2011 Four Continents-Taipei

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  1. walei

    walei Well-Known Member

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    Actually Taipei City is probably one of the LEAST festive part of Taiwan comes Chinese New Year. Main reason being a lot of the residents are from out of town and they flock back home to other parts of Taiwan for the New Years. However like Angelskates said, 4CC is two weeks after CNY, and Taipei City gets back to the routine very quickly so there probably won't be a lot of festivities. Flora expo though is a must see!
  2. newfsfan

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    I meant Lantern Festival, it is usually quiet beautiful, and it is still considered part of New Year activity.
    Did'nt mean to mislead anyone.
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    It´s good to have rules, once you can broking them over and over for the big six federations....
  5. walei

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    Oh you are right! I forgot about the Lantern Festival. I go every year I like shiny lights :D
  6. justAfsfan

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    Sorry ofr out topic post. But could you kindly tell me when and where the lantern festival will take place. I love to visit there while I'm in Taiwan.:)
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    Thank you so much, cmchan and walei.

    On 17th February,I will be in Taichung. Hope there are festivals there too.
  10. newfsfan

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    Lantern Festival lasts about 10 days, so you should be able to see it during the week of 4CC. Taichung probably has one too. It is almost in every city.
  11. sammyf

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    With this http://www.isa.org.au/Documents/High_Performance/HPP-1015-V1.Additional 4 Cont Final.pdf and this http://www.isa.org.au/Documents/High_Performance/National Ranking 16 December 2010.pdf

    Australia should be sending
    (they have all met the min score)
    Cheltzie Lee, Phoebe DiTommaso, Brooklee Han, sub. Jaimee Nobbs
    Mark Webster, Brendan Kerry
    O’Brien/Merriman, Borounov/Borounov

    Japan is sending
    Miki Ando, Mao Asada, Akiko Suzuki
    Takahiko Kozuka, Daisuke Takahashi, Yuzuru Hanyu
    Takahashi/Tran
    Reed/Reed
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  12. sammyf

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    For other FCC countries

    No New Zealand skater has met the minimum score (except Allie who is now a speed skater) so they most likely will not be sending anyone this year.

    For Mexico these have met the min score
    Corenne Bruhns/Benjamen Westenberger
    Ana Cecilia Cantu (maybe retired?)
    Reyna Hamui
    Mary Ro Reyes

    South Africa
    Lejeanne Marais
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  13. walei

    walei Well-Known Member

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    Yay for Japan sending their A list team!
  14. beebee

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    The Organizing Committee has posted ticket collection instructions on the official website. Collection will start at 9:00 am on Feb 15. at the North entrance of the Taipei Arena.
  15. pinky33

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    I think Brooklee Han is too young to compete at 4CC.
  16. Sylvia

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    Correct, by 6 days, according to her ISU bio (her DOB is July 6 and she needed to have turned 15 by June 30, 2010): http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00012864.htm

    I don't think it's unreasonable for the ISU to wait until all countries have held their national championships before submitting their Four Continents (or Europeans) entries. Germany was allowed to submit "TBA" for their 2011 Europeans entries, for example.
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  17. care bear

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    One question about ticktes http://figureskating.com.tw/2011FCC/eng/skate_e_tickets.php

    OC Tickets Counter Reminer: Spectators must present the receipt of Spectator Registration Form and personal identification ID (e.g. passport, Citizenship ID Card and etc.)
    But I have not got any receipt, I just filled the form in and sent it from official site. I have not received confirmation from the organizers.:confused:
  18. beebee

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    After I submitted my order form, a screen with "Submit Completed" on top came up (included the number of tickets ordered for each event). I printed this thinking it would serve as the receipt and I'm sure that's what they are referring to.
  19. sammyf

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    The final list was officially posted, its Lee, Nobbs, Webster, Kerry and the two dance teams.

