2012 ISU Congress Proposes More of the Same

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Visaliakid, May 30, 2012.

  1. Visaliakid

    Visaliakid Well-Known Member

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    Ice Skating International's editor, George Rossano levels a beatdown on President Cinquanta's effort to circumvent ISU rules on term limits for office, calling the justification for his proposal "frivolous to the point of absurdity."

    http://www.iceskatingintnl.com/archive/commentaries/2012%20ISU%20Congress.htm

    The link to this article has been forwarded to the leadership of U.S. Figure Skating with a request that the USFS voting representative to the upcoming ISU congress be instructed to vote against this proposal. A new president should be elected in 2014 as ISU rules indicate.
     
  2. Dragonlady

    Dragonlady Well-Known Member

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    While I am no fan of Speedy and would love to see him ousted as ISU President, the only viable candidate running to replace him is Didier Gailhuget, President of the French Federation. Is there anyone here who thinks that Didier is the guy to improve the sport’s image and set to rest concerns that “it’s all fixed”?
     
  3. nylynnr

    nylynnr Active Member

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    Surprised Didier is the only person interested in the job. I had heard there were others but maybe that has changed.
     
  4. Dragonlady

    Dragonlady Well-Known Member

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    There is only one other candidate (the head of the Synchro Skating IIRC), and he has no support whatsoever.

    Electing Didier G. as President of the ISU would be the last nail in figure skating's coffin. Hardly the way to restore the public's faith in the results.
     
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  5. skatesindreams

    skatesindreams Well-Known Member

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    Given what has happened to some of the people who have attempted to suggest changes in the ISU, it doesn't surprise me that there is so little interest in the position.
     
  6. overedge

    overedge Well-Known Member

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    From the justification for this proposal:
    Yes, because they've done such an outstanding job of it so far :rolleyes:

    I hope at least some of the delegates will be smart enough to look at the decline in the number/value of TV contracts for skating coverage over the past few years, and the appalling lack of development of online coverage compared to what other sports have done over the same period. Does anyone really want to give the "persons presently involved" the mandate to continue missing out like this?
     
  7. Dragonlady

    Dragonlady Well-Known Member

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    The gentlemen (and I use the term VERY loosely) currently running the ISU (Cinquanta and Dore) are both in their 70's. Perhaps they've lost touch with how best to attract a younger audience and are not as aware of the internet as they could be.
     
  8. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to Nationals!

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    The ISU did launch Facebook fan pages this past season and I've enjoyed the content (photos, videos) on the Figure Skating one.

    ETA: I also enjoyed the ISU's live and archived free video stream of 2012 World Team Trophy and really appreciated all the JGP videos that were uploaded to the ISU's official JGP YouTube channel after each competitor's performance.
     
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  9. overedge

    overedge Well-Known Member

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    If the ISU only figured out last year that maybe they should use Facebook, I think that just proves my point even more strongly.
     
  10. Visaliakid

    Visaliakid Well-Known Member

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    I hope the Congress votes down Speedy's attempt to keep his job until 2016. His term ends in 2014. Send him packing. There are two more years for other candidates to step forward to oppose Didier. First things first. Get rid of Cinquanta!
     
  11. allezfred

    allezfred Old and Immature Admin Staff Member

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    The ISU's media person changed last season and I think that had something to do with the adoption of social media avenues. I know some people seem to enjoy taking every single chance to criticise the ISU (sometimes deservedly), but the Facebook and Youtube stuff that we got this season has been great so I think we should appreciate that.
     
  12. npavel

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    these have been really great steps forward. We should enjoy it. And before we say no to what we have, we should find some alternatives to it
     
  13. overedge

    overedge Well-Known Member

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    I can appreciate it and still say that the ISU is miles and years behind other sport federations when it comes to using new media.
     
  14. alilou

    alilou Crazy Stalker Lady

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    ^^^^^And still also say that it is an old-fashioned hide-bound corrupt organization run by a bunch of septuagenarians who have ruthlessly evicted anyone who dared challenge their power to the point that we are left with apparently only one choice for a new leader - the evidently corrupt Didier Gailhaguet.

