case you are not aware, you are one of them miskarne.;)
    Jason is very delightful to watch, happy? :p
     
  26. misskarne

    misskarne #408

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    No, I am curious. I keep hearing people raving about Chan's transitions being part of his "deservedly" high PCS, when all I see is him throwing the kitchen sink out there without any regard for musical connection. And yet Jason, with his innate musicality, is being slapped down for loading up on transitions.

    Jason is always delightful to watch, so I am always happy. :p
     
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  27. spikydurian

    spikydurian Well-Known Member

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    Be prepared misskarne. The more well known the skater becomes, the more detractors he/she will accrue. apple123 wont't be the last.:D You will have to stand guard 24/7. Good luck.
     
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  28. VarBar

    VarBar Well-Known Member

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    Not sure about that because I've often see fans complaining about empty programs being as generously rewarded on the TR mark as programs that had complex choreographies between the technical elements.
     
  29. Sylvia

    Sylvia The JGP season is here!

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    Courtney Hicks has announced her music: http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130703&content_id=52567666&vkey=ice_news
    Excerpt:
    Alex Chang, who co-coaches her with Jere Michael, choreographed her SP.
     
  30. pinky166

    pinky166 #teamtrainwreck

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    You're right they are talented, but only Yan is still 17 y/o. The rest of them are already 18, turning 19 in the winter. Time Flies...

    I really like Jason's FS and think I'm maybe starting to become a fan. This program is at least way better than Liebestraume, which was lovely but put me right to sleep. Not this! Can't wait to see it all polished up!
     
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