    Korea is sending Ladies - Min-Jeong Kwak, Chae-Wha Kim, Yea-Ji Yun; Men - Min-Seok Kim

    I wonder if some more teams will meet the minimum ISU score at Asian Games?
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  20. newfsfan

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    Canadian Team - ISU Four Continents Figure Skating Championships, Taipei City, Chinese Taipei - February 15 – 20, 2011

    Pair
    Kirsten Moore-Towers, 18, St. Catharines, Ont. / Dylan Moscovitch, 26, Toronto, Ont.
    Meagan Duhamel, 25, Lively, Ont. / Eric Radford, 25, Balmerton, Ont.
    Paige Lawrence, 20, Kennedy, Sask. / Rudi Swiegers, 23, Kipling, Sask.

    Ladies
    Cynthia Phaneuf, 23, Contrecoeur, Que.
    Myriane Samson, 22, St-Jean-sur-Richelieu, Que.
    Amélie Lacoste, 22, Delson, Que.

    Men
    Shawn Sawyer, 26, Edmundston, N.B.
    Joey Russell, 22, Labrador City, Nfld.
    Kevin Reynolds, 20, Coquitlam, B.C.

    Ice Dance
    Tessa Virtue, 21, London, Ont. / Scott Moir, 23, Ilderton, Ont. :rollin:
    Vanessa Crone, 20, North York, Ont. / Paul Poirier, 19, Unionville, Ont.
    Kaitlyn Weaver, 21, Waterloo, Ont. – Houston, TX / Andrew Poje, 23, Waterloo, Ont.

    ps, for anyone that did not print before submit, bring the ID you used to order tickets.
  21. walei

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    Wow so besides Chan the podium finishers are all going to compete at 4CC!!
  22. Extranjera

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    chan isn't going to compete at 4CC? Why? :(
  23. care bear

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    O, thank you!:)
  24. Skate Talker

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    Because he is, by his own admission, a bad traveler and 3 more trips to the opposite side of the globe this season doesn't seem smart to him. (He is hoping that Canada will be one of the teams at the team event in April, so along with 4CC and Worlds that is 3 more high-level competitions.) Since the Worlds is top priority, and ISU has made the team championships mandatory and the entry of a country's top skaters mandatory, 4CC is really the only one that is optional for him.

    If you want to hear some of his own words on the decision, go to SkateBuzz.com and watch the video interview he did with Debbie Wilkes after winning the Canadian Championships.
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  25. fsf9012

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    Since Chan already won the 4CC in 2009, I don't think he has a motivation to compete. Isn't the ISU team trophy this year? If he goes to the 4CC and the team trophy, he will have 4 major competitions in Asia this season. He made a wise decision. It's time to focus on the worlds. BTW, why the ISU assigns competitions to one continent? Asian countries got the GPF 3 years in a row. Aside from the worlds and the team trophy, at least they could have adjust the GPF host.
  26. newfsfan

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    USA 4CC:
    Ladies: Czisny:swoon: :glamor:, Flatt, Nagasu (alt. Wagner, Zawadzki, Gao)
    Pairs: Yankowskas & Coughlin, Evora & Ladwig, Denney & Barrett (alt. Vise/Baldwin, Marley/Brubaker, Casteli/Shnapir)
    Dance: Davis & White:glamor:, Shibutani/Shibutani, Chock/Zuerlein. (alt. Hubbell/Hubell, Lynn/Logan, Cannuscio/Lorello)

    so excited, hope they all show up:40beers:
  27. Flying Camel

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    I would be surprised to see Czisny or Flatt at four continents.
  28. anony

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    Excited about the US team! Hopefully it'll be a good show for the audience. The stadium is really quite new (5-6 years old!) and very nice. And it's really actually in the city as opposed to being somewhere on the outskirts so lots of fun and sights to see and do.

    At the risk of sounding like a tour guide, and I know this is probably a bit late, but I really hope there will be people going to Taiwan who have never been there before!

