Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by HisWeirness, Apr 5, 2011.
She gets extra points for accuracy.
"s" as in, for sh!t jumping!
Today the ISU released ISU Communication 1677 (34 pages) which includes technical rules for ice dance (Scales of Values, GOE, and Components for pattern dances, Scales of Values, GOE, and levels for required elements, Program components marking, clothing restrictions).
Here is an excerpt from the clothing restrictions:
page 30 (program components adjustments):
So we're back to the uplifting effect, eh? No more Schindler's List, Tristan & Isolde, -- and maybe not Salome either?
And I've yet to hear an Argentine Tango with anything like an uplifting effect. (Though for me personally, loss of accordions playing tango would be an improvement.)
And exactly how are they going to determine what is "understandable to the audience"?
LOL those rules are sooo pointless.. and in the ends the judges won't bother with them like they didnt with Amodio. I bet Khokhlova or Hoffmann will still manage to dress slutty enough
Will this be otherwise known as the Domnina & Shabalin rule?
I don't know why a dance has to be uplifting and/or understandable. IMO dance is art and art isn't always uplifting or understandable.
Where are they supposed to make this deduction in the PCS? Choreography? Performance?
I'd rather have an "annoyingly perky" deduction than one for music that isn't "uplifting."
"not clearly understandable" comes out of composition/choreography (CC)
"music does not have an uplifting effect" comes out of interpretation/timing (IT)
I am no native English speaker so I may be off base but isn't uplifting not meant to be something like happy/clappy/perky but more "morally erecting" (which is the direct translation from German) which could mean pretty much everything apart from elevator music?
Presumably narcocorridos then are explicitly forbidden ??
They are a distinctly non-uplifting polka.
Shame that it didn't work.
That would be awesome! Lack of steps is never going to get deducted by the blind judges otherwise.
Yes, yes, yes.
If that rule applies to just the FD, my take of it would be that the uplifting effect is not a requirement in the SD and I'd be really curious to know why they don't use the same rule for both segments.
I think the ISU wants to keep ice dancing fans as far away from depression as possible .And as a result they will surely lead us to depression
I found an article about the uplifting effect in art.
So if they use the term as it's used in this article,they really mean happy programs,that put a smile on our face.But how can they really dictate what makes a person feel good.For example,classical music is considered non uplifting ?Or will they make all teams dance to "Ode to Joy"?
They rewarded the Shibs for what I think they mean by it.
That "upifting" rule depresses the heck out of me, and the "understandable" rule escapes my comprehension
I am sure the issuing of communications is just a conspiracy with the timber industry to keep people printing more paper.
ITA! These rules may just put an end to my love of ice dance...
Stupid rules becuase they are so subjective. And if you are busy concentrating on judging, how can you pay attention to the audience being depressed or confused.
Could someone suggest to me which programs of the past might be considered not "understandable" and not "uplifting"?
I'd prefer last season's program for reference, but would be fine with older programs.
Perhaps they will be adding a psychologist to the technical panel.
I think anything that made me erect, morally or any other way should get bonus points. Ladies with too much nudity would not do this. Men on the other hand. Wait it's ice... shrinkage.
Asking Phil Hersh?
They will put voting machines at each seat in the audience , who will vote whether they understood the program or not. LMAO
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