2010 European Mens Medal Predikt (Post Nat's)

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by haribobo, Dec 29, 2010.

Who will medal?

  1. Brian Joubert

    78.4%
  2. Florent Amodio

    59.0%
  3. Alban Preaubert

    3.6%
  4. Konstantin Menshov

    6.5%
  5. Artur Gachinski

    5.8%
  6. Adrian Schultheiss

    2.9%
  7. Kristoffer Berntsson

    1.4%
  8. Tomas Verner

    84.2%
  9. Michal Brezina

    12.2%
  10. Kevin Van Der Perren

    4.3%
  11. Javier Fernandez

    5.0%
  12. Samuel Contesti

    3.6%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Ziggy

    Ziggy Well-Known Member

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    Attractive skating over attractive faces on the podium please.
     
  2. pinky166

    pinky166 Well-Known Member

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    Yes but the clincher is the skaters I listed are capable of BOTH! Yess :) Beautiful people skating beautifully, what could be better? :p
     
  3. Ziggy

    Ziggy Well-Known Member

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    Contesti has awful posture, awful lines and subpar basic skating. His programs can be entertaining at least, I guess.

    KVDP has awful basics, his programs are totally empty, he's quite slow, has poor ice coverage and isn't even making the slightest effort to present his programs. How his skating could be described as "beautiful," I will never understand.

    Kostner has beautiful skating skills I guess. :p

    Korpi... uhhmmm.... *tumbleweed* She's a skater that I find it extremely hard to say anything specific about, other than she's pretty. Her skating and her programs are always just so non-descript.

    The rest I can agree on.
     
  4. pinky166

    pinky166 Well-Known Member

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    KVDP's 4t-3t-3t and 3a-3t-3t combinations are beautiful! Kiira has beautiful stroking, edges, and basics and plus her good looks are so distracting you don't really notice the flaws of her skating. Contesti, yeah, he's not a beautiful skater, but he can be really entertaining which is almost as good! Plus some of his spins are beautiful!
     
  5. let`s talk

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    www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx3GnlX4TlY
    :respec:

    He looks pretty confident in those jumps, at least in practice. I think he should put all of them (4T, 4S, 4L) in SP and FS. He has nothing to lose anyway. Nobody knows if he will go to Euros or Worlds next season. Why not to try his chance now if the fate gave him this lucky opportunity.
     
  6. caseyedwards

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    The Russian federation could drop him so fast from the worlds spot that I think at Euros he should do exactly what he did at Russian nationals but for worlds there is a strong possibility he would never return again and there he should go for broke! Do the 4t4t combo and the quad loop and salchow. I mean I wouldn't want him to injure himself or anything but he might not get out of Russia again! It would depend on how Gachinksi is feeling at Euros. Gachinksi is seen as on a different level than Menhsov. Darn that one spot for worlds!
     
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    :D I seem to remember you said about the same thing (previous post too) in 2008... so please :cheer2: :lol:

    I still do not count on anything with Tomas. The signs so far are good, but we haven't had any big competitions yet...
     
  8. pinky166

    pinky166 Well-Known Member

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    Yes but hell froze over this season. I wouldn't be surprised to see Tomas, Alissa, and Carolina all medal at worlds :D
     
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    :cool:
    www.passion-patinage.com/IMG/jpg/Euros_14-2.jpg
     
  10. pinky166

    pinky166 Well-Known Member

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    That's what I'm talking about :). Contesti's unibrow has to go though, although he is still handsome with it. Speaking of Joubert, who is he training with now? I feel like he's been sort of on his own since the Olympics last year.
     
  11. SmallFairy

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    Menshov on the podium would be :kickass:

    Can't wait to see him, so happy he finally made it out of Russia!!!

    and btw Ziggy; every word you wrote about Contesti and VDP is so true, I don't have to repeat what I think of these skaters, you already said it all:yikes:
     
  12. Andrey aka Pushkin

    Andrey aka Pushkin Brezina's Nemesis

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    Ziggy makes sense :scream:

    Now I really can believe that hell has frozen and Verner got himself some consistency! :cheer2:

    But then again, with his gf, who needs anything else?
     
  13. let`s talk

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    He returned to his original and long-term coach Veronique Guyon, in May 2010.
     
  14. ninadel

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    his recent skates since gpf have been making me nervous! nationals were pretty sloppy and at the detroit exhibition this weekend he apparently popped some jumps. this + stadium issues = another verner performance i'll watch with my eyes half covered. but he has a good shot at a medal regardless.
     