    Taipei is just such a fun fun city with so much good food! 3-5 US dollars for a drink with endless refills, soup, biscuit, steaming pork chops, rice, and veggies is seriously a steal.

    Obviously you have to try as much Chinese food as possible (Din Tai Fung is a must!), but I swear that even the McDonalds there taste better than in the US. Seriously. Even French food, Italian food, Japanese food, Korean food, Russian food - it's all there and delicious (even if the Western dishes aren't as "genuine" as they could be) And if you see a fruit shop/stand on a street corner somewhere, go in and check out all the awesome fruits. And don't be afraid to wander into one of the lovely little bakeries scattered all around or try some street vendor food.

    And of course, sightseeing-wise, the National Palace Museum is an absolute absolute must, Taipei 101 of course, Flora Expo, Sun Yat-sen Memorial Hall, and one of the night markets - Shilin is the most famous.

    So yes! So happy that Taipei is getting a big competition! (Too bad it's not Worlds hehehe.)
  29. DinDonShamu

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    As someone who grew up in Taipei I can safely say Taiwan has the best food in the world :D. Even those "genuine" European dishes don't taste as good as Taiwanese variations. Unfortunately, I don't find Ding Tai Fung that special. However, you can watch them make those Xiaolong buns from outside the restaurants. The efficiency of the chefs were :eek:, and their movements a beauty. My cousin told me that McDonald's now only serve four types of sandwiches. Their main selling points are the other things, among them popcorn chicken and multi-flavored porridge (someone correct me if I'm wrong. Memories are failing me recently).

    I would recommend you skip dinner and roam around the night market to order some (or all :D) of these:

    http://www2.scu.edu.tw/foreign/epower/selfstudy/resources/night_eng.htm

    Definitely try to "feel" Taipei and its vibe. For visitors who are comfy with the West Coast suburbs, the density of buildings and the disorderliness of traffic can at first come as a shock, but once you're more settled you will find it extremely charming. It is small compared to many other metropolis, but that also means everything is in vincinity, like a jewelry box full of treasures. Almost every tourist spot is reachable by MRT, but you can choose to gently rock your way to them in a bus and enjoy the slow traffic.

    More sightseeing points:

    You should definitely visit Shilin night market as well as Raohejie and Gongguan (?) night market. While you're there, don't forget to visit the century-old University of Taiwan itself.

    Anony mentioned Taipei 101, but she really meant the area around the building as well, including all the fancy shops and stores and restaurants. Xinyi District is the "newer" part of Taipei and had a lot of good stuff. I especially love to visit the five story Eslite Bookstore a few blocks away from city hall. Easily a day gone for book lovers (as well as lovers for the random stuff like binders, pens, envelopes, etc.).

    I also find the area around Taipei Trains Station very exciting. There are department stores of course, but I found rows and rows of shops in the "old" streets much more attractive. The presidential office is also within walking distance. Be sure to check out the underground streets that connects the train station as well as a couple MRT stations.

    You can also visit Danshui old town and fisherman's wharf there.

    ETA: OMG forgot to mention ... The lantern festival. Visit Chiang Kai Shek Memorial Hall http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiang_Kai-shek_Memorial_Hall at night, around 2/17 and be amazed.
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  30. nikjil

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    I visited Taiwan in November, spent a long weekend with my brother who lived there for several years. Din Tai Fung was wonderful but difficult to get into. Luckily, he has a friend who has pull, so we were able to get reservations to several hard to get into places. We stayed at the Grand Hyatt, which I was not impressed with and would suggest people avoid it, although the location is great. If the Cloud Gate Dance troupe is performing, they are a must to see at the National Theatre. Another great and more expensive restaurant is Jen Chien, which is Chinese fusion, very neat modern decor with the coolest entrance. Taihodien specializes in spicy hotpot and is wonderful but you definitely need reservations. We went to the Tunghua Chieh night market, which was in my brother's old neighborhood. It's really not very touristy, more household items and clothing for locals but lots of food stalls if you want to eat street food, which is quite good. If you want to try the Taiwan drink of pearl milk tea go to Chun Shui Tang, which has several locations.

