Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Sylvia, May 21, 2012.
Sorry to hear about Silete.
What was Silete's injury? It sounds severe.
I cross-posted the article in the French news thread: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showthread.php?p=3687353#post3687353
Ask the French federation.
The French Fed will probably announce their final TEB spots after the Master competition on October 6th. That is what they usually do. I don't see any reason why they would hold onto Yretha's other spot. Lena Marrocco is 53rd on the ISU ranking. I don't see her getting a second GP, but stranger things have happened.
How old is Amelie Lacoste? Seems like she has been competing forever!
Lacoste will turn 24 in December.
flowerpower posted in the Canadian Pairs 2012 thread a report that Dube has an ankle injury, Skate Canada is monitoring her condition, and her status is iffy for Skate America. Since there are only five pairs who've made the GP minimum but don't have two, have split, or have withdrawn, and the US already has three teams, that leaves Zhang/Wang (if they're still together), Della Monica/Guarise, and Bakirova/Kamianchuk as the only substitutes.
I'd love to see Della Monica/Guarise, and if they could scrape together the money to pay for some lessons with Vasiliev, they might be able to arrange a return ticket through Chicago.
Of the US Ladies Grand Prix skaters, who has to compete at either their regional or sectional?
AFAIK, no U.S. Grand Prix ladies or men have to compete at Regionals. As of now, Rachael Flatt does not have a bye through Midwestern Sectionals in November.
In Russia during the test skates I heard that the Russian Federation is preparing to replace Dubé/Wolfe and Hausch/Wende for Cup of Russia. Also, there has been (so far unconfirmed) information that the Belarus couple Bakirova/Kamianchuk has split up, too. Soon, there won't be replacements left.
There is only one US team at RC: the Russian Fed could choose two of Della Monica/Guarise (who don't have any), Vise/Baldwin (the only Top 24 team with one [SC]), and Zhang/Wang (if they are together, were submitted, etc.)
DM/G could go from zero to two by replacing D/W at SA and RC.
So by virtue of being in the Grand Prix, you are not required to do regionals?
If your Regional and/or Sectional event falls within one week of your international event, you receive a bye.
For example, Nagasu receives a bye through SWP Regionals because of her Finlandia Trophy assignment, as well as a bye through Pacific Coast Sectionals due to her Cup of China assignment less than one week before.
Such a shame.
Hopefully Della Monica/Guarise will come out with 2 GPs out of this at least.
See my post here: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3685517&postcount=240
Sad, but good for them!
Tiffany Vise just tweeted:
"Just got assigned to the Grand Prix Rostelecom Cup. It's in Moscow in November! I'm so excited, first trip to Russia."
This must be Hausch/Wende's spot that Vise/Baldwin are filling (ETA that this change is not yet published on the ISU site).
It's reflected on the complete entries list. Dube/Wolfe have been pulled from both assignments.
Glad to see both the Italians and the Israelis getting an assignment!
Thanks! The ISR pair of Montalbano/Krasnapolsky are replacing Dube/Wolfe at Skate America; Della Monica/Guarise (ITA) have been added to Russia.
What a great opportunity for both pairs. Good luck to them!
I wonder what's going on with S/H?
I asked the following question in a Chinese competition thread in Kiss and Cry earlier today:
Can you tell me if Sui/Han are listed in this "2012 National Figure Skating Grand Prix athletes list" document on the federation's site? http://chnfs.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/120913_par.pdf
Della Monica/Guarise and Vise/Baldwin replace Hausch/Wende and Dube/Wolfe.
I wonder if Montalbano/Krasnopolski's assignment is provisional, since they were Top 75, but just missed the GP minimum cut off (120.90) at 2012 Euros (120.32), and scored 117.27 at the US International. They can still make the GP minimum at Nebelhorn.
Since there are only 74 Pairs teams on the SB list, all are Top 75. The only other teams on the list that didn't compete seniors last year, didn't make the minimum score, and that I know haven't split are Herbrikova/Halmaert (CZE, 115.87, entered in Nepala), Martini/Kiefer (AUT, 112.10, entered in Nepala), and Hoolin/Hunt (GBR, 94.08). These teams may have split and some of the juniors may have aged out. H/H especially and M/K have a shot to get the GP minimum at Ondrej Nepala.
Based on sammyf's info, Zhang/Wang should be in the running for a non-host spot. ETA: Wrong Zhang/Wang.
Martini/Kiefer -Registered for Ondrej Nepela so together
Hoolin/Hunt -haven't registered for any IJS events in GBR so probably injured or split
They have a 130.95 from last year's Ice Challenge, shouldn't that count?
No, only the first five or six international competitions at the beginning of the season count towards the GP minimum for that season, and these are listed in the GP announcement each year. This season's are: US International, Nebelhorn 2012, Nepala 2012, Finlandia 2012, Cup of Nice 2012. All other scores towards the GP minimums must be met at GPs, championships, Olympics, the Olympic qualifier, Youth Olympic Games, or WTT in the season before.
Last year's Icechallenge, like all 2011-12 internationals and 2012-13 internationals held before championships (unless specifically noted on the yearly communication), count towards meeting the championship TES minimums for this year. They also did Golden Spin and Nesquick last season.
At Icechallenge, their SP TES was 25.07 and their FS TES was 44.74. They made the Euros minimums easily (20, 36), but missed the Worlds minimums (28, 45). ETA: their TES scores were lower at Golden Spin and Nestle Nesquick.
Since it's possible that Montalbano/Krasnopolski won't meet the GP minimum, why weren't Della Monica/Guarise assigned instead?
Unless the ISU decided to let M/K compete since they only missed the minimum by 0/68.
Anyone in the Top 75 -- which is all 74 pairs with a qualifying PB from last season -- can be assigned even if they haven't met the GP minimum, but, at least in theory, the assignments are provisional, based on whether they meet the GP minimum in the first five Senior B's -- US International, Nebelhorn, Nepala, and Cup of Nice for Pairs and Finlandia for the other disciplines -- at the beginning of this season.
M/K are listed on the Nebelhorn roster. Martini/Kiefer could also be assigned, since they could meet the minimum at Nepala. (As sammyf wrote, Herbrikova/Halmaert split, and they've been removed from the Nepala roster.)
it is and anyone of the competing who did not met the minimum GP
they can still rack points competing in B Competitions prior to GP