  15. Finnice

    Finnice Well-Known Member

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    This season she has very good programs:p
     
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  16. VarBar

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    I'd like to see Verner or Joubert on top of the podium, they are the most polished skaters in the European field. But I'm well aware both of them can bomb.
     
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  17. pinky166

    pinky166 Well-Known Member

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    Well to be fair to Tomas, he was probably jetlag when he had to compete at nationals and the rink was also reportedly freezing, and further, his only competition there was an injured Brezina so he may not have been putting too much effort into his performances there, and even though he made mistakes, he didn't bomb.

    It sounds like everyone had jump problems at the Detroit show this weekend, although by everyone I mean Alissa and Jeremy in addition to Tomas, none of whom aren the most consistent to begin with, but also take into account that here is no 6 minute warmup before an exhibition, so I wouldn't take that too seriously.

    I am hopeful for Tomas and Brian because both have skated well this season and not had any major bombs, but at the same time clearly have room for improvements. I'm hoping this means they are on track to peak at Europeans and Worlds. The other thing is that where most of their competition is either injured (Brezina, Fernandez, Gatchinski) or weaker in PCS (Contesti, KVDP, Menshov) it looks like they could probably afford a couple of mistakes and still wind up on the podium. Amodio is probably their biggest threat at this point, but even he will likely have lower PCS than Brian and Tomas.
     
  18. pinky166

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp73OkJ0va4

    Tomas's FS from the DSC show/send off. The 3t and 2a may have been intentional considering he also attempted no combos, in which case the only true pop was the 2s. I'm not that concerned. His 3a is much improved and he rotated all those other jumps and this is just some unimportant show.
     
  19. VarBar

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    In fact I'm counting on that because I don't expect any of my two favorites for the gold to skate cleanly. LOL


    DSC show...first time I hear. Thanks for the video. No, I too wouldn't judge Verner's potential based on his DSC performance.
     
  20. ninadel

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    Ahh, just saw the video. Yeah that wasn't as bad as it sounded in the report. And it seems like a weird atmosphere.... sort of an exhibition but everyone skating their competitive programs?

    I wonder if he's in Detroit brushing up with Carmerlengo? For the record I'm not a fan of this collaboration so far and hope he goes back to Lori next year...
     
  21. yup, that's why. :)
     
  22. pinky166

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    I think his SP is awesome, but I agree the FS is a bit disjointed with all the music cuts. My fave SP of his was probably the Gypsy Swing one, and for the FS the Tango medley was a nice vehicle for him, and those were both choreographed by Lori. I'm glad he's trying something new though, I've enjoyed his FS this season simply because he's landing a lot of very nice triples in it :). Plus I feel like most of the European men don't have great programs this year, I like Joubert's SP but idk if the FS really suits him, Amodio's programs are entertaining but not very substantial, Brezina, Fernandez, and Contesti all kept their FS from last season and I didn't love any of those programs last season. The only time I really find KVDP's programs interesting is when he whips out a crazy difficult 3 jump combo.
     
  23. Seerek

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    Brian and Tomas both have anywhere from a 15-25 point components score buffer (combined Short Program and Free Skate) over everyone else except Florent, so I think those two are the shoe-ins.

    After Florent - placements could be anyone's guess from 4 all the way down to 16 (skaters like Liebers, Kovalevski, Pfeifer, and Bacchini)
     
  24. pinky166

    pinky166 Well-Known Member

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    Even over Florent they will likely have a buffer, smaller though, maybe like 5-10 points, and Florent has very nice jumps so I agree he will be the main challenger. Michal if he's back to his old form should get high PCS because he did so well at Worlds and got high PCS there, but judging from his recent competition results, he's still not totally back on track yet.
     
  25. let`s talk

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    What is Brian saying here? HELP!!!, French-speakers, please....
    Whose house is it (or it's an office?) in the second part of an interview, Brian's? It looks soooooo stylish! :respec:
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eNmujfika8

    Brian looks wonderful! :cheer2:
     
  26. IceIceBaby

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    That interview is from fall 2009 or early 2010. He was still very optimistic about the Olympics. That is his new house, yes it's stylish! I think an interior decorator helped him a bit;).
     
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  27. let`s talk

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    Thanks for letting me know. The video was put on youtube only a few days ago, I had no idea what they were saying.

    His house is cool!!! Very stylish and very French. He is a man of taste, indeed. Kind of a nice reminder for those who think he has a bad taste in music or whatever.

    Brian! :cheer2: For your future win in Euro!:summer:
     
  28. shan

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    So I picked 2 that I have a strong shot at the podium imo (Verner, Amodio) and 1 that I wanted to see get some votes and would love to see on the podium. (Schulteiss) :cheer2:
     
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