    A really terrific place, in easy walking distance from the Chiang Kai-Shek memorial is the Taiwan Handicrafts Center. This 4-story floor is full of items all made by Taiwanese craftsmen. It has a wide range from expensive "tourist" items to hugely expensive fine jewelry and wall hangings. I did most of my Christmas shopping there. Another great place to see is the Lungshan Temple, going during a service is just amazing. Tainan Tu Hsiao Yueh is a wonderful, amazingly inexpensive restaurant that serves southern Taiwanese food that's cooked in a small open kitchen by the entrance, it's on a small side street that must have 50 restaurants each one of which looked fantastic.

    Definitely try any of the little noodle shops you see on side streets and alleys. We went to one called My Noodle Shop, it has a small kitchen in the back and a street kitchen. For less than $10 U.S. we had dumplings, sodas, and two different kinds of noodles.
  31. Sylvia

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    This color-coded schedule was posted in the 4CC section.

    http://www.isuresults.com/events/FC_2011_ColouredTimeSchedule.pdf

    I'm finding it kind of confusing. The original printed schedule on the website made it look like there was only a Preliminary Round for Ladies, but this is clearly not so. Anyone smarter than I who knows what's happening?
  33. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Like HisWeirness? :)

    For those without access to the Kiss and Cry forum (where the Four Continents event discussion is supposed to take place), here's a useful link/post excerpt:
    http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3061703&postcount=30
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  34. beebee

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    Thanks Sylvia. I'm going to both 4CC and Worlds and was confusing the Preliminary Rounds for the two events (duh!) The info posted by HisWeirness is extremely helpful.
  35. HisWeirness

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    I only see a preliminary round for Ladies (Pre-L F) in the colored schedule.
    Prior to the preliminary round the preliminary round ladies and the direct entry ladies practice in separate groups on this schedule.
    Practices are in a solid color while competitions just have colored bands at the start and end of the competition.
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    HisWeirness--you have helped me see the light. Thanks!
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  37. Sasha'sSpins

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    Ok anony and DinDonShamu-you've talked me into it.

    Now I have to add visiting Taipai as one of my life goals!!! Your respective descriptions of the food alone hooked me!! :watch:

    I am desperate to see footage of this competition! It will be the only time this year all top 3 U.S. women will compete against Japan's best! :)

    There's just one more thing-the Vegetarian Squid with Green Vegetables. How can that be vegetarian?? And what's a 'coffin' on the menu?? Sounds deadly! :D
  38. newfsfan

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    Here is a picture of 'coffin', http://blog.roodo.com/spoon/archives/8686235.html
    It is a piece of fried bread stuff with some yammy

    The squid in Vegetarian Squid with Green Vegetables is actually made with konjac jelly so it is a vegetarian dish.
  39. justAfsfan

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    Could someone please kindly help me on this

    I saw on 4CC website


    "The Organizing Committee will arrange the seats according to the actual registered time and dates. Any duplicate registrations, the Organizing Committee will reserve the ticket amount based on the latest registration record"



    Is this apply to the first round of registration also. Bacause I register for Men and women fs for the first time and later I register for pair because I don't know that the duplicate policy is applied. Is this means I will only get ticket for pair FS?

    Anyone know about this?
    I'm so sad now, I really looking forward to see Yuzuru LP.


    I will be really grateful if someone can help me clarify since I still have time to book ticket for men sp, pair lp and free dance.
    Thank you so much
  40. Visaliakid

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    The answer in a word is: Profitability! That's where the sport is booming; Television ratings are huge and networks are willing to pony up big fees to the ISU for coverage rights. Until this changes the current situation will continue.