2012-13 ISU Grand Prix Assignments

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  1. Gliding on ice

    Gliding on ice New Member

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    IMHO, Han Yan still being held in the Junior circuit is a combination of the Chinese Federation not giving enough attention to the discipline of men’s singles, underestimating their young star’s potential, and their ultimate reluctance to reject the tradition of keeping skaters in the junior circuit till they age out :scream:
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  2. love_skate2011

    love_skate2011 Well-Known Member

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    I don't get this reputation saving face at all
    why sacrifice it when you have a good chance of your skaters giving you 2 or even 3 spots for an Olympics
  3. missing

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    Is it Han Yan or Yan Han? I know the last name should go first, but I'm uncertain which is his last name and which is his first.

    I have great fondness for skaters with easy to spell names, but I'd hate to write such an easy name incorrectly.
  4. love_skate2011

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    Its last name first (Han) , then his first name (Yan)
  5. SamuraiK

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    Yan is actually his last name.
  6. Gliding on ice

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    The Chinese fed would prefer to have more spots for the Olympics. The problem is, however, China has only one spot for Worlds next year, so the question becomes who should be sent.

    Elsewhere, this decision would be based on a skater's capability, i.e. results from Nationals would be considered, and perhaps performances at GP as well.

    But in China, certain people, motivated by their narrowly defined self-interest, would use their influence behind the scenes to sway the decision. Unfortunately, young talents often get wasted during this ugly process as they would never be afforded the opportunity to shine.
  7. NMURA

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    China wants the olympic spots anyway. Nan Song is given the chances to prove his worth. If Han Yan competes as a senior, the international judges could dump Song with no remorse. With all paternalistic considerations, if Song doesn't do well at GPS, the Chinese federation may change their minds.
  8. Ziggy

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    I can't understand why ISU doesn't do what the IOC was doing during 2012 Olympics.

    Surnames were written in capitals.

    So you'd have something like: Patrick CHAN but YAN Han.

    It's really disrespectful and colonialist to keep writing Chinese names the way "we" do it.
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  9. skatingwatcher

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    I understand that there is LOTS more to this story, than "since Schultz broke up with Steele in July".
    Better get the whole story before you simply post rumors!
  10. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    I mentioned the "hearsay" posts in the Skate Canada High Performance Camp thread and noted that Steele/Schultz are still listed on the National Team (I just saw that you have cross-posted there as well): http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showthread.php?p=3676289#post3676289
  11. Hedwig

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    Well, then enlighten us, please.
  12. Lanna

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    They capitalize in the bios, and they've experiemented in the past with results pages (or maybe those were just mistakes)
  13. allezfred

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    Have to disagree with you Ziggy. If it's good enough for the Japanese and Hungarians, it should be the same for the Koreans and Chinese.
  14. Sylvia

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    Hausch/Wende GER have been crossed off the Rostelecom Cup pairs roster in the Sept. 14 update. (Sui/Han are still listed for CoC & NHK.)
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    As far as non-host substitutes go, the only eligible senior Pairs -- i.e. have met the GP minimum -- for a first or second event are:

    20-Vise/Baldwin (CAN)
    34-Zhang/Wang, if they're still together and are healthy
    40-Della Monica/Guarise
    43-Duarte/Grafton
    51-Bakirova/Kamianchuk

    If Sui/Han are, indeed, out, I wouldn't be surprised if they were pulled at the last minute. There are already three American pairs at NHK, which would limit the teams who could replace them there.
  16. Jeschke

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    oh no? any news why? injury?
    they seemd to be cursed in the last time...
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  18. sandra_persch

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    Question on the substitution rules. With medalling at the US Senior B will Aaron, Mahbandozadeh and Miner be put on top of the sustitutes list now?
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    No. Only the winner of a Senior B is put at the bottom of the substitutions list, after Top 75 SB. (That, of course, assumes that they're following what's in the GP Announcement.) Men have to meet the GP minimum of 159.66, which Aaron nearly did in his FS alone.