    It seems there is no new blood in the organization, no fresh enthusiasm or ideas, just a desperate clinging to the old power bases and status quo. Which is clearly no longer working.

    Also I'm puzzled by the lack of response by FSUers to this information. It's not the first time this information has been posted and received little response (including by me). Maybe we all just feel helpless to do anything about it so can't be bothered discussing it. I'm also a little surprised by posters' support of an organization we know to be inefficient and corrupt, and in a situation where the leaders are trying (again) to extend their tenure of power. (Of course I'm glad their use of social media is improving, but it's hardly the crux of the matter!)

    OMG I hope I'm not being libellous. Well only if what I say is untrue, but I sure don't want the headache of having to prove it. Is that why we all keep silent?

    The only good news is that I read somewhere recently that someone in FS in France (maybe it was Romain Haguenauer) who said that Didier had some good new ideas, and enthusiasm - or something like that. Will try to find the link. Of course it may very well have been a strategic political move on his part to say such a thing.

    ETA: link to interview with Haguenauer
    http://www.ifsmagazine.com/articles/612-romain-haguenauer-a-passion-for-skating
     
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  15. Dragonlady

    Dragonlady Well-Known Member

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    My thoughts on this stuff was "Finally! What took them so long?". That's still no reason to accept reduced GP fields, stupid rules and the people who flout them time and time again, and corruption.
     
  16. allezfred

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    When you do that, you sound whiney just for the sake of it. A clear effort is being made in that area. I think we should encourage it and give praise where it is due.
     
  17. alilou

    alilou Crazy Stalker Lady

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    I don't think she sounds whiney at all. It's great that ISU is finally starting to address social media, but the fact that they left it this late is also indicative of much bigger issues in the organization. Which is the real point I would think.
     
  18. gingercat

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    They did a GREAT Job showing the Jr Grand Prix events live and sharing photos and the excitement from all the events. That was a huge step!
     
  19. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to Nationals!

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    If people agree with George Rossano's editorial (linked in the first post) and want to do or say something about it, then we should each contact our respective federations before the start of the ISU Congress next week (ETA: even if this is merely a "symbolic gesture"):
    ISU Member Federations and their contact info: http://www.sportcentric.com/vsite/v...161375-178590-19296-68634-custom-item,00.html
     
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  20. Visaliakid

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    Next week the initial moves, that will lead to who, when and how the future leadership of the ISU will be determined, will unfold at the 2012 ISU Congress. George Rossano provides thoughtful speculation on the possibilities for a new leader for the sport of figure skating.

    ISU President race
     
  21. overedge

    overedge Well-Known Member

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    From the linked story:
    Who wrote this part? David Dore? I think there might be a few alternate versions of this rendition of history....
     
  22. allezfred

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    You could have just added this to the other thread about the 2012 congress you started 5 days ago. :rolleyes:

    Anyway, thread merged.
     
  23. Visaliakid

    Visaliakid Well-Known Member

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  24. Dragonlady

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    A huge step towards ending corruption in the ISU? A huge step towards the judging transparency and honesty the public wants to see from the ISU?

    I just don't see that making video of competitions available does anything for the honesty and integrity of the sport, which is what this thread was meant to address.
     
  25. Ziggy

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    Whatever you think of Didier Gailhaguet doesn't change the fact that ISU president terms should be limited so that there's at least a semblance of democracy.
     
  26. Dragonlady

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    Absolutely. Speedy shouldn't have been allowed to continue for as long as he has. He should have been retired years ago but he's been very effective at getting rid of those who would oppose him.
     
  27. Morry Stillwell

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    The President of the ISU is elected and reelected by the Member Federations. This is the essence of Democracy. Member Federation are the electors. Do you think that skating fans should be the ones to vote on the ISU President and Council Members?
     
  28. overedge

    overedge Well-Known Member

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    Many skating fans are also members of skating federations that belong to the ISU.
     
  29. Ziggy

    Ziggy Well-Known Member

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    No, I think that it's essential for the democratic process that presidential terms are limited because power corrupts, etc.
     
  30. Aussie Willy

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    At the end of the day though, the fans don't have the vote. The member federations represent the skaters and the sport in their countries. Most of them probably wouldn't even know what the fans think.