    Mahbanoozadeh is already #41 on the SB list, Miner has two GP's already (CAN, JPN), and Dolensky is #53 SB. Both Mahbanoozadeh and Dolensky are on the substitutes list above winner Aaron.
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  20. toddlj

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    I know there has been discussion of this already... but the fact that Silete will withdraw has been confirmed.

    Source:
    http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120917&content_id=38561934&vkey=ice_news
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    "It has been just five weeks since two-time French champion Yrétha Silété was severely injured during a practice session. Though she is now ready to leave her rehabilitation center in the Alps, she does not plan to be back on the ice before January at best. "

    I wonder why this has not yet been reflected in the ISU rosters?
  21. Lara

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    Sorry to hear about Silete. :(
  22. mgobluegirl

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    What was Silete's injury? It sounds severe.
  23. Sylvia

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    The French Fed will probably announce their final TEB spots after the Master competition on October 6th. That is what they usually do. I don't see any reason why they would hold onto Yretha's other spot. Lena Marrocco is 53rd on the ISU ranking. I don't see her getting a second GP, but stranger things have happened.
  25. demetriosj

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    How old is Amelie Lacoste? Seems like she has been competing forever!
  26. euterpe

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    Lacoste will turn 24 in December.
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    flowerpower posted in the Canadian Pairs 2012 thread a report that Dube has an ankle injury, Skate Canada is monitoring her condition, and her status is iffy for Skate America. Since there are only five pairs who've made the GP minimum but don't have two, have split, or have withdrawn, and the US already has three teams, that leaves Zhang/Wang (if they're still together), Della Monica/Guarise, and Bakirova/Kamianchuk as the only substitutes.

    I'd love to see Della Monica/Guarise, and if they could scrape together the money to pay for some lessons with Vasiliev, they might be able to arrange a return ticket through Chicago.
  28. demetriosj

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    Of the US Ladies Grand Prix skaters, who has to compete at either their regional or sectional?
  29. Sylvia

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    AFAIK, no U.S. Grand Prix ladies or men have to compete at Regionals. As of now, Rachael Flatt does not have a bye through Midwestern Sectionals in November.
  30. Eislauffan

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    In Russia during the test skates I heard that the Russian Federation is preparing to replace Dubé/Wolfe and Hausch/Wende for Cup of Russia. Also, there has been (so far unconfirmed) information that the Belarus couple Bakirova/Kamianchuk has split up, too. Soon, there won't be replacements left.
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  31. kwanfan1818

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    There is only one US team at RC: the Russian Fed could choose two of Della Monica/Guarise (who don't have any), Vise/Baldwin (the only Top 24 team with one [SC]), and Zhang/Wang (if they are together, were submitted, etc.)

    DM/G could go from zero to two by replacing D/W at SA and RC.
  32. demetriosj

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    So by virtue of being in the Grand Prix, you are not required to do regionals?
  33. chipso1

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    If your Regional and/or Sectional event falls within one week of your international event, you receive a bye.

    For example, Nagasu receives a bye through SWP Regionals because of her Finlandia Trophy assignment, as well as a bye through Pacific Coast Sectionals due to her Cup of China assignment less than one week before.
  34. Ziggy

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    Such a shame. :(

    Hopefully Della Monica/Guarise will come out with 2 GPs out of this at least.
  35. Sylvia

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    Sad, but good for them!
  37. Sylvia

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    Tiffany Vise just tweeted:

    "Just got assigned to the Grand Prix Rostelecom Cup. It's in Moscow in November! I'm so excited, first trip to Russia."

    This must be Hausch/Wende's spot that Vise/Baldwin are filling (ETA that this change is not yet published on the ISU site).
  38. lavenderblue

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    It's reflected on the complete entries list. Dube/Wolfe have been pulled from both assignments.
  39. sandra_persch

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    Glad to see both the Italians and the Israelis getting an assignment!
  40. Sylvia

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    Thanks! The ISR pair of Montalbano/Krasnapolsky are replacing Dube/Wolfe at Skate America; Della Monica/Guarise (ITA) have been added to Russia.
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